For a 30% cut of gamepass revenue through playstation and Nintendo? I'd say they'd be delighted to accept the free money.
As a Sony fan I hope this doesn't happen. In fact I'd love Sony to buy. Imagine a lord of the rings Trilogy made by Sony Santa Monica? That would be glorious.
Where did I say I was against it?Ill never understand that logic. I mean, I understand that you may not be interest on GP at all, but why to impose that to the whole community?
Im pretty sure that millons of playstation users would be more than interested to pay 10 bucks a month to get a 170+ full games library.
I'd love to play Halo and Forza with my PS only friends. And I can care less of exclusivity.
Where did I say I was against it?
Warner Bros (though not the gaming division) is actually the owner of DC though so retaining the license for a period would reasonably be part of any deal.
I'm pretty skeptical on this though, I can’t find a single credible source (in the business media) to corroborate any interest from Microsoft.
And tbh I actually think it’ll be tough for AT&T to get a deal done on this for the whole gaming division at all - the asking price is too high and the business is not particularly consistent or profitable overall.
Sony can continue Warframe for 3 more years. Game doesnt have to be support indefinitely. Most certainly not after 10 years. “Sony is hoping that it can edge out other bidders with greater certainty of financing,” Multiplayer gamers for already existing games is exactly what they need. Sucker Punch, Insomniac, Santa Monica, etc would be focused on single player. The multiplayer focus of these teams would certainly plug a gap in PlayStation’s portfolio. There’s alot of multiplayer talent in these studios. Any of these studios can do what Bluepoint does, if needed too.
Yeah I meant I hope MS don't buy WB. As for game pass on ps5 I'd be happy to see it. Personally can't ever see myself subbing to GP, PSNOW or EA access on ps5. A month at most.I think I completely misunderstood your message. I thought that when you said "As a Sony fan I hope this doesn't happen." you were referring to the case of GP on PS ecosystem.
All LEGO games would become MS proprieties, including Marvel/Disney ones... That’s actually very funny
I wouldn’t doubt if Sony made a move on Take Two as a response.
*sob* No One Lives Forever is entangled between WB and Disney. Activision I think. *sob*
if someone would actually want to make a new one, the issues with this IP would have been solved by now.
I think the reality is that until now, noone actually was in any way seriously interested in bringing it back.
Microsoft might be that one to finally revive it, but honestly... they already have an IP that's very similar (Perfect Dark) so I don't see this IP to ever really resurface... I just think noone thinks it would have a serious draw
Exactly. If warners parent company wants to make money back, selling a license to WB properties with the studio making the best games using those properties, is a damn fine idea. Not only that but Ms could offer them a deal for video content too.Spending $4 billion on the Warner studios without the IP's is a very bad deal for Microsoft or for any other company. Would be cheaper to start new studios and hire the talent from Warner.
Just like they were with EA.
Any company would be interested in buying another. Doesn't mean it will or can happen.
Good thing Xbox has more than 1 game
It absolutely can happen. WB Games is actually up for bidding. EA never was.
MS so far has the most purchasing power out of any of the companies that have shown interest.
$4 billion will help with tax write offs for MS. No big deal for them.
Please don't throw the "MS war chest" crap at me. You people think MS actually has unlimited spending money. Most of a corporations capital is not available to freely spend.
EA wasn't up for bidding but the rumor was MS wanted to buy them. Point is these things don't always come to fruition.
MS is not spending 4 billion on WB.
Playgrounds new Fable is going to be on PS?Which will all be available on PlayStation with the exception of stuff Like Halo that I don’t play so ... yea, still wouldn’t buy an Xbox for one game.
Under EA or Activision? No thanks.Hope they sell to one of the others.
Building up studios of the likes of a Rocksteady are highly unlikely. What are they going to do, pouch every key dev from Rocksteady? Studios like that take several years to build and develop culture.With out the DC IP, HP and Lego IP's its hardly worth $1 billion.
MS might as well open up their own studios and save money if they don't get the IP licenses for the games with them.
Microsoft literally has 172 billion rainy day money. If they want it, they could have it easily. Just a matter of if they want it.Since Microsoft seems to be all in on backing Xbox and Game Pass I can see this happening and Xbox easily out-bidding all comers if MS is willing to open it's massive war chest.
IMO, if they did buy WB, there is no way they would lock their games as XBOX Exclusives. There is too much money to be made by keeping everything multi-platform.
If anything it would be like what they did with Minecraft.
Coin toss on whether your right or wrong.
MS can absolutely spend $4 billion on WB just like they spent $2 billion on just Mine Craft.
Will they do it? No one outside of MS knows.
All the studios linked to the deal arent worth 4 billion. Not unless licenses come with the deal.I'm just saying based on the headline and the info we have so far, I don't think that conclusion can be made. Can they acquire the rights? Yes. But it would require far larger sums of money than just acquiring the studios and WB's willingness to limit their IPs to MS.
Youre trying a little too hard not to see the big picture here, bud. Microsoft absolutely has the money to do a deal like this. If they didnt, they wouldnt be part of the bidding brigade to begin with. They have $172 billion - just sitting on it. You ask me; $172 billion is pretty much unlimited spending money. You couldnt spend that much money in five life times.Please don't throw the "MS war chest" crap at me. You people think MS actually has unlimited spending money. Most of a corporations capital is not available to freely spend.
EA wasn't up for bidding but the rumor was MS wanted to buy them. Point is these things don't always come to fruition.
MS is not spending 4 billion on WB.
Playgrounds new Fable is going to be on PS?
Obsidians new AAA rpg is going to be on PS?
Hellblade2 is going to be on PS?
Forza is going to be on PS?
The Initiatives new game will be on PS?
Everwild is going to be on PS?
InXile's new AAA game is going to be PS?
The point i'm getting at is Xbox has a lot of studios and games announced and unannounced that will be released through out the entire generation beside Halo.
The thing that really annoys me is that people are saying 'oh yeah, EA and Activision are loaded...they could easily buy WB'
They actually only have about 5 billion each in cash on hand, this would nearly wipe out their cash, it would completely empty TakeTwo who only have 2.5
Yet there are people saying Sony would be tight to buy it..... yeah, okay.... they have nearly 31 Billion in cash on hand. For comparison, Amazon has 43 Billion.
Under EA or Activision? No thanks.
Well there are many considerations.... they could piss off EA, Activision or Take Two by buying WB from under them.Credit is dirt cheap, anyone can buy anything.
But for 1st parties like Sony and Microsoft the cost equation is completely different assuming they plan to make those those titles exclusive. Because if the question is can you afford to invest 4 billion, the answer is easily yes. But thats not the question facing Sony, the question facing Sony is can you afford to throw $2 billion in the trash? Since they have to pay for future revenue that won't exist. And you gotta be pretty loaded to be willing to throw away $2 billion.
Frankly, I don't even think Microsoft is rich/desperate enough to throw away $2 billion.
All LEGO games would become MS proprieties, including Marvel/Disney ones... That’s actually very funny
I wouldn’t doubt if Sony made a move on Take Two as a response.
They’d get a few IPs from midway (Like gauntlet) and whatever WB created. The deal when first Rumoured also includes a Multi year licensing deal for WB IP which is also itself worth money. Most of the studios aren’t that interesting. But if their strategy is to have a studio or two in every major region this would be a way to do it quickly. But the studios aren’t that great so it’s a risky investment.There is no value in getting Warner Bros for Microsoft. NetherRealm is the only studio of any value.
It is actually a great deal, even without the IPs. You get a ton of great studios and gamepass instantly becomes the Netflix of gaming, just like that. And no it wouldn’t be cheaper to start 10-12 studios and «hire the talent», the WB studios are already set and ready to develop games. This acquisition is perfect for MS’ plans.Spending $4 billion on the Warner studios without the IP's is a very bad deal for Microsoft or for any other company. Would be cheaper to start new studios and hire the talent from Warner.
The 100 million PlayStation users, which are actually less because we are talking about exclusive PlayStation users (PlayStation users without a pc or an Xbox) is a drop in the ocean compared to the audience MS is aiming at and they would lose very little without these users. Oh and there aren’t 16 studios like Insomniac independent right now anyway, nevermind that I am sure that MS will cut a deal with WB for some valuable IPs as will any potential buyer.I just cant see it happening.
For starters, the value of the company comes from the sales the games get on all platforms. If it becomes exclusive to MS they loose an install base of 100 million PS4 players. Instantly the company has been devalued to 3 Billion from 4 billion.
At at 4 billion, there is way better options.
Sony paid 250 million for Insomniac.
So MS could by 16 studios of Insomniacs quality for the same money.
Imagine the studios they could get in that bundle.
Maybe MS is in the box because a company like Amazon or Google are bidding and MS cant let them get a foothold like that.
Spending $4 billion on the Warner studios without the IP's is a very bad deal for Microsoft or for any other company. Would be cheaper to start new studios and hire the talent from Warner.
Join the Green Side! DC/Batman as MS exclusives would be glorious.
The thing that really annoys me is that people are saying 'oh yeah, EA and Activision are loaded...they could easily buy WB'
They actually only have about 5 billion each in cash on hand, this would nearly wipe out their cash, it would completely empty TakeTwo who only have 2.5
Yet there are people saying Sony would be tight to buy it..... yeah, okay.... they have nearly 31 Billion in cash on hand. For comparison, Amazon has 43 Billion.
It is actually a great deal, even without the IPs. You get a ton of great studios and gamepass instantly becomes the Netflix of gaming, just like that. And no it wouldn’t be cheaper to start 10-12 studios and «hire the talent», the WB studios are already set and ready to develop games. This acquisition is perfect for MS’ plans.
Rare made multi-million selling games after MS bought them, whether it is the Kinect games or SoT. Talent «comes and goes» in every studio (just look how many people from Sony Santa Monica have gone to the initiative) but buying so many studios with ready infrastructures and ready to develop games is a big boost for a company that wants to create the netflix of gaming. Going by that logic why pay 300 million for a studio whose only big success was a licensed game ? (Insomniac)I completely disagree with you. A studio without the IP's isn't worth much. Let's say Microsoft pays $4 billion for Warner studios and the talent decides to leave after that (It's happened before when Microsoft purchased Rare)... Microsoft would keep the studios without the talent, without the IP's, and a $4 billion bill to pay... Is it worth it? In my opinion, absolutely NOT.
Talent comes and goes... but the IP's stay.
A few years ago Microsoft purchased Mojang Studios for $2.5 billion because of the Minecraft IP, not because of the talent in the studio.