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MTA unveils new train designs aimed to fix NYC subway crowding
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Nemesis121
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$3.00, then $3.25 rides incoming soon, somebody's gotta pay for this shit..
JadedWriter
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They'll probably buy like 200 new trains, put them all on the red, green and blue lines, renovate a couple of the tourist stations and call it a day and will finish some time in 2030.
backflip10019
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To debut in 2045.
Seriously, though, just seeing how long it's taken them to build out the 2nd Ave subway, we'll be long dead before we see this implemented. And still paying for it somehow despite the MTA's billion dollar budget surpluses several years ago.
Fuck the MTA.
Seriously, though, just seeing how long it's taken them to build out the 2nd Ave subway, we'll be long dead before we see this implemented. And still paying for it somehow despite the MTA's billion dollar budget surpluses several years ago.
Fuck the MTA.
NyMartin90
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How many times are they going to have to repair usb ports on the trains or in the stations that will be vandalized?
backflip10019
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Also maybe instead of this shit, they can oh I don't know, fix the fucking subway cars they do have so there are no fucking hot cars when it's 95+ degrees outside? Every other day this summer, I get stuck in a hot car and feel like I am going to die. How is this not illegal?
Fuck the MTA.
Fuck the MTA.
entremet
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Eh. I don't think it will be that bad. NYC is kinda tame these days.
It's not the 80s.
Air conditioning in public transit is incredibly expensive and adds a lot of points of failure.
backflip10019
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It's the least they can possibly do to make you feel like humans and not cattle when you're rammed into trains with 3,000 other sweating people just trying to breathe.
Also we're paying $2.75 per subway ride. The subway was 50 cents cheaper per ride when I started working just 6 years ago. They can inflate prices by 20% and lay out ridiculous plans to overhaul the entire system, but not continue to keep up with repairs?
Pretty much. I don't have faith in the MTA to implement all of this, let alone finish by their target date.
entremet
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More people standing up is more efficient space wise. Seats take up tons of space.
Not to mention, why would you be in a subway station so long you're able to charge your devices in the fucking first place!?
The subway isn't somewhere I want to hang around and relax in - get me the fuck out ASAP and I'll be happy.
UnluckyKate
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so besides USB, like every subway in the world ?
JadedWriter
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You want a subway that doesn't smell like urine, shit and old feet then go to a different state.
Nemesis121
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Riders are supposed to report this to the conductor, then he/she will contact dispatch a decision will be made to take the entire train out of service, because the car isn't breathing fresh air, which is harmful to you..but most of the time consumers keep their mouths shut because it's rush hour and they wanna get home..
backflip10019
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Some stations have countdown clocks, but most still do not, despite it being years after them announcing they would come.
How are you supposed to be able to do this when platforms are crowded and you have ~10 seconds to get to a conductor in the middle of a train? Shouldn't these people be walking through the trains before getting on them to ensure they're functioning properly?
Why is this the passengers' problem?
It doesn't matter how much the spend on new trains and renovations if you can't apply this.
I'm not familiar with the nyc subways. Is the issue that not enough repairs are done or do the trains have to be retrofitted with AC?
The new trains are probably paid through another budget. At least that's how it works in Germany. Stupid but that's how it is
Not Looking forward to that fair increase tho
Have more kinetic energy and go through those people.
Gotta pay those pensions.
The Elite
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It's remarkable how the whole system, every station, smells like urine. It's consistent.
backflip10019
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They're all fitted with A/C units -- some are just broken because why not? And these are CROWDED cars with CROWDED platforms.
Situations like this aren't uncommon:
Pandora012
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Please let there be one in the Bronx!!!! It needs a renovation so bad.
That's terrible. It seems like an issue with space inside the stations and inside the trains.
The AC thing. Sure it sucks to be stuck in a crowded train with no AC, but it really is a question of cost. Still, a city like NY should be able to afford decent public transit options.
Permanently A
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USB ports and WiFi on cars in my lifetime? yes please!
They're all fitted with A/C units -- some are just broken because why not? And these are CROWDED cars with CROWDED platforms.
Situations like this aren't uncommon:
Fucking Union Square...
qa_engineer
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I take the 6 train ( one of the most crowded trains in NYC) back and forth from the UES to Canal Street every day for work and some days its great, but most days it a shit show. The trains aren't always the problem, more often than not it's people who make train rides painful.
Most people I see who get on trains stand near the door and completely ignore the extra standing space in the middle of the train. Either they don't understand the concept of public transportation or feel entitled to their own space and don't feel the need to make space for others. This then causes what appears to be overcrowding, when in actuality its just people being dumb.
I've learned to find nooks and crannies in the train where I am not blocking anyone and can chill out during my commute. The best place to be is the door connecting other train cars IMO.
P.S. Always make room for others.
Most people I see who get on trains stand near the door and completely ignore the extra standing space in the middle of the train. Either they don't understand the concept of public transportation or feel entitled to their own space and don't feel the need to make space for others. This then causes what appears to be overcrowding, when in actuality its just people being dumb.
I've learned to find nooks and crannies in the train where I am not blocking anyone and can chill out during my commute. The best place to be is the door connecting other train cars IMO.
P.S. Always make room for others.
Slayer-33
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Went to HS over there lol... Yep, just like I remembered.
I appreciate the effort going into improving public transport, to say the least.
People here complaining about how only stations in Manhattan are getting renovated, but both the subway lines near where I live in Brooklyn (F and N lines) are seeing year-long renovations for a lot of the stations in Brooklyn.
I also didn't think they would think about removing the prison bar divisions and replacing them with glass dividers lol
It's a huge system and it's going to take a lot of time to work on everything. Moreover, I think MTA deserves a bit more credit. They were far more prepared for Sandy than our neighbors the NJ Transit were.
They're still working on replacing some of the old cars with like the new car designs they commissioned since the early 2000s, but I'm guessing those designs from the early 2000s are easier to modify than cars dating back further.
People here complaining about how only stations in Manhattan are getting renovated, but both the subway lines near where I live in Brooklyn (F and N lines) are seeing year-long renovations for a lot of the stations in Brooklyn.
I also didn't think they would think about removing the prison bar divisions and replacing them with glass dividers lol
It's a huge system and it's going to take a lot of time to work on everything. Moreover, I think MTA deserves a bit more credit. They were far more prepared for Sandy than our neighbors the NJ Transit were.
They're still working on replacing some of the old cars with like the new car designs they commissioned since the early 2000s, but I'm guessing those designs from the early 2000s are easier to modify than cars dating back further.
I was just about to say, NYC subways do not ever look clean.
Royal_Phalanx
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London Underground got some new trains on the District line lately. A great improvement, and I see this design principle is similar.
MikeHattsu
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