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MTA unveils new train designs aimed to fix NYC subway crowding
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It might. For like a week, maybe.
VistraNorrez
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Part of the problem is because of how the subway system was developed. It has to do with there being 3 different companies that developed the lines and the way signaling was handled. The numbered lines are all up an running. The lettered ones are slowly being upgraded.
The 1 train stop at South Ferry actually looked really nice until it got wrecked in Sandy. The old stop they're using instead is as grody as it gets.
p_xavier
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They look nice?! That's horrible design. Here is what we have in Montréal:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62kFK_kKMlk
If they directly copy European cities (which it seems they are) it will look just like that. Whether it will stay clean is something else.
You have 68 stations. NYC has 469. The concept shown in the "Technology Integration" pic looks like the kind of station we have for the less big stations, and it is a step up.
Dr_LucienSanchez
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Nope, and it's incredibly frustrating that countdown clocks haven't come to all the stops yet. Would alleviate so many problems.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. And certainly makes sense.
Those days where they put the old train in service with the ceiling fans and open windows, the train is much cooler. Miss being able to pop open a window on the subway. Same for the Bus actually, at least my bus line.
DarkChronic
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I ride the NQR line to and from Penn Station for work and have never had a car without AC. I think I'm just lucky as that's a fairly major line. It's not terribly crowded, either. Around 42nd street (Times Square) it can get bad, but it's usually breathable. The platforms are generally worse than the actual cars themselves.
Is it really? It seems to be expected on modern trains. If buses have AC units, a modern subway train can have it, right?
Skellig Gra
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my thoughts exactly
I've spent plenty of time waiting for my train to show up, especially late night in Brooklyn.
That's basically a cleaner version of what we already have in a lot of the bigger places, outside of the cars. The big stations are generally fine, the smaller ones need an overhaul.
John Rabbit
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They're all fitted with A/C units -- some are just broken because why not? And these are CROWDED cars with CROWDED platforms.
Situations like this aren't uncommon:
This is stressing me out just looking at it.
Kind of insane how far behind NYC subway system seems to be from other similarly large metropolitan areas. Aside from USB almost every train and major station in Tokyo had the features described in the OP in some form or another.
Mammoth Jones
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Doesn't matter. In 1 hour the train will be covered in piss and someone will be masturbating in it....
A/C will break a week later.
A/C will break a week later.
SomedayTheFire
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It's like that in pretty much every busy train/subway system the world over.
layzie1989
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How did they not include installing gates to block the track at every station? It eliminates the largest hazard of the subway.
Edit: also, nobody should ever plug their device into a public USB port. Ever.
Edit: also, nobody should ever plug their device into a public USB port. Ever.
andythinkpad
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Look exactly like the current one.
Why can't MTA put outter doors in the platform so people won't throw garbage or themselves on to the track?
Why can't MTA put outter doors in the platform so people won't throw garbage or themselves on to the track?
NYC's system is very very old and very very large (even compared to Tokyo, at least for the subway). It's also very much a mixed bag. For every train that looks like this:
there's another one that looks like this:
And these are not the only types of trains in service. Some look much much shittier than that first pic. Some look much nicer and more modern than the second pic.
victreeb3l
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$200 monthly Unlimited cards here we come
Now the showtimers will have extra room to dance
You didn't post pics of some of the C & J line trains that were originally used to haul supplies during the Civil War.
Gordon Shumway
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darkhunger
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The NYC Subway is also 24/7 unlike the Tokyo Metro. Which limits the time they can work on improving the system.NYC's system is very very old and very very large (even compared to Tokyo, at least for the subway). It's also very much a mixed bag. For every train that looks like this:
there's another one that looks like this:
And these are not the only types of trains in service. Some look much much shittier than that first pic. Some look much nicer and more modern than the second pic.
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The R line????
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univariate
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I got a hearty laugh out of this. Thanks.
spindashing
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I can't even laugh because this is too true.
Floor to ceiling outer doors could also allow for A/C in stations eventually too. This is a very important and necessary upgrade, and is probably the biggest disappointment of this plan. Ideally it could be rolled out with phasing in the newer trains on certain lines (L comes to mind, particularly during its shutdown in 2019).
Orbis Tabula
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Hahahahahahahahahaha, fuck. Something about this post just absolutely killed me.
It's a small hazard and the car doors do not uniformly line up across a divisions fleet.
frankie_baby
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NYC's system is very very old and very very large (even compared to Tokyo, at least for the subway). It's also very much a mixed bag. For every train that looks like this:
there's another one that looks like this:
And these are not the only types of trains in service. Some look much much shittier than that first pic. Some look much nicer and more modern than the second pic.
The first one looks better to me
gamechanger87
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How in the hell are you supposed to get away from a ripe hobo if the cars are all connected?
Seriously, the most dangerous thing in NYC is an empty subway car during rush hour.
Seriously, the most dangerous thing in NYC is an empty subway car during rush hour.
Pandora012
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It looks nice when it's clean....Damn some of those D/B trains are horrid.
slightconfuse
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Can't wait for the price increase
Mammoth Jones
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Holy shit what? At least the MTA is stepping the game up.
Blessed Prague metro. Damn.
Those red poles and that lighting? Ugh, no thanks.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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cant wait for the sequel of The Taking of Pelham 123
God Dayumm
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The only thing I ever ask of public transport is no cushioned seats, because those things soak up ass juices bad. So this looks good
Holy shit what? At least the MTA is stepping the game up.
Blessed Prague metro. Damn.
if hell had a subway it would look like this
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Holy shit what? At least the MTA is stepping the game up.
Blessed Prague metro. Damn.
The lighting/colour would give me migraines.
They're supposed to but haven't you noticed how people just gravitate to certain spots on the train instead of spreading out? Everyone moves to where they want to get off and on the TTC there are only a few spots at each station that happens. It still ends up being a shit show with crowds that are difficult to get through.
Never been to London, but the Paris metro was very easy to navigate and clean. NYC, America's gold standard, is far behind Europe. I can only imagine how the subways are in Hong Kong and Tokyo.
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