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[FF:Enhanced_Reality]

Jim Ryan. "Neil, could you do me a favour..."

 

[SlimySnake]

TLOU remake?

Remake was started in 2018 by VSG studios. ND took over in 2020, but they didnt change much aside from graphics so i highly doubt anyone other than the artists were involved. Same engine, same gameplay, same cutscenes and mocap.

 

[Flabagast]

Since they are specifically addressing the letter to Last of Us fans, does it imply that the new single player project will be Last of Us AGAIN ?

Man, we are never getting a new IP

 

[StueyDuck]

100% after tv show success is becoming tlou p3...that's my bet

 

[DonJorginho]

It's actually been in development since 2018, so 5 years. lolololol

5 years on a fucking LIVE SERVICE title....

I hope people realise we're only getting 2 actually new ND titles this generation at a push.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

ugh.......well guess we wont see this game for another year or so..

 

[VulcanRaven]

I wonder if it will be free to play or a full price title? I hope we can disable all the immersion breaking colorful guns that it will probably have.

 

[MirageMew2]

They’re dragging ass at this point. 6 years of dev time for Part 2 and now 3 years since launch. For a game that was originally the multiplayer of a PS4 game! And no doubt it’ll be free-to-play live-service, this definitely needs to be a home run but I need to see more by now.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's actually been in development since 2018, so 5 years. lolololol

They also paused development for some time when all hands were needed on deck for getting Part 2 out there door. Probably redesigned a lot of the game from a standard mode the first Factions was as well. Since that won't fly in current year.

 

[elcapitano]

ND is a far larger studio I believe? I may be wrong though.

Either way it's a poor output.

Quality over quantity imo and Naughty Dogs quality is great on PS.

We know they have minimum two games in the works so depending when they come that ain't so bad. Let's wait and see I guess.

 

[Fake]

The sad part is that I am 100% expecting it at this point, lol.

I would say is madness too, but again people get called crazy around the rumors of the remake of TLOUS.

And lets not forget that rumor about Sony making the remake of Horizon Zero Dawn for PS5.


What a fucking waste of money.

 

[Luipadre]

5 years on a fucking LIVE SERVICE title....

I hope people realise we're only getting 2 actually new ND titles this generation at a push.

yeah this will be a late 2024 title and their SP is probably 2026... modern AAA industry is shit

 

[Luigi Mario]

I constantly see certain members on here praising The Last of Us 2 and how smart it was to spinoff Factions as it's own thing, when in reality it probably destroyed the core of the studio, remember 70% turnover rate during TLoU2 development, and Factions is apparently in development hell or outright canceled now.

 

[Nautilus]

 

[MALpractice311]

5 years on a fucking LIVE SERVICE title....

I hope people realise we're only getting 2 actually new ND titles this generation at a push.

Yup! This is exactly why I roll my eyes at people who think GAAS games don't detract from the development of single player games. GAAS require a ton money, people, and resources and most of them bomb afterwards.

 

[Hugare]

Let them cook

But seriously, at least a small cutscene or vertical slice in Outbreak Day, ND. C'mon now.

Factions being in development hell doesnt surprise me.

Development beginning 3 years after shipping TLOU2 does. What were they doing the last three years? Herman? Hello?

Who told you that they've just started developing it?

It's been (supposedly) in development even before TLOU's launch

what hurts the most is that so much time and effort is being put not even into a traditional bombastic single player experience that ND are best at

their resources are being poured into a fucking live service game, i hate the new era of PlayStation

ND always had the A and B teams working on their own projects at the same time: TLOU while making U3, TLOU 2 while making U4, now this while working on TLOU 2 and new SP game while working on this.

Rest easy, as soon as they finish this they will have all hands on deck for the next SP game

 

[DonJorginho]

Quality over quantity imo and Naughty Dogs quality is great on PS.

We know they have minimum two games in the works so depending when they come that ain't so bad. Let's wait and see I guess.

we're gonna be old and grey by the time they come out

 

[March Climber]

I deadass would've taken a CG trailer over this crap

 

[Heisenberg007]

This MP project is definitely in development hell, it's been in the works since pre TLOU2.

Late 2024 at best imo.

It started production after shipping TLOU 2 in 2020, as officially confirmed by Naughty Dog. So it has been less than 3 years.

 

[near]

They also paused development for some time when all hands were needed on deck for getting Part 2 out there door. Probably redesigned a lot of the game from a standard mode the first Factions was as well. Since that won't fly in current year.

Is that confirmed tho? Because I recall Druckmann stating the following year sometime in 2019 that they would be focusing on the single player mode, and would continue developing the multiplayer mode separately.

 

[ChiefDada]

Factions being in development hell doesnt surprise me. is a claim that I pulled straight out of my ass.

 

[DonJorginho]

It started production after shipping TLOU 2 in 2020, as officially confirmed by Naughty Dog. So it has been less than 3 years.

It carried over the work from development of TLOU 2, so definitely longer than 3 years all in all, active work on it solely just began after shipping TLOU 2.

 

[SlimySnake]

It's actually been in development since 2018, so 5 years. lolololol

I was talking about their SP game, but yeah factions was already in development when they announced it in 2019.

I think Neil making the tv show fucked up their plans for their next game. The factions team was already separate. Some of the TLOU2 guys went on to make the remake but i highly doubt the majority of writers, level desginers and engineers did anything with that game. They probably all just waited for Neil to finish his tv show and that likely cost the SP team 3 years.

People dont realize this but ND is a very efficient studio almost on par with fromsoft and insomniac. They released Uncharted 4 three years after TLOU. Lost legacy 14 months after U4, and TLOU2 less than 3 years after Lost Legacy. 3 years is what they take to put out AAA games. And here we are three years later, and we didnt even get a sneakpeak from them.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Well, if it takes time, it takes time. This is their 1st attempt at this, so it's all good. Just make it the best you can.

I'm just incredibly happy about the new single-player IP announcement! First new IP by Naughty Dog after 10 years.

 

[feynoob]

S snitch losing his credibility.

 

[Bernoulli]

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[Crispy Gamer]

After recovering from that awful press conference this week I'm back in shambles

 

[DonJorginho]

Defense Force ASSEMBLE

 

[Heisenberg007]

It carried over the work from development of TLOU 2, so definitely longer than 3 years all in all, active work on it solely just began after shipping TLOU 2.

It'll be using TLOU 2 assets for sure, but the entire studio was crunching to ship TLOU 2. TLOU Online was not in any level of production until they had shipped TLOU 2 in June 2020.

Full production started after June 2020, so it has been less than 3 years. Which is completely fine for a full-scaled project.

 

[Darsxx82]

No Factions in Summer Games Fest then.

New SP project? It sounds like a game to me that it will be released with a PS6 version.

 

[Flabagast]

The concept of a « double » team is 90% of the time pure bullshit to appease the fans. It mostly means that the preproduction of the next title is in parallel of the main development with the full bulk of the team on the current one.

Don’t expect their next SP game before end 2026 at the earliest, unless you wanna desillusion yourself of course

 

[CortexVortex]

Take all the time you need, Dogs.

I’m curious if it’s gonna be a new single player IP or TLOU3

 

[Chronicle]

There doi g as I said they would in another thread. SONY studios will take this week to update and inform us on projects. They'll come.

 

[Draugoth]

 

[Ronin_7]

So it's in development hell, OK.

Hopefully that single player title is at least NOT beginning development.

It's been in development for years, those are different teams.

 

[TGO]

Naughty Dog needs to hand in their Playstation Studio's Flagship badge to Insomniac Games.
That studio is single handedly supporting the PS5 this generation.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is that confirmed tho? Because I recall Druckmann stating the following year sometime in 2019 that they would be focusing on the single player mode, and would continue developing the multiplayer mode separately.

Which reads to me like skeleton crew on multiplayer or redesign phase. The focus was on single player.

 

[Heisenberg007]

The concept of a « double » team is 90% of the time pure bullshit to appease the fans. It mostly means that the preproduction of the next title is in parallel of the main development with the full bulk of the team on the current one.

Don’t expect their next SP game before end 2026 at the earliest, unless you wanna desillusion yourself of course

If they release the new game in 2026, it'd be fucking amazing.

TLOU 2 in 2020.
TLOU Remake in 2022.
TLOU Online in 2024*
New IP in 2026

That's an excellent cadence.

P.S. They are also co-developing Uncharted with a new PlayStation Studios team.

 

[Ronin_7]

Factions 2024, new sp experience in 2029.

I'm going with 2024 & late 2025.

 

[adamsapple]

The dreaded twitter solid-color-background apology template strikes again.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The dreaded twitter solid-color-background apology template strikes again.

It's so hollow at this point. Just put it in the game when it ships like Redfall.

 

[MiguelItUp]

I honestly figured we'd see SOMETHING at SGF, but I guess not? Lol.

 

[abacab driver]

This mode was axed 9 months out from the launch of TLOU2.

They finessed everyone by saying they got "inspired" to make the multi-player bigger/better, etc.

This was, and is, in serious development hell.

Best of luck to the team.

 

[Represent.]

Another reason why Insomniac >>> Naughty Dog.

(not saying ND are bad before anyone gets butthurt, but their output since Uncharted 3 has been awful in terms of gaps between releases.)

???

2011: UC3
2013: The Last of Us
2016: Uncharted 4
2017: Uncharted Lost Legacy
2020: The Last of Us: Part II
2024: Factions 2
2025: Probably new SP game

not to mention a bunch or ports and remasters/remakes in between those years.

This is Arguably the most consistent release schedule of the last decade. Too 5 undoubtedly.

All quality. And All of those games are larger (minus lost legacy) and of higher quality than anything Insomniac has ever made.

You should be giving SSM the smoke.

 

[Sleepwalker]

5 years on a fucking LIVE SERVICE title....

I hope people realise we're only getting 2 actually new ND titles this generation at a push.

We are getting 1, factions.

The next one will be cross gen with the PS6, they are going the Rockstar way.

 

[Bartski]

 

[Draugoth]

This mode was axed 9 months out from the launch of TLOU2.

They finessed everyone by saying they got "inspired" to make the multi-player bigger/better, etc.

This was, and is, in serious development hell.

Best of luck to the team.

I would be taking my sweet time if it meant not releasing shit like Redfall and Babylon's Fall anyway

 

[Ronin_7]

Yup! This is exactly why I roll my eyes at people who think GAAS games don't detract from the development of single player games. GAAS require a ton money, people, and resources and most of them bomb afterwards.

Who said they didn't? Many Devs that are assigned to the multiplayer project could be working on the SPs projects.

It's not rocket science.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Phil Spencer this week must be sat there with a few bottles of red wine, like......

"Jim,...welcome to the gang...."