balls of snow
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Bethesda doing what Star Citizen cant.
Actually releasing.
Actually releasing.
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New Starfield Leaks From Verified BSG Artist (Verified by J. Schrier) - Shooting Good, Flying Bad, Overabundance of Content & More
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Craig of War
Banned
Yes he works at Bethesda verified by Jason it looks like he broke NDA and delete his account and all his post are gone
So my guess is Bethesda is on his ass
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It's "verified" by a guy who got blacklisted by Bethesda. And from the sound of what he said, he only verified that the dev at some point worked at Bethesda, not what the dev actually said. I'd take it with a huge grain of salt.
anthony2690
Banned
Was he not there long or something? As he claimed to be an indie Dev in the past year, and I'm not sure I'd consider Bethesda as an indie Dev studio XD
Don't care about visuals. Use the new horsepower on physics, AI, simulation and object persistence. Interesting ways to interact with the world.
I don't expect something groundbreaking, but people really need to stop shitting on their tech (Tech choice don't make buggy games, design does) and try to read up on how 'possibility spaces' work.
Using multiple open-ended systems that interact with each other (which Bethesda usually has) can create a lot of unpredictable errors (bugs), but having that kind of input freedom and interactivity still is rather unique. Making a lot of stuff physicalized and persistent in the world is still quite impressive, even though it eats up CPU cycles and memory bandwidth.
I don't expect something groundbreaking, but people really need to stop shitting on their tech (Tech choice don't make buggy games, design does) and try to read up on how 'possibility spaces' work.
Using multiple open-ended systems that interact with each other (which Bethesda usually has) can create a lot of unpredictable errors (bugs), but having that kind of input freedom and interactivity still is rather unique. Making a lot of stuff physicalized and persistent in the world is still quite impressive, even though it eats up CPU cycles and memory bandwidth.
Craig of War
Banned
He said he was done working at Bethesda like a week ago
said he work on Starfield so it seem they are finish with the game
and are now doing final bugs fix and test
He decide to tell people this maybe he thinks that by him finish work on the game
that he can talk about but it turns out he broke his NDA with Bethesda
so that probably why he delete everything in fear of being sued
Lol, that's why they've switched to Unreal obviously.
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Craig of War
Banned
It real no grain of salt needed the guy broke his NDA and delete everything he is a Dev at Bethesda he finish work there already
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Lol love the blacklisting excuses like it means anything
Mephisto40
Member
If you are expecting this game to be anywhere near the scope of Star Citizen you are going to be utterly and / or bitterly dissapointed
Bernd Lauert
Banned
No need for excuses, it's not like the dev said anything super bad about the game. It actually sounded rather positive.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Yeah I agree. There's not even much to take from this anyway besides there being manual flying
I didn't think the engine being shit was revolutionary information either.
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Orbital2060
Member
So did he get fired from Bethesda and went online with this after? Whats the context here
And comparing to HFW is straight up console warring, and a poor point of comparison.
And comparing to HFW is straight up console warring, and a poor point of comparison.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Shooting is alright means shooting is good
Craig of War
Banned
"Question: How was your time there? Is Todd as charismatic as he looks in his interview? And I gotta ask, how's Starfield looking?, do you think it will hit the release date?
Answer: It was cool solid place to work, very secure. The engine is a piece of crap tho. Todd is a charismatic guy for sure. Starfield is looking good, weekly Thursday playtest since the beginning of the year, more and more stuff coming online. Shooting feels alright, flying is terrible atm imo just not fun to me. Lighting and stuff is looking better and better, tho it's not on the level of HFW or anything like that but still a good looking game. In terms of if it will ship on time, well they will try that's for sure, they'll cut what they did to etc, they have an overabundance of content, probably too much, so that's not the issue, finding the fun and of course bug fixing is the big thing. It's a sexy date tho and you only get one of those, beta is this summer, that's when the picture will truly become clear.
Question: Given NDA's and all that, Ill hold my breath on the truthfulness of the statement.
Answer: I'm not under NDA, i don't work there anymore. How can you have a space game without flying ships, if a mod wants to verify this info, i think i still have vids of playthroughs.
Question: How terrible is flying? Should we be worried about it impacting the final product?
Answer: Again, that's to me, you may love it. So it's hard to say, i'm really interested in knowing what some of you guys will think about the game in general. very very curious."
That is a part of what he said the rest seem to be gone when he delete everything cause he thought he was no longer under NDA
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Who actually thought it would look as good as horizon? I can probably only name 3 or 4 games that I personally think look close to as good as horizon and none of them are close to the scale or jank of a Bethesda game lol.
As long as its serviceable and offers me gameplay and RPG elements that I expect from them I don't care too much how it looks. I'd rather play Elden Ring every day of my life than play horizon but that's just me burning out on that kind of open world game.
As long as its serviceable and offers me gameplay and RPG elements that I expect from them I don't care too much how it looks. I'd rather play Elden Ring every day of my life than play horizon but that's just me burning out on that kind of open world game.
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digoutyoursoul
Member
Will likely be one of the most nitpicked games in a long time. Trolls will be very excited.
Orbital2060
Member
Somethings off about this guy, you dont go online with this kind of stuff unless there is a reason. Maybe they didnt like his art and hes salty. Not knowing if youre under NDA or not is just unprofessional.
Why is he comparing the game against horizon? Graphics are all that game has. Bethesda games are all about world building, lore, interaction with the world, inmersión, emering gameplay and stories and most of all modding capabilities on PC.
You can't mod horizon or other Ubisoftian games to be good. I'd hate if Bethesda also fell on the Ubisoft open world game design trap...
You can't mod horizon or other Ubisoftian games to be good. I'd hate if Bethesda also fell on the Ubisoft open world game design trap...
Craig of War
Banned
I don't know maybe he truly did not know that he broke NDA
but anyways i found couple more screenshots people took before he delete everything
That all i could find can't find anything else lol
Hezekiah
Banned
I think he has overblown the whole next gen/cross gen thing. Certainly when it comes to visuals.
Horizon Forbidden West is cross gen, but visually it sounds like it might be better looking than Starfield anyway.
Other things need to considered anyway, particularly A.I., and also physics.
Mephisto40
Member
I'd hate it if Guerrilla Games fell into the Bethesda "It just works" trap as well
It's amazing how quick people are to forget what a disaster Fallout 76 was, and this game is based off the same technology
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BigbyTheSheriff
Member
I am actually glad it's still on Creation Engine. As difficult and buggy it may be, it's probably one of the most mod-friendly and interactive engines out there.
You have all these other games with fancy graphics, but only few allow you to throw chairs at people and put pots on their heads.
You have all these other games with fancy graphics, but only few allow you to throw chairs at people and put pots on their heads.
Laptop1991
Member
i'm not bothered if it's still the creation engine, as i know the modders will fix it and improve the game as well at some point, as they always have, if it was a new engine then it might be a lot worse as there will be bugs lol.
I'm looking forward to the game, i'd like to see a trailer soon then my hype will go up a lot more.
I'm looking forward to the game, i'd like to see a trailer soon then my hype will go up a lot more.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
A little smoke.
Johnny Concrete
Member
Probably not a public beta, it's just the phase the project is in.
Mister Wolf
Member
Would like the shooting to be at least on par with Borderlands.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I think the quote speaks well of the game, color me more optimistic not lessThis is the artist's post. The post and the artist's account have since been deleted from Era so you can't find it anymore.
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And here's Jason verifying that at least the person is who they said they are, while also debunking some other recent leaks.
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Context and archived quotes from Era before they got deleted:
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
I guess a beta is a good idea for a Bethesda single player game. Maybe they'll actually fix some bugs. Hadn't thought about that.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Could just be a private invite-only beta like most games have.
I don't recall Bethesda games having public betas/released demos before release.
Spaceman292
Banned
Just a bullshit leaker either lying or telling everyone stuff they already know. The usual.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Other than Fallou 76, that I never even bothered trying since I'm not a fan of MP focused games, I absolutely loved Fallout 3, 4 and Skyrim. This is pretty much their next AAA single player game since Fallout 4... so I'm obviously excited. Actually, I can't understand why so many people are so negative about it. If I had to guess, it's because Bethesda is now a MS studio. But maybe I'm wrong... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just wish we had some gameplay already. But apparently it is already confirmed for June.
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Kilau
Member
Oh how predictable, it must be console wars and not their track record of over promising and releasing buggy, broken unfinished games.
Maybe they’ll get this one right but I’ll try it on PC gamepass rather than my series X so I can have console commands to fix things.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Yeah... I think it's more likely console wars rather than doubting that the creators of such popular games like Fallout and TES, which sold a fucking ton and were extremely well received by the critics, aren't capable of making a new good game. But again, maybe this possibly false impression is just in my head.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
You leave a spoon in a town in Skyrim. Return there 100 hrs later and it will still be there.
There are other countless things that creation engine does which few other games can match.
They have a special feel to their game. Maybe some other game made in generic engine and generic feel would be up to your taste?
Kilau
Member
Well console warriors view everything through that lens and are incapable of objectivity. At least you can admit it about yourself.Yeah... I think it's more likely console wars rather than doubting that the creators of such popular games like Fallout and TES, which sold a fucking ton and were extremely well received by the critics, aren't capable of making a new good game. But again, maybe this possibly false impression is just in my head.
Bethesda didn’t create Fallout btw.
Kssio_Aug
Member
I meant Fallout 3 and 4. But I'm pretty sure you're being deliberately obtuse.
Kilau
Member
You are hyped about spoons and telling me I have generic taste.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Taking pot shots isn't very helpful.
Bethesda SP games have features that are not available elsewhere, and there is a price to pay for it.
That makes em special, something you get to play once in 5-6 yrs.
Kilau
Member
Nope, just pointing out a misconception. I loved Fallout 3 and New Vegas, 4 not so much.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
The world persistence (objects and NPCs), the incredible modability and the sheer size of the worlds is what makes the engine so special. Outer Worlds was on UE4 and not only were the open worlds somewhat small, mods for the game barely exist.
Kilau
Member
You made a dumb assumption and I replied based on what you posted and now you whine about “pot shots”.
vaibhavpisal
Member
There is ton more stuff that engine facilitate. Open ended nature, truly unique builds and gameplay to support them etc from top of my head.
I will spend ridiculous amount of time to learn ins and outs of the rpg system.
DaGwaphics
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GermanZepp
Member
This game makes me want to grab an S