DeepEnigma
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My stock is still dipping, Nintendo. FFS, lol.
I think if Nintendo and Xbox have done a deal you’ll see all of Nintendo’s retro stuff from NES to Wii U on Game Pass in it’s own category like the EA thing. In return Nintendo will get GP on Switch through streaming aswell as an absolute fuckton of cash from MS aswell as a percentage of MS’s GP subscription cash due to the Nintendo games on it.I find surprising that Nintendo does not a proper retro strategy. Today, they could be selling NES/SNES/N64 consoles (with proper HDMI support) and cartridges at premium price and probably they would be completely sold out.
The turn around in sales from the Wii U is amazing, I liked the Switch since it's reveal, but even I was not prepared for how well it has done.This is why I admire Nintendo, I know most here only care about games and "fair prices" (you know, Nintendo is a charity now) but observing them with a business POV is always amazing, they just do what they have to do as a company and the results are tremendous.
Where's my "crying" reaction?
I was hoping for a GTA Chinatown-like successor on Switch you know, built from the ground up similar to RE Revelations. Branded handheld-centered releases could sell bonkers with much smaller budgets, just like MH Rise. Millions of sales guaranteed for quality releases, proven by the Switch software sales track record.Looks like Nintendo doesn't need any help from GTA, COD, and AAA 3rd party games at all.
I'm still disappointed that GTA Chinatown Wars didn't get a successor on the 3DS. GTA CW was great. One of my favourite GTA's.I was hoping for a GTA Chinatown-like successor on Switch you know, built from the ground up similar to RE Revelations. Branded handheld-centered releases could sell bonkers with much smaller budgets, just like MH Rise. Millions of sales guaranteed for quality releases, proven by the Switch software sales track record.
But I guess the ship has sailed now, we didn't even have The Sims for Switch. Can't say I'm not disappointed with the current 3rd party offerings.
Totally agree, even though it's pretty much Nintendo first party offerings that are pushing sales, you can't help but think third parties are missing a trick here by not making some Switch exclusive games built for the system and it's demographic.I was hoping for a GTA Chinatown-like successor on Switch you know, built from the ground up similar to RE Revelations. Branded handheld-centered releases could sell bonkers with much smaller budgets, just like MH Rise. Millions of sales guaranteed for quality releases, proven by the Switch software sales track record.
But I guess the ship has sailed now, we didn't even have The Sims for Switch. Can't say I'm not disappointed with the current 3rd party offerings.
Metroid Prime 4 should be Nintendo title to showcase a pro model.
Cutting edge shouldn't imply graphics. BOTW was cutting edge and is a Wii U game. By cutting edge I mean the magic that Nintendo has when they actually put forth some effort. Odyssey definitely applies but that was made when Nintendo was in a fighting position. Whenever they're profitable it seems like meaningful titles grind to a halt.Are you really expecting cutting edge games on this type of hardware and with so many remakes?
Most people I know have their Switch as a second console to their Playstation or Xbox. Playstation and PC is the strongest combination in terms of AAA gaming and performance which leaves the Switch as tertiary. And regardless people are buying the current crop of games so there's no incentive for Nintendo to push the boat out for cutting edge stuff as long as demand is there.
My body was not ready for that.CAN YOU STOP THIS TRAIN?
YOU FUCKING CAN'T BABY!!!!
Nice but not revolutionary. The Lite looks just like a regular handheld. The regular switch hooks up to a TV.Well deserved as far as I'm concerned. The Switch is an extraordinary concept, and their games are quite unique while being mostly excellent.
Not really a war when you consider Nintendo are not even going after the same market as Sony and Microsoft, it's just the core gamers that see all this as a big competition, I just like the fact Nintendo are surprising so many on here,and have no issues with all three manufacturers doing well, it's a healthy time for video games.Console fanboy profit wars is the most cringe aspect of console fanboyism, which is say a lot.
Shhhh.
Profits only matter when you are talking Playstation vs. Xbox
Not that important when you throw Nintendo into the mix
I think the lite is a regular handheld, and like you say it's more of an evolution than revolution, it's so similar to the Wii U in many aspects.Nice but not revolutionary. The Lite looks just like a regular handheld. The regular switch hooks up to a TV.
OK.
Always about the games at the end of the day when Nintendo is concerned.
Safe to say and the end of Switch life it will generated more profits than PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP, PSV, XB, X360, and XB1 combined.
From WiiU to the hardware that profitable more than the entire gaming hardware of Sony and Microsoft.
Or for making a cool piece of tech that appeals to a wider demographic than just people that own every console and a gaming P.C, and do not spend most of their spare time playing games and talking about them on the internet, I am including myself in that slight slur.Congrats to Nintendo for making cheap stuff and getting people to buy it at a high price.
Not really a war when you consider Nintendo are not even going after the same market as Sony and Microsoft, it's just the core gamers that see all this as a big competition, I just like the fact Nintendo are surprising so many on here,and have no issues with all three manufacturers doing well, it's a healthy time for video games.
Safe to say and the end of Switch life it will generated more profits than PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP, PSV, XB, X360, and XB1 combined.
From WiiU to the hardware that profitable more than the entire gaming hardware of Sony and Microsoft.
The thread is also full of positive comments too, so now we can't be happy a console manufacturer is doing well?, even more so after their previous console.Right; but what Nintendo is doing has nothing to do with how fanboys act
And there's a huge difference between wanting an industry to be healthy and cheering on maximizing profits, particularly since the actual scale of the industry hasn't grown. They are making more money off of roughly the same amount or less people than past generations.. AKA they are figuring out ways to sell us things that cost them less, for more... it becomes even more bizarre when people act negatively towards a company doing the opposite.. willing to give us things that cost them more, for less.
It doesn't make any sense; I am a Playstation fan, I do not wear their profits on my sleeve like some badge of honor. I am also a NIntendo fan, and same thing there.. and an Xbox fan.. and I certainly am not mad that they are willing to lose money selling me things. That would be idiotic.
The "healthy industry" thing is always what people say.. in threads full of people being insanely childish who are absolutely not cheering on industry health, but some bizarre "win" they think they have for choosing a specific console that profits more.
I'm mostly just talking about people that use this info for immature console wars. I do find being happy for maximum profits odd too, but it's not necessarily console wars.The thread is also full of positive comments too, so now we can't be happy a console manufacturer is doing well?, even more so after their previous console.
I'm mostly just talking about people that use this info for immature console wars. I do find being happy for maximum profits odd too, but it's not necessarily console wars.
I should call out specific people, sorry if it's a derail.
Exactly. I never want to hear how expensive games are to make or how long they take to make. Their profits are better than ever. The Industry is stronger than ever. If its not crashing during a pandemic recession, its not crashing ever. Go all in.Good for Nintendo and the health of their gaming business.
At the same time, you'd think that this would provide them room to take more risks and re-invest those profits into building more, bigger and larger scope games.
As gamers, it's not enough for us to just cheer that our favourite gaming companies are making money. We should be looking at what they are doing with those record profits.
As it stands, I wouldn't say either of the big three are doing enough considering the money they're making now compared to previous gens.
Yes, games cost more to make, but you're also making infinitely more money now than in previous gens. So you should be greenlighting more games.
The bottom line of what I've been saying in this thread is that "profits don't necessarily equate to better things for consumers, and often result in or come from the opposite." Which is why cheering them out of that context I find quite odd.Yes, games cost more to make, but you're also making infinitely more money now than in previous gens. So you should be greenlighting more games.
Nice but not revolutionary. The Lite looks just like a regular handheld. The regular switch hooks up to a TV.
OK.
Always about the games at the end of the day when Nintendo is concerned.
You can take a calculator and do the math for yourself by adding all of PlayStation division profits since the beginning vs Nintendo SwitchThat can't be real?
Doesn't matter. Even when Nintendo advertises them (which they do for most of the 3rd party exclusives and they publish most of them as well) the base doesn't buy them. The only big sellers 3rd party wise are MH Rise, Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity (Uses Nintendo IP) and Among us.Totally agree, even though it's pretty much Nintendo first party offerings that are pushing sales, you can't help but think third parties are missing a trick here by not making some Switch exclusive games built for the system and it's demographic.
Well, goes to show money can be made by gaming companies that don't need:Even though I don't own a switch, I'm happy to see the only pure gaming company on top.
When you built a new game with the Switch in mind, expect some big numbers, unlike late ports of multiplatform games. Also Starlink, Mario Rabbids, Minecraft, Just Dance, DQ XIS.Doesn't matter. Even when Nintendo advertises them (which they do for most of the 3rd party exclusives and they publish most of them as well) the base doesn't buy them. The only big sellers 3rd party wise are MH Rise, Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity (Uses Nintendo IP) and Among us.
Ok so you're saying they just don't exist? Also DQXI had most of its sales on the PS4/3DS over 4M of the roughly 6M sales. MC is 2.2M. Mario & Rabbids did ~2M. I don't think Starlink hit 1M and I can't find sales for Just Dance.When you built a new game with the Switch in mind, expect some big numbers, unlike late ports of multiplatform games. Also Starlink, Mario Rabbids, Minecraft, Just Dance, DQ XIS.
Minecraft is definitely well above 10 million units on Switch, the number you mentioned above is only physical sales numbers in Japan.Ok so you're saying they just don't exist? Also DQXI had most of its sales on the PS4/3DS over 4M of the roughly 6M sales. MC is 2.2M. Mario & Rabbids did ~2M. I don't think Starlink hit 1M and I can't find sales for Just Dance.
I'm referring to DQ XI S version, not the original PS4 or 3DS. And all of those examples are ports or multi-platforms.Ok so you're saying they just don't exist? Also DQXI had most of its sales on the PS4/3DS over 4M of the roughly 6M sales. MC is 2.2M. Mario & Rabbids did ~2M. I don't think Starlink hit 1M and I can't find sales for Just Dance.
I do not know how that piece of shit of a game sold 32 million copies. That's WTF material.Christ in heaven. And at full price, too.
I do not know how that piece of shit of a game sold 32 million copies. That's WTF material.
Kinda crazy.
Not really surprising since many people love a great game.I do not know how that piece of shit of a game sold 32 million copies. That's WTF material.
Kinda crazy.
Yep! My favorite game this year is called It Takes Two, and its far from being this incredible powerhouse spec.
PS5 is the leader in dollar sales - Each PS5 costs between 400 and 500$, Switch is 300 or less
NPD Q1 2021 result
Unit sales
Nintendo Switch ~2M
PS5 ~1M
Dollar sales
PS5>Switch
For hardware revenue Sony beats Nintendo, number of devices Nintendo beats SonyNow I'm confused lol
I'm pretty sure there was a thread putting PS5 ahead of Switch on the same period. But maybe it was just NPD data.
What is this even based on? Third party games have strong sales on Switch and that's why third party support is increasing. Even if we ignore indie titles, there were 14 third party games released at retail that sold over 1 million copies in the past 12 months.Doesn't matter. Even when Nintendo advertises them (which they do for most of the 3rd party exclusives and they publish most of them as well) the base doesn't buy them. The only big sellers 3rd party wise are MH Rise, Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity (Uses Nintendo IP) and Among us.