Dash Kappei
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He said 5/10% not 90% lol
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Nintendo Going Mobile: Smartphone Game Deal with DeNA [First Games Fall 2015]
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He said 5/10% not 90% lol
Aaronrules380
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Nintendo is still a first party developer. Don't expect the same type of games we get on consoles and handhelds from them to be on mobile, even with this
Interceptor
Banned
If you can´t be happy for the games, be for the brand promotion. And for the silence of analysts.
Yes, Iwata specified it a few times.
I'm not really excited for this because mobile games tend to be garbage and I don't see Nintendo really putting their ace teams to make these games. I just hope they make money to fund their real games on the Wii U or whatever console without any fuss from their shareholders.
Give me Zelda U on time please.
Give me Zelda U on time please.
Yeah I read it as draining to 5-10%.
Baleoce
Member
"Ahhh, you think DeNA is your ally.."
Yes, i heard from that. But even they will properly be exited about a much more constant flow of work. All in all it kind of place the reach of Nintendo out and give them more options ... at least it will finally stop shareholders, some forum-users, experts and journalist to list, why Nintendo should go mobil and why it would be the best thing ever. And we are over the account-system problem. Only missing from the list are region-lock, cross-gaming, 3rd Party support and DOOMED!
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Im the only one that has read this post and the OP?
Or are people crying wolf becuase they like to do it?
thiscoldblack
Unconfirmed Member
History repeats itself. Nintendo dismisses, everyone insists them, they give in. Discs, online gaming, HD graphics, second analog stick on DS series, smartphone games.
Well it happened on my last two phones too, that's why I've been so against mobile gaming in general.
My battery isn't eligible
They'll just jump on the next thing when the mobile bubble bursts
AcademicSaucer
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Interceptor
Banned
Well it happened on my last two phones too, that's why I've been so against mobile gaming in general.
My battery isn't eligible
They'll just jump on the next thing when the mobile bubble bursts
Well if this thread is any indication they will read the headline, half the text, imagine the rest, come to strange conclusions and close with a snarky "told you so".
Okay, well, questions about this because it was a bit of a humdinger to wake up to.
Nintendo will be making smart device games for PC/mobile/tablet, right? It's safe to assume though that any games playable on PC will only be just versions of the mobile/tablet games. I think? Just kinda speculating here. So, if that's the case, I think it's relatively safe to assume any/all of these games will be touchscreen games and not use a traditional controller. Is that everyone here's impression, too? If so, I'm curious to see what kind of games are planned.
If the account system + smartphone games will launch in Fall 2015-ish, is it safe to assume we'll get info by E3 at the latest?
Also, do y'all expect any mobile/tablet Nintendo games would also be made available on the 3DS/Wii U eShops? (Or would that defeat the purpose?)
One more question. Is everyone also assuming Nintendo's smartphone games will advertise their exclusive 3DS/Wii U SW/HW as well? I'd think that has to be part of the point of this.
Nintendo will be making smart device games for PC/mobile/tablet, right? It's safe to assume though that any games playable on PC will only be just versions of the mobile/tablet games. I think? Just kinda speculating here. So, if that's the case, I think it's relatively safe to assume any/all of these games will be touchscreen games and not use a traditional controller. Is that everyone here's impression, too? If so, I'm curious to see what kind of games are planned.
If the account system + smartphone games will launch in Fall 2015-ish, is it safe to assume we'll get info by E3 at the latest?
Also, do y'all expect any mobile/tablet Nintendo games would also be made available on the 3DS/Wii U eShops? (Or would that defeat the purpose?)
One more question. Is everyone also assuming Nintendo's smartphone games will advertise their exclusive 3DS/Wii U SW/HW as well? I'd think that has to be part of the point of this.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
Well it happened on my last two phones too, that's why I've been so against mobile gaming in general.
My battery isn't eligible
They'll just jump on the next thing when the mobile bubble bursts
And it will
F2P Animal Crossing. You can buy 10,000 bells for 50 cents.
Nintendo incapable of working on new games due to all of their buildings being buried under the weight of their own cash.
Seriously, though, is there a better franchise to put on mobile? I just want a new animal crossing, damnit. One I could play while I sit around drinking coffee in the morning would be pretty amazing.
Nintendo incapable of working on new games due to all of their buildings being buried under the weight of their own cash.
Seriously, though, is there a better franchise to put on mobile? I just want a new animal crossing, damnit. One I could play while I sit around drinking coffee in the morning would be pretty amazing.
I'm curious if there's been any word on whether DeNA will continue developing new non-Nintendo games now, or if they'll go all in with Nintendo IPs or games under this initiative?
I'm sure it must be tempting to focus on the Nintendo stable of IPs.
From another viewpoint, things could get tricky if DeNA continues developing their own properties outside of the auspices of this agreement, and there's subsequently a disagreement about whether a particular game or idea belonged to DeNA alone or both companies. E.g. if DeNA went on to develop an idea independently of Nintendo that DeNA and Nintendo at one time collaborated on or rejected.
I'm sure it must be tempting to focus on the Nintendo stable of IPs.
From another viewpoint, things could get tricky if DeNA continues developing their own properties outside of the auspices of this agreement, and there's subsequently a disagreement about whether a particular game or idea belonged to DeNA alone or both companies. E.g. if DeNA went on to develop an idea independently of Nintendo that DeNA and Nintendo at one time collaborated on or rejected.
Get a grip, this is much bigger than that. More like a gameboy reboot. Maybe even something more ancient than that. Like resetting the clock on game development history. A "what if" scenario; "What if gaming began with touchscreens instead of buttons?" Limited input. Small games. But: measured mechanics and deep gameplay. (Half sarcastic)
Neff
Member
Pretty much. Everyone rips them off anyway, and people will buy any old shit, so I don't see too many downsides. In the past it looked like there was a danger of players leaving Nintendo if they could get their N-fix on rival platforms, but since a) they're doing that anyway and b) Nintendo's core business is supported more than ever by its faithful market, and remaining profitable at that, then I really see no harm in them doing this. It can only bring in more money and customers.
I will say though that Nintendo will be the ultimate Litmus test for the mobile industry. If they can't make it work reliably, over a long period of time, then there's something inherently unstable about it and its future possibly dim.
evilromero
Member
I'm ready for the inevitable badass game announcement thread that turns out to be for mobile.
Well it happened on my last two phones too, that's why I've been so against mobile gaming in general.
My battery isn't eligible
They'll just jump on the next thing when the mobile bubble bursts
So get an iPad Mini and keep your phone on the charger. This isn't a problem for the vast majority of people.
I play games on my phone every day and my battery life is fine.
Probably won't happen
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2015/03/1...-games-dena-will-operate/#SwUc6yPVdJpvotCW.99
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
If you read and followed what transpired during the event, you'd know that they are going to still continue with their other collars and own ip too.
akidnamededdy
Banned
If only Nintendo themselves made a dedicated portable device for games.
three_muffins
Gold Member
THIS is what i call a megaton.
You know the latter was to be expected with the news. Personally, I think it's awesome. Nintendo gets to dip its toes into the mobile market, doesn't forsake its traditional development stylings, commits to the idea of building games to the strengths of both and (the megaton for me personally) they get a legit infrastructure from a proven force. There's also the silent admission that they aren't going to sit around and remain rigid against change like this.
Oh and there was all that NX stuff but yeah, overall a really solid showing.
Interesting to see their hints from previous investor events come together, I think they said they are going to try to get a synergy going between mobile gaming and console gaming, and even they were talking about possible M&A's or partnerships to do so. What I was curious about was whether they would directly try to profit off of the mobile side of that synergy, haha
if only that dedicated portable device had a fraction of the install base that smartphones do...
Vanillalite
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Newsflash
People aren't ever gonna stop making games when there are BILLIONS of mobile devices and climbing out there.
Some of you people are fucking delusional.
This is a sort of non-issue given the sort of business DeNA is in. They're not some huge mobile developer with original hits of their own. Their strength is in offering a platform for partners. Their biggest titles are generally tie-ins with other companies - Final Fantasy, bunch of anime stuff, titles from other publishers, etc. Nintendo is now their biggest partner yet, but that doesn't mean they're going to turn other partners away.
ActStriker
Member
People treating this as a doomsday scenario are funny.
If you want to play every Nintendo game, you'll need a phone or tablet from here on out.
Storm Kyleis
Member
Not saying that, but the monetisation model on it and how the games are presented can't last. The mobile gaming industry, considering its installbase and amount of developers is doing pitifully, financially.
Something has to and will change in that regard
akidnamededdy
Banned
Yuh I know. I was just pointing out the silliness of the poster suggesting that someone buy a separate device for these games when the whole reason this is happening to begin with is because people don't want to carry their phone plus a portable gaming device.
If you want to play every Nintendo game, you'll need a phone or tablet from here on out.
It's 2015, I have a phone and a tablet.
Their plan to create totally different styles of software is the right one, because you know they won't half ass it - and if they create good games it can only be good for their brand.
Incorporating miiverse will make miiverse a more powerful platform, should they choose to do that.
I'm assuming the PC side will leverage the Windows Phone / Windows 8/10RT platform - ie. I can play that Sonic Runner game on my phone and on my Windows laptop.
It's a wise move IMO, if they do it right it doesn't have to jeopardise their existence as a platform holder. It may in fact strengthen them.
This could have interesting ramifications for their next handheld and its development environment, if they choose to make these games playable, but its unclear if that's the case.
If I'm EA, or one of the other big publishers who has been enjoying success on mobile, I wouldn't know whether to welcome this or fear it. This is a space Nintendo can dominate of they choose to.
Incorporating miiverse will make miiverse a more powerful platform, should they choose to do that.
I'm assuming the PC side will leverage the Windows Phone / Windows 8/10RT platform - ie. I can play that Sonic Runner game on my phone and on my Windows laptop.
It's a wise move IMO, if they do it right it doesn't have to jeopardise their existence as a platform holder. It may in fact strengthen them.
This could have interesting ramifications for their next handheld and its development environment, if they choose to make these games playable, but its unclear if that's the case.
If I'm EA, or one of the other big publishers who has been enjoying success on mobile, I wouldn't know whether to welcome this or fear it. This is a space Nintendo can dominate of they choose to.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Might want to go grab a cup of coffee.
Ah OK. That makes sense. I imagine they'll have to be careful to ensure ideas don't hop over fences between partners though.
It'll be interesting to see what proportion of their business this venture ends up being.
I fully understand the reasons. And i like the way they approach this, with this deep business partnership, which shows that they are really serious about this, it's not just a side thing. But still, they will need to allocate resources for this and that means less resources for the dedicated gaming devices, because I don't see Nintendo expanding too soon after they are just back in black. So it will have an impact even if not immediately.
You should read the op. Porting their old game would mean tipping a toe, they are going really full in with a full partnership and developing new account structure and new games together with DeNA.
As explained in the Q&A, Nintendo will develop most of the front end of the mobile games while DeNA will handle the back end.
None of the traditional console/handheld companies took this approach. They rather tried to make companion apps and port old games. This is not a shareholders bait, it wasn't even presented in the last investor meeting. It's a big venture.
Edit: Nintendo has proven before that they know how to do good games based on touch controls, I'm sure they will do nice games, just don't expect a full Zelda or something.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Nintendo will never make a succesful home console again, so this is smart
I wasn't the one complaining about battery life. My phone has been my portable gaming device for years. I was just saying that since Joe has a battery phobia, he has options.
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