They may catch the PS4 by June.Sorry, I'm confused. Have what by the first quarter of which fiscal year?
i love playing Minecraft on it with my kids
I think June might be a bit soon, but mostly likely it will pass the PS4 by the end of 2022. Will be interesting to see Nintendo's forecast for the next fiscal year.They may catch the PS4 by June.
The graphics of next gen will soon come and leave Switch in the dust in the same way HD left Wii in the dust and Wii sales fell off a cliff.Which happened because HD became a common thing, and PS3 and 360 were more viable if not quite mass market.
Not quite a concern with the Switch.
You want to call it portable or hybrid, it doesn't matter the fact is Switch is Nintendo's main system same way PS5 is Sony's main system.What a reduculous thread, it's not a regular console, half of the 70 million probably never get hooked to a tv, the other 30 million are switch lites - a portable gaming machine, not a console.
No it's not. I for one am extremely happy with it. Especially the first party and third party supportYou want to call it portable or hybrid, it doesn't matter the fact is Switch is Nintendo's main system same way PS5 is Sony's main system.
I feel like people desperately trying to make bunch of excuses why Switch selling well in order make themselves feel better.
Is it such bad thing for Switch systems selling well?
Third party support?No it's not. I for one am extremely happy with it. Especially the first party and third party support
Is Monster Hunter Rise, Triangle Strategy and Shin Megami Tensei V 3rd party? Last time I checked they were.Third party support?
Really?
Maybe 5 good first party games at most.Also has a lot of good software, there must be 30 first party games at this point.
You want to call it portable or hybrid, it doesn't matter the fact is Switch is Nintendo's main system same way PS5 is Sony's main system.
I feel like people desperately trying to make bunch of excuses why Switch selling well in order make themselves feel better.
Is it such bad thing for Switch systems selling well?
Exactly.It's not bad that it sells well, but people want to clarify why it's selling so well because fanboys are so freaking annoying. Nintendo has no competition. The only other handhelds are PC handhelds that are far more expensive. That could change with the Steam Deck (or maybe not - who knows). In comparison, the only other main console makers are Sony and Microsoft who are in direct competition with each other and in an entirely different section of the market (e.g. non-handhelds).
It's easy to sell a ton when you have a good product and no competition, but it's much more impressive to have amazing sales figures when there is competition.
Exactly.
That's why when SteamDeck comes out I expect Switch sales to start to flounder. It's another one of my reasons.
This is silly. The Wii was a home console and sold well over the PS3 and the XB360. The competition hasn't changed their modus operandi since then.It's not bad that it sells well, but people want to clarify why it's selling so well because fanboys are so freaking annoying. Nintendo has no competition. The only other handhelds are PC handhelds that are far more expensive. That could change with the Steam Deck (or maybe not - who knows). In comparison, the only other main console makers are Sony and Microsoft who are in direct competition with each other and in an entirely different section of the market (e.g. non-handhelds).
It's easy to sell a ton when you have a good product and no competition, but it's much more impressive to have amazing sales figures when there is competition.
The value proposition is really going to make Switch look bad in comparison and consumers will see.I think "flounder" might be too strong of a word. The Switch is far more well known than the Steam Deck, and the Steam Deck is going to be extremely hard to get for the first year. But I will be interested in seeing what impact the Steam Deck does have, if any.
Not the same target audience. Steam Deck is a tinker device.Exactly.
That's why when SteamDeck comes out I expect Switch sales to start to flounder. It's another one of my reasons.
Sure. It isn't as plug in and play.The value proposition is really going to make Switch look bad in comparison and consumers will see.
Once they realise they have access to all of the AAA games on the market and way better graphics with only a little added cost Switch will be left in the dust.
The value proposition is really going to make Switch look bad in comparison and consumers will see.
Once they realise they have access to all of the AAA games on the market and way better graphics with only a little added cost Switch will be left in the dust.
So this whats all about isn't it? So this whole dislike towards Switch selling well is about graphics!?The value proposition is really going to make Switch look bad in comparison and consumers will see.
Once they realise they have access to all of the AAA games on the market and way better graphics with only a little added cost Switch will be left in the dust.
This is silly. The Wii was a home console and sold well over the PS3 and the XB360. The competition hasn't changed their modus operandi since then.
Once they realise they have access to all of the AAA games on the market and way better graphics with only a little added cost Switch will be left in the dust.
That sounds exactly like the PS4 and Xbox One arguments last generation.The graphics of next gen will soon come and leave Switch in the dust in the same way HD left Wii in the dust and Wii sales fell off a cliff.
Switch came out after PS4 and Xbox One.That sounds exactly like the PS4 and Xbox One arguments last generation.
Invalid argument because back in the time people had to buy two devices to have access to the full extend of Nintendo catalog, this time those that would have bought both consoles have to only buy one since all the catalog is in a single placeTo be honest, Nintendo used to compete in the home console and handheld fronts.
This generation they decided to go hybrid, so we should compare with the sum of home consoles + handhelds from last generations. Nintendo DS alone sold 155m units and Wii around 100m units, so Nintendo Switch should sell around 255m units to surpass the sucess of that generation. Might not be totally fair because Wii + DS was above all expectations, but even the 3DS sold around 75m units, so 100m units it's not impressive considering all the installed base from previous generations.
A game console is not the same as a home console. I can play my 3DS at home. That doesn't make it a home console. If a portable has a tv out, that does not make it a home console. Yes it can be played as one, but it is not one.A game console is a device designed for the purpose of playing games.
Laptops and Desktops are not designed for this. Neither are mobile phones (before you go there).
The switch is also designed to be played at home. You can start trying to split hairs all you like, but if you're going down that route then the current trend of modern consoles focussing towards providing multimedia functionality puts them on much shakier ground than a home console that is designed to be played at home or on the go.
Awww poor baby, yes really. I played a ton of Japanese Third Parties on Switch.Third party support?
Really?
Haha! Love it.If liking Japanese games makes me "weeb" then......
You want to call it portable or hybrid, it doesn't matter the fact is Switch is Nintendo's main system same way PS5 is Sony's main system.
I feel like people desperately trying to make bunch of excuses why Switch selling well in order make themselves feel better.
Is it such bad thing for Switch systems selling well?
I own both PS4/5 and Switch and I can tell you I play more games on my Switch than Playstation 5 and honestly these days I enjoy first party Nintendo games more Playstation first party ever since Sony decided to focus on western cinematic games for their first party and completely lost first party Japanese games.I have no issue with it selling well, but lets be real, the real reason it has had such massive success is it's the only portable (or portable hybrid) on the market. Lets not act like its some sort of amazing piece of hardware or that Nintendo's lineup of AAA games was the reason it has sold this many.
It's about 30% of the reason, the remaining 70% was due to lack of choice. And I'm a switch owner that enjoys Nintendo games. If they had any competition in the space, things would be completely different.
You cannot honestly believe this. This take is worse than your Pokemon sales thread.The value proposition is really going to make Switch look bad in comparison and consumers will see.
Once they realise they have access to all of the AAA games on the market and way better graphics with only a little added cost Switch will be left in the dust.
I own both PS4/5 and Switch and I can tell you I play more games on my Switch than Playstation 5 and honestly these days I enjoy first party Nintendo games more Playstation first party ever since Sony decided to focus on western cinematic games for their first party and completely lost first party Japanese games.
It’s all about the gamesNone of the current "big gaming" companies are physically able to "regress" to the level of detail and fidelity that Nintendo is operating on, without alienating the vast majority of their playerbase, that has come to expect cutting-edge graphics and hardware in the current-generation consoles. Nintendo is able to keep being massively successful without significantly increasing their operating costs, because they have dropped out of the hardware race and focused on creating fun games first and foremost, and cinematic experiences second or third.
Its always been about games, we buy gaming consoles for that very reason, not waste time counting pixels in order to fuel imaginary "war" about which plastic box is better in Digital Foundry threads.It’s all about the games
The demand for SteamDeck was through the roof it sold out in minutes. People are foolish to underestimate it.You cannot honestly believe this. This take is worse than your Pokemon sales thread.
The market at large will not notice or care about the Steam Deck for the next couple of years, and even if it somehow miraculously did, Valve isn't producing enough to satisfy its niche audience yet let alone to start making waves in the mainstream. Steam Deck will have practically zero impact on Switch sales in the next two years, I say that as someone who has had a Steam Deck preordered since day 1.
Technically it wasn't "sold out", since there were none to sell in the first place, and no limits were established. Though overwhelming the servers with $5 preorder claims that didn't even require any downloads, and instantly pushing the "expected delivery" dates beyond the manufacturer's ability to estimate them probably counts.The demand for SteamDeck was through the roof it sold out in minutes. People are foolish to underestimate it.
The OP is the one that put "home console" in the title. The Switch Lite is not a home console, it is a dedicated handheld with the only differences between it and it's brothers being it's physical configuration. However, that simply gets ignored in these debates.
This is an artificial limitation put in place either by publishers/manufacturers or governments and their broadcast standards. The PS3 was region-free. Every other console could be, too, if they so desired. Also, sales are tracked by region so.....
I was going to post some pro-Nintendo comment, but I feel like I'll be mocked and ridiculed for liking some sort of subpar piece of garbage.
It seems like anyone who doesn't like Nintendo just doesn't grasp a simple fact: it's all about the games. Graphics, once you reach HD, do NOT matter to the VAST majority of Nintendo hardware consumers. The Steam Deck is cool and all, but that is going after a completely different demographic than "people who have or want a Switch".
The argument that the Switch isn't a home console is ludicrous. Switch Lite? Sure. But the actual Switch? I play the Switch just like I played my Wii U and Wii and PS3: on a 50" TV or a 108" projection screen. It's a home console if it was designed to do that. And hey, it's ALSO a portable console. In fact, you can SWITCH from one to the other!
I guess I just don't understand many of the posts in this thread since they're mostly irrelevant to the original topic: the Switch is selling really well.
Which I actually consider to be a good thing. Games don't need PS5 graphics. The more the graphics race to infinity is obstructed, be it by chip shortages or delightfully old-fashioned Japanese corporations, the longer we will be able to still appreciate games for what they really should be - fun experiences, rather than cinematic epics.Graphics do matter to Nintendo customers, thier just given no alternative if they want to play Nintendo games. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and say you wouldn't rather play botw2 with ps5 graphics? Of course you would - but you have zero options.
Eventually Switch will outsell the PS2 and Nintendo fans can have peace.
The demand for SteamDeck was through the roof it sold out in minutes. People are foolish to underestimate it.