ShinNL
Member
Can we cancel him?
An absolutely disgusting human being who tries to gain and abuse their position of power while pretending to fight for justice, the very same injustice they're the embodiment of? Gosh, I have never seen that before.
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An absolutely disgusting human being who tries to gain and abuse their position of power while pretending to fight for justice, the very same injustice they're the embodiment of? Gosh, I have never seen that before.
The Alien
Banned
What forums?
We can fix that by taking his advice. Nothing like a good ol' fashion data/screenshot dump to ruin his day. Bwa-hahahahaha!!!
TriSuit666
Banned
Look, it's irrelevant. A blacklist is a blacklist. PERIOD. It's a way to gatekeep access into an industry.
Legislation was brought in to stop the very thing Danny is suggesting. You are denying a person's ability to work based on some spurious reason other than their ability to perform the job required.
Danny is also suggesting others follow his lead, thereby levereging his perceived 'influence' in the industry.
And as I've already mentioned, the State Law where Danny is, is even more strict.
Wrong. That is precisely his intent.
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LazyParrot
Member
If it's irrelevant, why did you post it in the first place? And what industry is he denying people access to? You're making the guy sound like he's the God-Emperor of the video game industry. All he does is make low budget documentaries about games, and they're not even all that good.
Who is he denying the chance or ability to work except himself? He is the one choosing not to collaborate with certain companies. He is the one who ends up with fewer work opportunities.
I don't see how this is any different than what thousands of other people are doing: asking people not to do business with known abusers or those sheltering them. I don't think this is illegal.
Even more strict than what? That law you posted from a country the guy doesn't even live in that seems to have absolutely no bearing on this case? That's a pretty low bar to clear.
DangerStepp
Member
Time to blacklist Danny Boy.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
With no humor or joking about it. If a person is going to swing a list around of “bad” people and they think it’s a high and mighty powerful situation.... they really should learn a bad list, naughty list, or a undesirable list.
PhoenixTank
Member
Both A and B are required for the law you cited to apply, and his reasoning has nothing to do with trade unions (A). Being part of a trade union is a very specific and important reason for both the potential discriminator and discriminated. Not a blanket law.
Is it that hard to admit you cited something without understanding it? Not a sign of weakness to do so, more like growth.
There is enough bullshit floating around lately - be better than the people that throw accusations and jump to conclusions on Twitter.
Honey Bunny
Member
This was the type of person that snitched their neighbours out to the Stasi
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Allnamestakenlol
Member
Ah ha...ahahaha....AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Shmunter
Member
I think she spoke against the abuse she received working for the holy woke mother Zoe Quinn. Pretty much untouchable after blasphemous conduct. Happy to be corrected otherwise.Yeah, good plan. Make some vacancies open so his friends can try to get in lol
Edit: it may have been Anita Suckeasian
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DarkArterialGore
Member
BlackM1st
Banned
Have absolutely no idea who is she, but guy is promoting her while trying to cancel other ppl.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
Joseph McCarthy would be proud.
CharlieTuna
Member
Damn, i used to like Danny, shame he went insane like the rest of the industry.
DilWSTS
Member
He is noclip.
midasmulligan
Member
Keep it up kid, you’ve got presidential written all over you 
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
How about they just let the people involved, and if needs be the courts, handle it amongst themselves? Why is an entertainment company related to video games, of all things, trying to be some kind of commercial vigilante?
What's really funny is Danny will probably be hit with some accusation from an overly emotional person who feels that she was wronged somehow, and either get cancelled or apologize profusely for months for basic human behavior (like hitting on someone).
What's really funny is Danny will probably be hit with some accusation from an overly emotional person who feels that she was wronged somehow, and either get cancelled or apologize profusely for months for basic human behavior (like hitting on someone).
Roman Empire
Member
This is just proof that our intolerance will be the cause of our doom in the near future. Until then I will enjoy videogames
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Madflavor
Member
Always felt this way. It's like they're overcompensating for bad shit they've done in the past.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
I unsubscribed after being there since day one. The videos started great with the DOOM docu, then the lengthy HL retrospective and others. But then they just started making boring content, I cant put my finger on it but anyone from Ars Technica docu captures my attention for minutes by talking about a MIDI file while NoClip really doesnt know how to ask proper questions. Ive read about him doing and saying dumb shit but now Im done. Its crowdfunded, you had the support in every way, now the people you interviewed you basically said "if you fucked up somewhere, I will find you, I will let everyone know and ill never interview you again". Id love to see how this will affect their YT subs.
anab0lic36
Member
I already had him blacklisted, since he claimed Horizon Zero dawn is a masterpiece.
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
So he's making a blacklist of people who have been accused of shit on Twitter with no evidence, proof, going through the proper legal channels, etc.? If so, wow.
Except for The Witcher III video from them, I have never bothered with No Clip.
Except for The Witcher III video from them, I have never bothered with No Clip.
chriskun
Member
Whats going on with Destiny?
TriSuit666
Banned
As I said originally, if he’d had said this where UK law applies he would have a problem, however, and if you look in that fucking Twitter thread, someone has quoted US law at him for the state he’s in, and the law there IS blanket provision.
Look, blacklists are morally, ethically (and yes, in some cases legally) wrong and non-defensible in my view, as someone who works in an industry where they were a thing (but thankfully not anymore), you won’t convince me otherwise, and anyone trying to pedantically dance around it is as bad as O’Dywer.
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Berserking Guts
Member
You better watch out, you better not cry
You better not pout, I'm telling you why
Danny boy is coming to town!
He's making a list, he's checking it twice
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice
Danny boy is coming to town!
He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!
You better not pout, I'm telling you why
Danny boy is coming to town!
He's making a list, he's checking it twice
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice
Danny boy is coming to town!
He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!
small_law
Member
Oh man. Last weekend, a streamer was accused of improper conduct, another streamer was found out to have engaged in blatant network manipulation, and two very popular streamers disassociated with a sponsor over allegations of improper conduct with a young woman.
I'm saying my words soft and tender here. A lot of the stuff is only accusations and I don't want to pile on. The BSK stuff is the most interesting. There's definitely videos on YouTube about what happened.
In other words, set aside about a half hour and take a deep dive. It's wild.
ShadowNate
Member
Can we maybe suggest alternatives for the term? Like purplelist? It seems more appropriate somehow.BLACKlist? I find this highly problematic
Roman Empire
Member
The Shadowlisted, or Those who should not be named/included? Not that I care, I have no problem with the term itself because I know what it entails to.
ShadowNate
Member
Just to clarify, I have no problem with the term either. I find it really silly that Google is doing that -- apparently because the word "black" is attributed a negative meaning in "blacklist". It has nothing to do with race or racism. It's way too far from an actual issue and it's in no way promoting or celebrating racism.
This idiotic overreaction should by the way set off a hilarious discussion of why not changing other words or phrases that use the word black to describe something negative. Like a blackout or the black market.
I'm ending my delirium here.
This idiotic overreaction should by the way set off a hilarious discussion of why not changing other words or phrases that use the word black to describe something negative. Like a blackout or the black market.
I'm ending my delirium here.
PhoenixTank
Member
No, he wouldn't or at least not because of that law. Just repeating something again and again does not make it magically ring true without at least adding something of substance.
I found one quoting Maine state law, apparently. This one?
Kinda funny since he doesn't live in Maine either. Twitter profile suggests as much.
If you meant another, my apologies, but I'll hope you'll forgive me for not wanting to delve too deep into Twitter replies, or Twitter in general.
You're welcome to be specific.
I'm not trying to convince you of the morals or ethics at all. Just that you:
- Googled up some bullshit and didn't verify the UK law actually meant what you wanted it to.
- Read some more bullshit on twitter, didn't verify it applied.
- Have been called out on it, are digging your heels in and apparently won't admit it.
Pedantry is a massive part of the law, from where I sit.
Thing is, he is in California, and I get the impression that they probably have the toughest labour protections for workers, meaning that there may well be robust provisions against blacklisting in that state.
My cursory glance seems to suggest it would revolve around a former employer denying re-employment. I don't think that applies in this case unless those blacklisted have been employed by O'Dwyer, but perhaps that may apply to agencies and employers if they have had employed/dismissed a now blacklisted person.
Of note, there is a summary on the 2019 Labor law in CA that includes:
I've not verified the Californian labor code in any great detail, just cursory, but I'm telling you as such. I welcome corrections and further information.
Devil is in the details, as they say.
Karak
Member
Can we cancel him?
Sorry I am catching up here. IS that real?
Shmunter
Member
Sadly so. Humanity is doomed.
PresetError
Neophyte
I'm sorry but Danny O'Dwyer is an asshole and his documentaries are antiquated in format and frankly boring in content.
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Internal black lists are totally fine
Credit industry in Amurica has one for reporting agencies and lenders and stuff; totally fine and legal
I used to work for a company where I had to regularly check that list when creating new accounts for companies requesting credit reports
You break your ToS with any of the report providers, or the agencies themselves?
Black listed from all 3 major ones.
The act of the black list itself isn't illegal; you can get black listed from working in say, bartending, because you pissed off a large bar and word got around to other bar owners that you're a shit head bar tender
PhoenixTank
hit it right on the head, reallyEither way; the act of pointing at someone and saying "YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL!" is childish
If they're doing something illegal, the adult thing to do would be to notify the proper authorities (Labor boards, trade boards, etc)
With that, you would need to bring evidence of the list, how it has been used to harm others, and how it did harm others; so you would need testimony from those individuals, with proof, as well as the list, with proof, or at least enough substantial evidence to have a subpoena to search for the list
And subpoena's have to be VERY VERY specific, those scenes in movies where they're tossing houses then just leave and you have to clean everything up is false. It has to be worded in ways like "Top dresser draw in master bed room," etc
The dudes an idiot, and may have talked about doing something unethical/illegal; no crime has been committed civil or criminal
And if he does do it?
Burden of proof is on the victim in this type of case