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[geordiemp]

They did not.

Allot more did than D1, we shall see, unless you have numbers.

Nope, thought not.

Still thought taken king Destiny was best Destiny.

 

[Niceguydan8]

I personally think people are overestimating the impact of PC. It won't be small, but I don't think it will be comparable to the other two consoles when it comes to playerbase, and I think it has a much shorter tail due to player preferences.

I think the ratio of enthusiasts(compared to everyone else) that would get the game on PC is much higher than it would be on consoles, and frankly I just don't think the game is deep enough to keep those players entertained.

 

[dragonflys545]

Destiny 1 burned a lot of people.

 

[c0de]

I switched from psysical to digital for Destiny 2, wasn't going to make that mistake again.

The mistake to not being able to sell the game after you finished playing it?
I mean, where is the mistake by buying the game physical?

 

[Kyoufu]

Lower, but not insignificant. Not nearly enough to explain that drop.

Nobody is saying digital sales made up 50%.

 

[Zukkoyaki]

Seems like it was down, not terribly surprising, but it's not as cataclysmic as some would hope.

 

[geordiemp]

Nobody is saying digital sales made up 50%.

Why not ?

I think its realistic for Destiny

 

[ethomaz]

That is terrible.

I did not expect that.

 

[tuna_love]

do people buy bad games digitally more often? 😎

 

[KageMaru]

You mean the way they kept improving it? Bungie didn’t just release it and call it a day.

No, they charged for overpriced "expansions" while making changes and refinements. No doubt the game was much better now than how it launched, doesn't change how bad they handled the first game. Between the overpriced DLC, crap story, lacking content, forced grinding, and other hoops people had to jump through as they padded the game every chance they could, it was clear they were bleeding gamers dry. The game should have lunched with the first three DLC packs included, but greed has clearly taken over the company and they lost what should be important when addressing their fans.

 

[Shredderi]

Allot more did than D1, we shall see, unless you have numbers.

Nope, thought not.

I'll have you tone down the attitude unless you have numbers yourself. Without numbers your claims are as good as mine.

 

[Pooya]

I personally think people are overestimating the impact of PC. It won't be small, but I don't think it will be comparable to the other two consoles when it comes to playerbase, and I think it has a much shorter tail due to player preferences.

I think the ratio of enthusiasts(compared to everyone else) that would get the game on PC is much higher than it would be on consoles, and frankly I just don't think the game is deep enough to keep those players entertained.

I think PC version is going to be relatively small. This business model with regular DLC does not do well on PC. I can't think of anything that does too well recently. Not even Battlefield does that great anymore and with the big delay they killed most of the interest, the beta came out almost 2 months ago and it's been just silence since. They've handled the PC version abysmally. I was excited, not anymore. They should have released whatever they had day1 if they wanted to be successful.

 

[Sir Vilhelm]

People acting like D1 didn’t sell digitally...

Exactly, this whole "but digital" narrative is overblown. Granted anecdotally, my group of gaming friends all bought D1 digitally and none of us returned to play D2, not one. D1 really soured a lot of people with their over promise and under delivery.

 

[katsais]

I bet most people bought it digitally. The real story will be how many players are still playing it in a month.

I’m sure most people find it a disappointment.

 

[RedAssedApe]

I personally think people are overestimating the impact of PC. It won't be small, but I don't think it will be comparable to the other two consoles when it comes to playerbase, and I think it has a much shorter tail due to player preferences.

I think the ratio of enthusiasts(compared to everyone else) that would get the game on PC is much higher than it would be on consoles, and frankly I just don't think the game is deep enough to keep those players entertained.

i'm going to say it'll be a few 100k. maybe some double dippers for the crazy hardcore players.

 

[Seth Enosh]

The mistake to not being able to sell the game after you finished playing it?
I mean, where is the mistake by buying the game physical?

It takes 3 years to “finish” destiny so you don’t really have much resale value after that.

It’s not like order 1886 where I bought it, played it, and sold it back after 2 days.

On topic, not surprising. We got a boast about CCU rather than sales for a reason. Even with digital the original destiny 1 probably sold better, 4 platforms and the hype was massive.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

We had someone here that said the sales were less than expected, 10-20% and I assume they already expected lower sales this time around. But hey, there is a PC version that will make up for the loss, most likely.

 

[ebullientprism]

This isnt surprising. D1 was very much a love it or hate it kind of a game.

I think the people that think the PC version will make up for those numbers are probably gonna be disappointed too. PC is insanely crowded with online MP games right now and there are cheaper (and in some cases free) options available. Hard for me to see this setting the PC world on fire.

 

[Niceguydan8]

i'm going to say it'll be a few 100k. maybe some double dippers for the crazy hardcore players.

Yeah, which is pretty small when we are talking about likely >1mil on each console. (more on PS4 obviously)

I don't think it will be some smash hit like some people make it out to be.

I think that even if it does make up for the sales on the PC, I don't personally find it very impressive that Destiny 2 would barely surpass Destiny 1 in sales.

 

[TyrantII]

I wonder how much of that percentage is digital sales.

Yup.

Everyone I know that grabbed it went to digital due to the way D1 was released/updated over 3 years.

Still, wouldn't be suprised if some people played the wait and see.

 

[Astral Dog]

Better games on the market compared to D1

 

[NullPointer]

From the article, regarding digital as a percentage of the total sales for D1 and D2:

The company's CEO Bobby Kotick said on a Feb. 2016 earnings call that "for games like Destiny, it had, in the high-20%s in terms of digital downloads" versus total sales. In Feb. 2017, Activision executive Dennis Durkin said Destiny digital sales mix rose to a "mid-30s" percentage of its total sales, according to a FactSet transcript.

As a result even if "Destiny 2" digital sales are up significantly versus the original "Density," it is highly likely overall sales will still be down materially compared to the first title.

Edit: The high-20s and mid-30s both refer to D1 digital numbers. No D2 digital numbers are being referenced here.

Had to do a double take - and yeah, they actually spell it "Density". lol

 

[Animator]

I don't know a single person in the twenty something people group I play with that bought it physical. Everyone went digital for it.

 

[Shredderi]

I know a few people who were going to buy the PC version but the delay took out all their interest eventually and they're skipping it altogether now.

I don't know a single person in the twenty something people group I play with that bought it physical. Everyone went digital for it.

Most of my friends who bought this went digital as well, but they also did that with D1 already.

 

[napata]

From the article, regarding digital as a percentage of the total sales for D1 and D2:



Had to do a double take - and yeah, they actually spell it "Density". lol

So in absolute numbers D1 outsold D2 digitally.

 

[killroy87]

"but digital"


Sequel to disappointing game sells dramatically less isnt a new trend.

Watch Dogs 1 to 2
Assassins Creed Unity to Sydicate
COD Ghosts to Advanced Warfare
Halo 4 to 5
Gran Turismo 5 to 6

...Could go on.


My own experience is a lot of my friends bought into D1's hype. Felt burnt. Didnt buy 2

Yup. digital may count for something, but maybe Destiny 2 just didn't sell as well as Activision had hoped, either. It's not like it's impossible.

 

[hemo memo]

From the article, regarding digital as a percentage of the total sales for D1 and D2:



Had to do a double take - and yeah, they actually spell it "Density". lol

This is sad. It's a great game. A transformation from the disaster start for D1.

 

[Hatefilled Vengeance]

Disappointing game as a follow-up to a disappointing game. I'd bet D3 will be a complete disaster for Activision if Bungie don't fix things fast.

 

[juicyb]

My guess would have something to do with more digital downloads this year compared to 2014, more competition in the realm of multiplayer shooters (PUBG), and a forthcoming PC release. That won't necessarily break even once all of these come into play, but theres no doubt the franchise has seen a decline.

 

[ZeoVGM]

If I had to guess, a ton of people moved to digital with this game. The landscape has changed a lot since 2014 and people know what the game is now.

Plus, the PC version.

But it's fun watching some of the concern trolling.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Whoa, that's crazy. No wonder Bungie actively asked for feedback compared to like..ever.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

I can’t predict how well exactly it will do, but I think it will do better on PC than a lot of you seem to anticipate.

The captive audience of players that use the Blizzard launcher already for WoW and Overwatch (sorry D3, HotS, StarCraft but you’re not that popular right now) is not to be underestimated.

They’ll not only be advertising hard on the launcher, but via email blast to 10s of millions of players.

Now whether the game retains players of course is going to be the real question.

 

[Kill3r7]

Bought D1 deluxe digitally, bought D2 deluxe digitally. That said, kind of surprised at the significant lower sales. What are the mass market gamers playing right besides Madden, FIFA and NBA2K? Really interested to see how the October numbers turn out.

If I had to guess, a ton of people moved to digital with this game. The landscape has changed a lot since 2014 and people know what the game is now.

Plus, the PC version.

But it's fun watching some of the concern trolling.

I feel like Activision would have said something if that were the case.

 

[Theorry]

People acting abit like it bombed.

 

[HerpDerpstreit]

D1 also launched on 4 systems not just 2.

 

[Papacheeks]

Well that's what happens when you design your game a certain way and your first base game was very light on content and didn't feel complete until it's close to last expansion(taken king).

Not surprised at all.

They made a better Destiny 1, but still didn't make the content on the base game very meaningful or long for people to keep playing.

Wonder how the breakdown for Expansion pack sales will be for this?

 

[Calm Mind]

I'm expecting a similar drop for Evil Within 2.

 

[opticalmace]

When people mention digital sales are (e.g.,) 30%, does that mean 30% of the total units sold or 30% of retail?

 

[Theorry]

D1 also launched on 4 systems not just 2.

Thats true yeah. For sure no digital sales there haha.

 

[geordiemp]

I'll have you tone down the attitude unless you have numbers yourself. Without numbers your claims are as good as mine.

Of course they are, we both dont know jack shit.

Just having fun with you.

Carry on with whatever agenda you have.

Concern trolling wil continue until we get real numbers.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

I was burned by Destiny 1, no way I was gonna buy its sequel. Not surprised others felt the same.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I’d expect Destiny 2 will have hard a larger than average digital sales ratio, but I doubt it’d be enough to offset an overall drop.

The first game would have done some damage.

 

[Exploratory]

Out of the almost 10 people I know who bought D1 at retail they ALL went digital. So did I. Not saying it's going to make up 50% but I think the digital version will have a record percentage.

 

[Poster#1]

Activision not issuing a PR about the sales numbers speaks volumes. Its definitely down.

 

[almostjuliuscaesar]

Depending on if this is about a switch to a digital trend or not, bravo at more people for staying away

 

[Bringer Of Bacon]

Turns out Destiny 2 isn’t as hot as it would first seem??

I bought Destiny 1, got burned, and will be sitting out this one

 

[Zedark]

When people mention digital sales are (e.g.,) 30%, does that mean 30% of the total units sold or 30% of retail?

Of the total, so 30% digital means 70% retail share.

 

[napata]

If I had to guess, a ton of people moved to digital with this game. The landscape has changed a lot since 2014 and people know what the game is now.

Plus, the PC version.

But it's fun watching some of the concern trolling.

More people bought D1 digitally than D2 according to Activision's numbers. I'd say the numbers are a legitimate cause for concern.

 

[Kaiken]

Good luck with the Franchise, Bungie/Acti(non)vision. Could have been great. How Bungie almost single handedly created the console multi-player to what they have in Destiny is baffling. I had such high hopes for Destiny but I'll pass on the 3rd installment.

 

[Bold One]

Not surprised at all.

There is a lot of toxicity toward the game, only surpassed by NMS.

Heck, even so-called fans put off prospective buyers in the half a dozen whinge threads that crop up daily.