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NPD Sales Results for February 2011 [Update 4: PS3 Hardware, TONS Of Games]
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Amir0x, what is with your self-respecting gamer does not buy 360 statement?
Microsoft has proven in this generation that you do not NEED an exclusive every month to sell.
It is nice to have exclusives also, but I do not believe in playing exclusives for the sake of playing with exclusives. When this generation see the success story of COD (which outsold even Halo, the biggest exclusive FPS in console history), which basically sold most in Xbox 360, you do not NEED exclusives.
And when I see the typical high-profile games most people love so much, the majority is multiplatform. I do not think I need to quote the list of games, we all know them. They are awesome, and they are not exclusives. And nobody cares about that if the game is good.
MS still has the fps/tps/racing exclusives set, aswell as maybe a new Fable, and a lot of exclusives in the XNA Indie/XBLA front. That, the Kinect itself, the entry price and the online platform of Live is exclusive enough for most gamers.
Microsoft has proven in this generation that you do not NEED an exclusive every month to sell.
It is nice to have exclusives also, but I do not believe in playing exclusives for the sake of playing with exclusives. When this generation see the success story of COD (which outsold even Halo, the biggest exclusive FPS in console history), which basically sold most in Xbox 360, you do not NEED exclusives.
And when I see the typical high-profile games most people love so much, the majority is multiplatform. I do not think I need to quote the list of games, we all know them. They are awesome, and they are not exclusives. And nobody cares about that if the game is good.
MS still has the fps/tps/racing exclusives set, aswell as maybe a new Fable, and a lot of exclusives in the XNA Indie/XBLA front. That, the Kinect itself, the entry price and the online platform of Live is exclusive enough for most gamers.
Watchtower
Banned
forgeforsaken said:
Yeah it says stop putting 3's and 4's behind your titles. Do what COD does and add subtitles ;p
Actually I have already touched on this theory in the 10 million Kinect thread, but it's very likely the longer this generation goes on, the more likely it is that a few developers become "experts" in their field and their "main franchise", in this case FPS and COD becoming the one that satisfied the fan base.
Leaving very little room for anything else, well except Halo(but that used to be the old king of the genre) making copy cat games that are very similar more redundant.
This industry needs growth and diversification, which is exactly why I fully expect Kinect to continue its success. Microsoft just nailed it.
Grinchy
Banned
I still want KZ3 and haven't bought it yet, so that translates to 3 million people who are like me.
Seriously though, I saw KZ3 in #7 and thought, "Hey they did a good job!" And then I read the thread, and I'm confused because it seemed good at first. It will be better once we get some numbers, I suppose.
Seriously though, I saw KZ3 in #7 and thought, "Hey they did a good job!" And then I read the thread, and I'm confused because it seemed good at first. It will be better once we get some numbers, I suppose.
Update?
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...Up_3_Percent_Black_Ops_Maintains_Top_Spot.php
Wii 454k
Just Dance 2 554k
"Nintendo also revealed that the Wii sold 454,000 units in the month, up over 14 percent from the year before. The new sales put the system above 35 million unit mark in the U.S. faster than any other console in history."
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...Up_3_Percent_Black_Ops_Maintains_Top_Spot.php
Wii 454k
Just Dance 2 554k
"Nintendo also revealed that the Wii sold 454,000 units in the month, up over 14 percent from the year before. The new sales put the system above 35 million unit mark in the U.S. faster than any other console in history."
magnificent83
Member
Jinfash said:
DeadSpace 2: I know it dropped, but it seems to have sold pretty well for February as well
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
I really doubt framerate has anything to do with it. Most people don't know or can't tell the difference between 30 or 30+ fps. The millions of people buying this game are buying it because the brand has more than established itself and it offers a great FPS experience. I just can't imagine anyone talking up COD, especially its framerate, any where other than GAF.lowrider007 said:
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Kinect is really killing for Microsoft. I think it will be a while before they release a new system now.
And it's almost a no-brainer at this point that it will be incorporated into the design of their new system.
Awesome. ^_^
And it's almost a no-brainer at this point that it will be incorporated into the design of their new system.
miladesn said:
Awesome. ^_^
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
What the hell is a self respecting gamer anyway? Jeez when did gaming get so serious? Self respect haha. The distinction between casual and hardcore is tenuous at best.
lowrider007 said:, not sure if serious..
Man I hate the franchise but a 60fps online shooter, what else is out there that competes?
As I said in a thread I made a while back the frame-rate is a big reason as to why this game is a as popular as it is giving it a very precise and unique feel compared to other shooters, other dev's just don't seem to be cottoning on.
I don't think frames per second matter to the average CoD gamer, not even subconsciously or indirectly.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I think that Amirox is more arguing that if you have every console, you don't need a console that doesn't have exclusives you don't like. Which is true to an extent, but how many people realistically have every console?
I have a gaming PC, and there are still games that you can't get there on 360, so it's worth it to me.
I have a gaming PC, and there are still games that you can't get there on 360, so it's worth it to me.
Watchtower
Banned
Salvor.Hardin said:
It's something hardcore gamers and elitists created in the first place to make themselves feel superior. Soon they'll be swallowing their pride and want to be part of the crowd.
It always happens at every major generational change. Then you always have the few loons that were still traumatized by the whole thing that still believe 2D Contra is and will remain the best shooter forever ;p
TheUnknownForce
Member
February was a big month for Microsoft's hardcore side: Bulletstorm, MvC3, NBA, Dead Space 2, and BLOPS's sustained selling point. Kinect continues to grab the casual audience which remained interested post-holiday season. Now if it will sustain in the long run, we'll see. Its hardware boost is expected, considering both factors.
Nintendo did fairly well, despite the odds. Hardware actually went up this time as opposed to down, which people estimate will happen. Just Dance 2 is the casual game of 2010 for Wii, and Nintendo is lucky it became a hit, and I guarantee you Michael Jackson's game was mostly Wii sales, too. No mention of Mario Sports Mix is not endearing, though; it probably sold ~250k at best. The ad was poor and the timing was bad. Thankfully for Nintendo, the game sold very well in the long run in Japan, so perhaps long legs will follow.
Sony even went up in hardware sales, also thanks to the hardcore game push this month. Killzone 3 also was a factor, that was for sure, but maybe not the biggest reason. Move is still selling, but its impact is smaller than Kinect, by far. Thankfully Sony has major releases each month moving forward, ensuring at least one big game in the Top 10 a month.
Now, next month. Nintendo not only released Pokemon B+W which will most likely get close to or be at top of next month's chart, but the 3DS will be launching in March as well. I personally think that Nintendo is releasing the 3DS now in the US rather than earlier in order to pull casual attention away from other innovative products such as Kinect and Move. Whether it will or not depends on word of mouth. Price will also be a factor.
The following games will appear next month, IMO:
BLOPS
Just Dance 2
Zumba Fitness
Michael Jackson
Dragon Age 2
MLB 2K11
Homefront
Crysis 2
Pokemon Black and White
Insert 1 or 2 3DS launch titles (if some of the above do not appear)
Nintendo did fairly well, despite the odds. Hardware actually went up this time as opposed to down, which people estimate will happen. Just Dance 2 is the casual game of 2010 for Wii, and Nintendo is lucky it became a hit, and I guarantee you Michael Jackson's game was mostly Wii sales, too. No mention of Mario Sports Mix is not endearing, though; it probably sold ~250k at best. The ad was poor and the timing was bad. Thankfully for Nintendo, the game sold very well in the long run in Japan, so perhaps long legs will follow.
Sony even went up in hardware sales, also thanks to the hardcore game push this month. Killzone 3 also was a factor, that was for sure, but maybe not the biggest reason. Move is still selling, but its impact is smaller than Kinect, by far. Thankfully Sony has major releases each month moving forward, ensuring at least one big game in the Top 10 a month.
Now, next month. Nintendo not only released Pokemon B+W which will most likely get close to or be at top of next month's chart, but the 3DS will be launching in March as well. I personally think that Nintendo is releasing the 3DS now in the US rather than earlier in order to pull casual attention away from other innovative products such as Kinect and Move. Whether it will or not depends on word of mouth. Price will also be a factor.
The following games will appear next month, IMO:
BLOPS
Just Dance 2
Zumba Fitness
Michael Jackson
Dragon Age 2
MLB 2K11
Homefront
Crysis 2
Pokemon Black and White
Insert 1 or 2 3DS launch titles (if some of the above do not appear)
Keep in mind that Killzone 3 is in one platform, while Bulletstorm is in 3.forgeforsaken said:
In the PAL charts, it has been like Killzone 3 >Bulletstorm 360 >>>>Bullestorm PS3, for 2 weeks.
Being so close in the NPD as far as positioning goes, could mean that it was similar in the US.
30SomethingGamer
Banned
looks like projectnatalfan was right all along
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Darkshier said:
oh come of it, of course most people can't tell the difference on a technical level but they can 'feel' that something is different, most of my friends don't understand how frame-rate effects games but they all love how COD feels and controls, there is a reason why the devs take the extra time out tweaking the game to run as close to 60 fps as possible, it's proven formula that they know works for them and gives the game a unique feel compared to other shooters.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
miladesn said:
Means MvC3 is around 600k, destroyed my expectations. Wii way up YoY as well.
TheUnknownForce
Member
Also, BLOPS being the top-selling game in the US is kinda asterisked by the fact that it is on every platform available, compared to Wii Play which is on only one, but that could be asterisked by the fact that it was bundled with hardware (which would remove Wii Fit and Plus, too).
What is the highest-selling, single-SKU game in the US without hardware bundled in?
What is the highest-selling, single-SKU game in the US without hardware bundled in?
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Watchtower said:
Very true.
Most people playing Halo or CoD online could be considered casual because they're not terribly stressed out about their kill/death ratio. Most college students are casual gamers. If casual gaming doesn't depend on the game you play and instead how you play it, then there is no such thing as a casual game. The people that use this distinction come off as being irritated that they're not getting 10 more brainless steroid induced shooters.
Version 3.0
Member
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Multi-console owners is a small but significant portion of the market. But I'd argue that exclusives "you don't like" isn't relevant. If the system has exclusives that sell, or more importantly, that sell systems, then the manufacturer is doing it's job. And though I find Kinect detestable, it (and its games) are filling that role quite well.
It's still just a glorified Balance Board, though, not some wave of the future or new platform.