gundamkyoukai
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I expect racing games going to be much more service base .
Like i can see the new GT being one game lasting the whole gen that get updates constantly .
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I expect racing games going to be much more service base .
Like i can see the new GT being one game lasting the whole gen that get updates constantly .
Agreed in part but service based model tends to work best if you have strong sales out the gate or start out f2p and sell season passes for cars/tracks or microtransaction. I suspect GT is the only one that can pull this off and might have to depending on sales.
Saw this post and decided to compile how racing titles have done in NPD since 2010. It has been pretty tough on the genre.
I tried pulling numbers:
2010:
NFS: Hot Pursuit: 417K
Gran Turismo 5: 400K
2011:
Forza 4: Under 350K (the thread was talking about how much of a bomb this was)
NFS: The Run: We didn't get numbers, but it was less than Hot Pursuit.
Mario Kart 7: 1+ million
2012:
Forza Horizon: We didn't get numbers, but it was sub 269K (position #10).
NFS: Most Wanted: 509K
2013:
NFS: Rvials: Under 299K
Forza 5: Under 200K
Gran Turismo 6: Under 180K
2014:
Mario Kart 8: 375K
Forza Horizon 2: 120K
Driveclub: 46K
The Crew: Over 300K
2015:
Forza 6: 195K
Need For Speed: Under 390K
2016:
Forza Horizon 3: ~150K
Welfare
Member
Horizon 3 is an improvement over FM6 as well. FM6 did 195k over 3 weeks, H2 and H3 are only the first week.
Bummer. Xcom is a great franchise.
Am I crazy nhl never goes that high?
Welfare
Member
Ranked by highest position achieved since 2010
2010: 4.) NHL 11 (360, PS3)
2011: 5.) NHL 12 (360, PS3)
2012: 6.) NHL 13 (360, PS3)
2014: 6.) NHL 15 (PS4, XBO, 360, PS3)
2013: 8.) NHL 14 (360, PS3)
2015: 9.) NHL 16 (XBO, PS4, 360, PS3)
#4 is a really good result for NHL
TransTrender
Gold Member
Super impressed GTAV is still placing after 3 years.
shinobi602
Member
Who keeps buying GTA V! lol
Literally every single person buying a new console.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
dead souls
Member
An industry being completely stagnant is impressive?
I'm going to guess that with Play Anywhere, there's still a great chunk of players that went digital, since that's a digital-only feature.
The game had amazing reviews and word of mouth, so I wouldn't worry too much about Forza Horizon 3. But whatever amonut it sold, it deserves even more since it looks fantastic.
The game had amazing reviews and word of mouth, so I wouldn't worry too much about Forza Horizon 3. But whatever amonut it sold, it deserves even more since it looks fantastic.
TransTrender
Gold Member
That's an angle, no doubt. Actually that's a pretty strong statement and I can't deny it's substantive.
you blame the industry or the consumer on this? games have reached an every person status now. general public will only chomp on the most popular franchises while ignoring everything else. that's how it is.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
I think GTA V is selling now just because of GTA Online. Regular updates and a huge Youtube following.
I held off buying it again as I had the 360 version but when it got discounted enough for me to double dip I brought it.
Square2015
Member
Did we get HW?
Bitanator
Member
But the Dragon Quest... why don't people like it
Welfare
Member
Square2015
Member
^Awesome 
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Thanks. MS is doing good in America.
Some truly amazing racers with such low numbers. Crazy
Saw this post and decided to compile how racing titles have done in NPD since 2010. It has been pretty tough on the genre.
This is missing a lot of context.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Maybe they should then try a traditional arcade racer again instead of doubling down on simulation and open-world-junk every time :/.
phant0m
Member
Doesn't include digital. Myself and 2 friends that play all bought digi for Play Anywhere.
MaulerX
Member
Almost a 50K difference is alot bigger than what I was expecting considering some people talked like it was a "barely won" month.
I bought a 12gb on sale and put in a 1TB and backed up all the games, you need to order the hard drive adapter. Its now stored in a nuclear proof bunker (or better known as my den closet).
Yeah I think this numbers are almost meaningless without digital numbers. The trend up may be seeing no the sales of a particular game but the movement to digital sales.
I only buy collector's editions with physical and usually regret it because of having to deal with the disk. the PS4 especially attractive to buying digitally since they let you put the game on multiple machines simultaneously. Additionally most physical disks won't work without some massive update on day one which means years from now if you put it into a machine it may not work unless those servers are up to give you the patch anyway. So I gave up and buy games digitally now. Except for Nintendo..especially 3ds.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I was listening to PSILY podcast and heard the NPD sales results, but I didn't believe them. This is...kinda depressing.
LOL. The most baffling thing about GAF since I've come here is the idea that if a game is well-made I have to care about it. But if I don't like sports games, it doesn't matter how great that game is.
If someone's bugged by this list, it's probably because we're watching other types of games become less successful. And when that happens, companies STOP making them. We just saw a studio who made a critically acclaimed, beloved title shut down because apparently being a million-plus seller isn't enough of an ROI to be considered worth making more of.
So when stuff like that happens, I'm supposed to be excited that NBA 2K is going to chart for the next nine months, despite the fact that I'm NEVER going to touch NBA a day in my life? That makes me "petty and foolish"? Or maybe, are you just irked that there are people who don't give a fuck about sports games and you didn't bother to check why.
I'm not saying you have to stop buying sports games--that's dumb. I'm saying I'm irked by the Top 10 for this month. Because if this list were a constant, I'd be out of gaming, and that would be sad for me.
LOL. The most baffling thing about GAF since I've come here is the idea that if a game is well-made I have to care about it. But if I don't like sports games, it doesn't matter how great that game is.
If someone's bugged by this list, it's probably because we're watching other types of games become less successful. And when that happens, companies STOP making them. We just saw a studio who made a critically acclaimed, beloved title shut down because apparently being a million-plus seller isn't enough of an ROI to be considered worth making more of.
So when stuff like that happens, I'm supposed to be excited that NBA 2K is going to chart for the next nine months, despite the fact that I'm NEVER going to touch NBA a day in my life? That makes me "petty and foolish"? Or maybe, are you just irked that there are people who don't give a fuck about sports games and you didn't bother to check why.
I'm not saying you have to stop buying sports games--that's dumb. I'm saying I'm irked by the Top 10 for this month. Because if this list were a constant, I'd be out of gaming, and that would be sad for me.
hydrophilic attack
Member
npd threads are an empty shell of what they once were
not even worse to troll in them anymore tbqh
Welfare
Member
Uh sports games, just like FPS's always top the charts. Those games you like so much either haven't been at the top in generations or never have been, yet for some reason still get made.
If that studio you are referring to is Turtle Rock, then you're wrong. They haven't shut down, they just aren't working on Evolve anymore as their contract ended. If not them then who are you referencing?
The top 10 has been a constant state of main stays for years. Nothing to get mad about.
theindieboy
Member
Wow these NPD threads have really slowed down really enjoyed them before becoming an memember but then died shortly after I got my account (after a long wait), oh well. Next month will be intresting if MS take October then Sony might be at risk of losing the US lead, also really intrested if there will be any PSVR numbers.
Welfare
Member
The PS4 Pro is releasing in November so Sony will be back to selling more units.
LordRaptor
Member
I think you're either hugely overestimating what the sales gap between 1st and 2nd place consoles will be, or hugely underestimating what the existing LTD gap looks like.
theindieboy
Member
Well the reason i am saying that is PSVR launch if they don't win that month then it does not look good imo. Also i November in the US is dominated by Black Friday sales I would imagine if MS do some really good deals that could easily result in more sales than the pro thought the gap was back down to 250K? Momentum means a lot and the Xbox S is cheap and multi purpose and has 4k stuff. Will see, personally i see Sony winning October and Novemeber but a $200 XboxS Black Friday could really move some units.
Welfare
Member
First off, PSVR is not pushing new units. The things are in low stock to begin with and the price of entry for them is $799 ($299 PS4 + $499 PSVR launch bundle). They are only selling to current owners.
Also I think you are confusing the gap. Over the past 3 months (July - September) the Xbox One has closed the gap by 172,200. Now the total gap is ~1,587,000.
You must've been getting your sales data from crapgamerreviews
theindieboy
Member
Yep clearly miss read the gap going to take a while to close a 1.5m gap, okay way off base with prevoius stuff about xbox catching up, but 4 months in a row would look really bad for sony imo. All to play for this holiday
I don't know I think not only people buying ps4 for VR but a lot of advertising for VR etc and other high profile games like Red Dead (again i know next year) during major football and walking dead would have really increased PS4 mind share this month. IMO
theindieboy
Member
I can assure you i did not, not a fan of his! I am a hardcore playstation fan with both a vita and psvr aswell as ps3 & 4 but as such I am actually happy if microsoft close the gap a bit competition is health and will force sony to react hopefully on the OS side!
Thought you were talking about the prediction thread, at first. Just realized you're just viewing the thread at 50 posts per page. You can increase that to 100 posts per page, in the User CP, if you want.
Don't think it matters if you prefer msft or sony. Each to their own, I don't judge.
However where did you get the 250k number from? Obviously not from here or ZhugeEx.
Only reason I ask is because I get a chuckle and sometimes a laugh out of crazy posters making random shit up, so if I am missing out I need to know where to go.
Because 1.5mil vs 250k is not even remotely close.
He may have been looking at the PS4-XB1 gap chart from above and mistaken the 2016 gap as the overall gap. Just guessing.