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NVIDIA has begun teasing its upcoming RTX 4000 series discrete GPUs which are expected to be unveiled at CES (Consumer Electronics Show) 2024 on January 8th. If early information is to be believed, the tech giant is likely going to unveil a trio of new Super GPUs: the RTX 4080 Super, the 4070 Ti Super, and the 4070 Super. The company updated its cover photo on the NVIDIA GeForce official Facebook page about an hour ago to start building the hype.

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Most of NVIDIA's 40 series has less VRAM than one would expect at that price point as the company has decided to stick to just using 8GB on its RTX 4060 and 4060 Ti series, which comes in at a rather expensive $300 and $400 respectively, and the 16GB 4060 Ti was priced $100 more at $500. The same was the case with the 4070 Ti as well as the $800 card had a meager 12GB frame buffer, compared to its competing AMD card, the 7900 XT, having 20GB, which is nearly 67% more memory.


Most of the tech press including Neowin criticized NVIDIA for this and the public too wasn't too happy. As a response, the company is rumored to be bumping up the memory capacity and interface on the RTX 5000 series. Meanwhile, an immediate upgrade is reportedly coming in the form of the RTX 4000 Super series. The 4070 Ti Super is expected to feature 16GB and the CUDA Core numbers are also apparently going up to 8448, up from 7680 on the non-Super.


The 4080 Super, meanwhile, is expected to still have 16GB. The GPU will purportedly have 10240 CUDA cores, up from 9728 on the vanilla non-Super. Finally, the 4070 Super is expected to see the biggest bump in terms of CUDA cores as it will seemingly pack 7168 cores. The non-Super 4070 has 5888.

 

[Bojji]

Price rumors are all over the place so far.

4070S could be 599$ or 699$.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

 

[Flutta]

Will wait for the 50XX series to think about upgrading. Think my 3080 will manage until then.

 

[Gaiff]

The actual 40 series, not the beta version we got so far.

 

[analog_future]

The actual 40 series, not the beta version we got so far.

What does that even mean lol

 

[Gaiff]

What does that even mean lol

That compared to the big die, the Super series are much closer to the usual % of the full die than the original series was. A 70 series shouldn't be losing out to the previous 80 series, nor should a 60 Ti be losing to the previous 70 series.

3060 Ti>2070/S>1080
3070>2080/S>1080 Ti

But in this strange case:

3080>/=4070
3070>4060 Ti

The 4070S should consistently beat the 3080 like the 4070 should have done in the first place and whenever they decide to release a 4060S/Ti S, they too should also be at their proper place in the hierarchy. Or at the very least, much closer to their usual spots.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

I don't think there is going to be a 4060 Ti Super. I do think the original 4070 will get a modest price cut.

 

[buenoblue]

Luckily I nearly bought a 4070 like a month ago. I'm in for a 4070 super. Be a nice upgrade from my 2070 super

 

[Diddy X]

I'll wait for 50xx series for a bigger jump from my 3060 ti

 

[Sanepar]

Everything point out for series 50XX only in 2025.

 

[danklord]

"The 4080 Super is HERE... and it's a monster!"

 

[hinch7]

That compared to the big die, the Super series are much closer to the usual % of the full die than the original series was. A 70 series shouldn't be losing out to the previous 80 series, nor should a 60 Ti be losing to the previous 70 series.

3060 Ti>2070/S>1080
3070>2080/S>1080 Ti

But in this strange case:

3080>/=4070
3070>4060 Ti

The 4070S should consistently beat the 3080 like the 4070 should have done in the first place and whenever they decide to release a 4060S/Ti S, they too should also be at their proper place in the hierarchy. Or at the very least, much closer to their usual spots.

That's what happens when there's no competition. Nvidia can cut down the SKU's as much as they want. Unfortunately for them, consumers aren't buying them.

I'm more keen to see realistic pricing from the Super series and well GPU's going forward, in 2024.. because lets face it, this generation of GPU's have been complete dog shit for cost across all stacks.

Everything point out for series 50XX only in 2025.

They aren't going to release in the very same year as a refresh. So yeah, expect a Q1 launch for the 5090/5080 earliest.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Price rumors are all over the place so far.

4070S could be 599$ or 699$.

Because the rest of the cards is already known haha.

4070 S 599
4070Ti S 799
4080 S 999

Believe

 

[struggler_guts]

Might just be sticking with this 2060super another year lol

 

[asdasdasdbb]

They aren't going to release in the very same year as a refresh. So yeah, expect a Q1 launch for the 5090/5080 earliest.

I do think Blackwell will be released this year... but only products that cost more than the 4080S does (which I assume is $1199).

 

[//DEVIL//]

I am interested to know how much closer the 4080s to the 4090.

in theory. there is a big gap between the 4090 and 4080. So it could be in the middle. or it could be closer to the 4090 more than the 4080. much like how 3080ti was closer to the 3090

 

[Gaiff]

We really had it good with Pascal, didn't we? The 1070 for $380 matched the previous flagship $700 980 Ti.

 

[PhillMeCream]

all of this hype for a refresh boost

 

[Kuranghi]

I was hoping the 4090 would come down to <£1300 when the Supers came out but now that £400-500 price hike on the 4090 has messed things up just wait for 5080/5090 and buy a Switch 2 or PS5 Pro next year to have a shiny new gaming thing which improves graphics instead.

 

[YCoCg]

all of this hype for a refresh boost

To be fair it's already mentioned above, it's because these cards will be what the normal 40xx should've been.

 

[Gudji]

40XX is also the price.

 

[DaGwaphics]

We really had it good with Pascal, didn't we? The 1070 for $380 matched the previous flagship $700 980 Ti.

That's what good competition will do for you. Even though AMD didn't have a strong high-end, Polaris forced Nvidia to release a very good price/performance 60 series card which had to exist in the lineup without cannibalizing everything else.

 

[amigastar]

I love my 4070. I will wait for the 6000 series probably to upgrade.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Might upgrade to a 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super in the next few months. Although, given Nvidia's behavior I wouldn't be surprised if these Super models don't cause any adjustment to current pricing stack. Meaning they won't offer superior perf/$ compared to existing models.

 

[PCFanboy64]

I'm pretty unhappy with my recently purchased 7800XT and thinking about looking into the 4700/4700S. The 12gb vram is what is scaring me.

 

[alucard0712_rus]

4070Ti Super is optimal choice for me. And I will forget about GPU for 2 another generations (or maybe forever lol). Even my 3070 is still running great, but 8GB is not enough for 4K.

 

[amigastar]

I'm pretty unhappy with my recently purchased 7800XT and thinking about looking into the 4700/4700S. The 12gb vram is what is scaring me.

I'm hoping Nvidia comes out with their new compressed textures soon so the 12gb vram isn't as a weak point as it is.

https://research.nvidia.com/labs/rtr/neural_texture_compression/

 

[Sleepwalker]

Got my 4080 many months ago for around $850, I'm good till the 5090

 

[Demigod Mac]

^ Every time this product branding cycle comes around, I swear....

 

[Mister Wolf]

Just buy a 4090.

 

[Buggy Loop]

All that and CES unveiling for binned cards?

 

[StereoVsn]

Will wait for the 50XX series to think about upgrading. Think my 3080 will manage until then.

Yep, have a 3080Ti and will stick with that until 5080 is out. Don’t feel like paying $1k - $1.2K for a 4080 Super with its 5-10% improvement on vanilla 4080.

 

[Senua]

Just buy a 4090.

That's kinda hard right now. Prices are insane

 

[asdasdasdbb]

I am interested to know how much closer the 4080s to the 4090.

in theory. there is a big gap between the 4090 and 4080. So it could be in the middle. or it could be closer to the 4090 more than the 4080. much like how 3080ti was closer to the 3090

It's maybe 10% faster. Probably less than that.

Might upgrade to a 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super in the next few months. Although, given Nvidia's behavior I wouldn't be surprised if these Super models don't cause any adjustment to current pricing stack. Meaning they won't offer superior perf/$ compared to existing models.

They have stopped production of the 4070 Ti and 4080 NS. The 4070 NS is staying.

 

[WitchHunter]

Anyone know the "crippled" 4090D's price in china?

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Anyone know the "crippled" 4090D's price in china?

12,999 (same as the 4090's MSRP)

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

What does that even mean lol

He's butthurt about the 40 series pricing thus far and didn't want to buy the more affordable GPUs from the competition AMD and Intel. So he's waiting to return to his wife beating husband (Nvidia) for another round, on the off chance he might actually lube up his sore behind this time.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

That's what happens when there's no competition. Nvidia can cut down the SKU's as much as they want. Unfortunately for them, consumers aren't buying them.

I'm more keen to see realistic pricing from the Super series and well GPU's going forward, in 2024.. because lets face it, this generation of GPU's have been complete dog shit for cost across all stacks.


They aren't going to release in the very same year as a refresh. So yeah, expect a Q1 launch for the 5090/5080 earliest.

Consumers will buy Nvidia regardless as the last couple financial reports show. Consumers don't give AF about AMD. The only people who buy AMD in significant numbers are console gamers cause console gamers have no choice in what they're fed.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Might just be sticking with this 2060super another year lol

Yea just wait for 50 series which launches next year Q1.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I've held onto my 3090 this long, I'll wait until 5000 series. Rumors of late 2024/early 2025 release abound for the next gen.

 

[Blackage]

I've held onto my 3090 this long, I'll wait until 5000 series. Rumors of late 2024/early 2025 release abound for the next gen.

I think the only way we're getting 5000 series this year is if AMD surprises people with their next line of graphics cards, which is to say it's not looking very likely.

Would be happy to be wrong though.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Consumers will buy Nvidia regardless as the last couple financial reports show. Consumers don't give AF about AMD. The only people who buy AMD in significant numbers are console gamers cause console gamers have no choice in what they're fed.

Don't forget about the super cheap, those AMD fire sales are unbeatable values.

 

[Celcius]

I've held onto my 3090 this long, I'll wait until 5000 series. Rumors of late 2024/early 2025 release abound for the next gen.

Same here, 3090 is still a beast

 

[Klik]

My RTX 3060TI still gets 80-100fps on higher settings with newer games on 1440p monitor. I'm alright until 5xxx series

 

[Amey]

Guru3d price leak

 

[phant0m]

Will wait for the 50XX series to think about upgrading. Think my 3080 will manage until then.

Exactly how I feel

 

[JohnnyFootball]

My 4090 still owns!

 

[diffusionx]

Guru3d price leak

The 4080 Super is basically a $200 price cut on the 4080, but that's where it should have been at launch.

 

[Bojji]

Guru3d price leak

It's from TMLiD so it's worth shit.