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'system sellers'? what is this, the 90s?
That's true but I didn't say anything about non-exclusives running poorly on PS4 so I'm not sure why you brought that up
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Because console wars.Why does a game need to be exclusive for it to be worth playing?
He has a point, there's not a lot of exclusive software for the system people are just dying to play.
You and him, him and you, take a look at the top 10s and break free from the "only exclusives matter" mindset.
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People are buying PS4s (and Xbox Ones) to play those games, and the games to come.
He has a point, there's not a lot of exclusive software for the system people are just dying to play.
'system sellers'? what is this, the 90s?
Uh, you do realize that the #1 reason why people buy a console is the games, right?
Why does a game need to be exclusive for it to be worth playing?
Uh, you do realize that the #1 reason why people buy a console is the games, right? If most multiplats come to both systems, what distinguishes them? Oh yeah, the exclusives. You can say "b-but 3rd party games run better on PS4!" but that has nothing to do with my point. All I'm saying is that there aren't enough exclusive titles to make people rush out and buy a box. PS4 doesn't have a Halo, GTA 3, or Mario 64.
It's weird how you twist me saying PS4 has no system selling exclusives this early in the life cycle into "PS4 haz no gamez." Control yourself.
How exactly do you "only exclusives matter" from this:
The main reason people buy a console is for exclusive software they can't get anywhere else. Halo moves boxes. Mario moves boxes. Uncharted moves boxes. Why do you think MS/Sony try to obtain exclusive DLC? To differentiate their 3rd party version of the game and attract consumers to their business. Putting on blinders and pretending that exclusive software doesn't matter needs to stop.
In case some posters like Gucci Messiah don't realize, we're not in the NES/Sega Master System era to the Dreamcast/PS2/Gamecube/Original Xbox era anymore in where exclusives matter & in which they were system sellers. They're now considered bonuses.
The multiplats have simply taken over. And if you have a system that's more powerful than the other console, then it's a bonus, as multiplat titles will always play better on that certain console than on the other console.
Wow, make one comment about how the PS4 doesn't have any system seller at this point in the life cycle and you'll have PS4 fans breathing down your neck..
Most people don't really care much about exclusives though (with some rare exceptions that become big system sellers; things like Halo).
And when all consoles play those games what do you think the deciding factor is? Box art?
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All i know is the PS4 is the more powerful console, delivers me the best and smoothest hardcore games experience, and the road to which they got here is paved with roses and wonderful consumer goodwill, where as MS tarnished the fuck out of themselves, greedy fucks. Perception killed the 'bone. Now they working like motherfuckers to get it back and they may just fail.
Console gaming is dead.
To play games...and to play those games (multiplatform or otherwise), they're choosing PS4 because it facilitates playing games at a better fidelity at an affordable pricepoint. Get over it.
You struggling to reconcile with that notion that people are telling you doesn't make them fanboys.
I'd be careful with your next post. Can't help but feel you're treading very thin ice.
This is amazing. I've not mentioned multiplatform performance but people keep bringing it up and beating their chests over it. PS4 is the more powerful system, that's common knowledge, I never even hinted otherwise. Not sure why I need to 'get over it' like I'm sitting here bashing Sony. I made a one sentence long post saying that PS4 doesn't have exclusives people are dying to play this early in the life cycle and get jumped on by console warriors lol.
Chad Warden where are youuuuu
*Not replying to anyone in particular*
Lets just say hypothetically, that the same games were available on X1 and PS4. There are no exclusives.
Why on earth would anyone pick the system that cost more and was less powerful.
People need to find a way to downplay the success.
Edit: Which is hilarious since we just got out of this
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This is amazing. I've not mentioned multiplatform performance but people keep bringing it up and beating their chests over it. PS4 is the more powerful system, that's common knowledge, I never even hinted otherwise. Not sure why I need to 'get over it' like I'm sitting here bashing Sony. I made a one sentence long post saying that PS4 doesn't have exclusives people are dying to play this early in the life cycle and get jumped on by console warriors lol.
You really think most people don't care about exclusive software? You know, Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Halo, Gears of War, Fable...those are just a few of the best selling franchises from last generation but people don't care about them, right? They don't influence console purchases?
Alright then.
Tbh I doubt the industry will hit last gen total hardware numbers this gen. Or even anywhere near that.
How exactly do you "only exclusives matter" from this:
The main reason people buy a console is for exclusive software they can't get anywhere else. Halo moves boxes. Mario moves boxes. Uncharted moves boxes. Why do you think MS/Sony try to obtain exclusive DLC? To differentiate their 3rd party version of the game and attract consumers to their business. Putting on blinders and pretending that exclusive software doesn't matter needs to stop.
*Not replying to anyone in particular*
Lets just say hypothetically, that the same games were available on X1 and PS4. There are no exclusives.
Why on earth would anyone pick the system that cost more and was less powerful.
You really think most people don't care about exclusive software? You know, Zelda, Mario, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Halo, Gears of War, Fable...those are just a few of the best selling franchises from last generation but people don't care about them, right? They don't influence console purchases?
Alright then.
Very impressive. I Definitely see 10 million units sold before 2015.
Doesn't feel like that to me at the moment, spend more time to on the Xbox the last couple of months due to the libraries since launch. I haven't bothered with it much since completing Infamous.
*Not replying to anyone in particular*
Lets just say hypothetically, that the same games were available on X1 and PS4. There are no exclusives.
Why on earth would anyone pick the system that cost more and was less powerful.
This is amazing. I've not mentioned multiplatform performance but people keep bringing it up and beating their chests over it. PS4 is the more powerful system, that's common knowledge, I never even hinted otherwise. Not sure why I need to 'get over it' like I'm sitting here bashing Sony. I made a one sentence long post saying that PS4 doesn't have exclusives people are dying to play this early in the life cycle and get jumped on by console warriors lol.
I haven't broken any of the ToS or anything like that.
I made a one sentence long post saying that PS4 doesn't have exclusives people are dying to play this early in the life cycle and get jumped on by console warriors lol.
I didn't attack the system or any poster in particular so I'm not sure why you're back seat modding.
Kinect, obviously.
This is amazing. I've not mentioned multiplatform performance but people keep bringing it up and beating their chests over it. PS4 is the more powerful system, that's common knowledge, I never even hinted otherwise. Not sure why I need to 'get over it' like I'm sitting here bashing Sony. I made a one sentence long post saying that PS4 doesn't have exclusives people are dying to play this early in the life cycle and get jumped on by console warriors lol.
What do I need to be careful for? Going against the dominant opinion? I haven't broken any of the ToS or anything like that. All I did is make a post saying the PS4 doesn't have any exclusive software people are dying to play. I didn't attack the system or any poster in particular so I'm not sure why you're back seat modding.
The highest selling Halo on 360 was, what, maybe 10 million units? Xbox 360 sold 80 million. The highest selling Gears, maybe 7, 8 million? The highest selling anything else exclusive on 360, what was it?
Exclusives aren't unimportant, but the average Xbox 360 owner did not own a Halo, did not own a Gears of War. They just didn't. The average PS3 owner never touched Uncharted, never came close to The Last of Us. These titles are important, but their importance is far over-emphasized among multiple console owning, forum dwelling, hardcore gamers. The average gamer isn't quite so concerned.
All i know is the PS4 is the more powerful console, delivers me the best and smoothest hardcore games experience, and the road to which they got here is paved with roses and wonderful consumer goodwill, where as MS tarnished the fuck out of themselves, greedy fucks. Perception killed the 'bone. Now they working like motherfuckers to get it back and they may just fail.
Ah, okay. Wonder why that is?
Nope.gifFor the people that keep thinking the Xbox One is nearly at 6 million. A little common sense would tell you otherwise. Microsoft said they sold 3.1 million Xbox One buy the end of 2013. NPD numbers for Jan/Feb were:
Jan: 143K
Feb: 248K
I very much doubt the UK and the few European countries the X1 is available in are matching the monthly NA sales. So let's say they're at least selling half as many console in Europe as they are in NA.
Jan: 72K
Feb: 129K
Add up everything and you get about 3.7M across both regions by the beginning of March. For the Xbox One to be at 6 million units sold, Microsoft would have to sell close to 2.3 million consoles in March. The numbers in Europe don't seem to support such a massive up tick in sales, so it would have to come down to NA to sell most of those consoles. Does that seem in any way likely to anyone?