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[Basil King]

Jim Ryan really needs to look at his own business practices before complaining. What a joke

 

[Zathalus]

Jim told him it's inadequate. All or nothing, don't accept pity in business.

Of course Jim said that. It's not in SIE financial interest to just let the deal go through.

Microsoft could likely have offered for COD to remain multiplatform indefinitely and his response would have been the same.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Jim Ryan is an inadequate loser.

My prediction: the deal will go through whether Jim Ryan likes it or not. He'll have to just suck it. And PlayStation gamers really won't lose much of actual value.

 

[splattered]

Why would they stop making COD,assuming its still selling huge?

Series has been around forever, maybe something new and fresh is around the corner? Ya never know...

 

[Hendrick's]

Xbox fans so annoyed about that exclusive content that they think taking away those games entirely from Playstation is perfectly fine and equal to what Sony did. Sweet revenge.

I'll see your Harry Potter bonus quest and, oh fuck it, CoD Xbox exclusive baby!

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Series has been around forever, maybe something new and fresh is around the corner? Ya never know...

They still haven't shelved the disaster that is Halo

COD isn't going anywhere lol

 

[KingT731]

Well neither was the first COD that will be Xbox exclusive. But Jimbo is using the logic that since COD has been on PlayStation since 2005, it should always been on PlayStation.

Xbox got FFXI, the FFXIII trilogy (and the BC version of XIII is the definitive edition of the game), FFXV, all of the remasters (FFVII, VIII, IX, X, XII) not to mention all of the KH games. But suddenly FFVII and FFXVI are exclusive. By Jimbo's own COD logic, then Xbox should still be allowed FF games, but he's preventing that with deals with SE.



Xbox got the full FF XIII trilogy. Hell SquareEnix updated the 360 FFXIII with full 4K FMVs when it went BC.

You sound silly my guy. You know damn well most of those games didn't come to Xbox until legit 2-3 years ago.

 

[Banjo64]

Yeah, console that neogaf keeps reminding us is always coming last is now the big threat to the whole industry.

I’m sorry, I don’t deal with mental gymnasts who aren’t nuanced.

 

[Sabotage]

"The kid who owns the lemon tree is only going to give me 3 more seasons of lemons, then he's just going to make all the lemonade himself"

 

[Yoboman]

That's not what Bungie says.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/50988

Note the specific wording of Destiny 2

Now I think Sony and Bungie would prefer future games on Xbox too but if COD is indicated to go exclusive, Sony can press the button at any time for Destiny 3 and Bungies new IP

 

[ShirAhava]

Sony needs to have a coke and a smile and put out MAG 2

 

[ManaByte]

 

[K' Dash]

Seeing this bitch whining gives me life, the sooner he gets out of Sony, the better.

 

[Sleepwalker]

For a forum that constantly trash talks COD, you sure love talking about it

 

[Hendrick's]

Series has been around forever, maybe something new and fresh is around the corner? Ya never know...

Cry of Obligation is going to be one hell of a new franchise.

 

[ManaByte]

You sound silly my guy. You know damn well most of those games didn't come to Xbox until legit 2-3 years ago.

What are you talking about? FFXIII launched on the 360 in 2010. FFXI was before that.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

Oh, look at this hypocrite. Paying to all those games to avoid gamepass and Xbox and then demanding a fair offer. I don't care for this that much as long as it's on gamepass, but after such comments I hope Microsoft removes it even earlier.

Sony did not pay developers to keep games from gamepass, stop this idiotic lie that all does xbochannels and twitter xbox ambassadors are telling you. You guys are easy to brainwashed by these clowns.

 

[Fredrik]

This is going to backfire so hard on Jim.

Phil is licking his lips.

He’s too much Mr Nice Guy publically to go down that path. But the gloves could come off now, I don’t think Jim are doing Playstation any favors here that’s for sure, MS hasn’t officially stated how they’re doing with several Bethesda IPs they’re now owning and now that the cat is out the bag on Activision Blizzard they can start using an assumed exclusivity scenario for PR to move the needle.

 

[Banjo64]

Microsoft will respond the best way they know how, by opening their wallet and acquiring EA.

It’s on the cards because it’ll finally make headway with the EU FIFA crowd and it’d take Apex away as well. No chance MS aren’t exploring it.

 

[Yoboman]

Well neither was the first COD that will be Xbox exclusive. But Jimbo is using the logic that since COD has been on PlayStation since 2005, it should always been on PlayStation.

Xbox got FFXI, the FFXIII trilogy (and the BC version of XIII is the definitive edition of the game), FFXV, all of the remasters (FFVII, VIII, IX, X, XII) not to mention all of the KH games. But suddenly FFVII and FFXVI are exclusive. By Jimbo's own COD logic, then Xbox should still be allowed FF games, but he's preventing that with deals with SE.



Xbox got the full FF XIII trilogy. Hell SquareEnix updated the 360 FFXIII with full 4K FMVs when it went BC.

Square Enix have a long history of.making exclusive games for various platforms and are still doing it. They have Switch exclusives as well

 

[Sosokrates]

They need cuz they are afraid the regulators block the aquisition. Thats why Spencer PR lies sound like "we all about giving player more options, and there will be less exclusives in the future" when in the backstage they working to remove multiple previous multiplatform games from other consoles.

But aparently this forum loves this shit, while MS fucks up the videogame industry, ppl are clapping, YAY more games available on my piece of plastic, that was already available on my piece of plastic anyway but you cant play them anymore in your piece of plastic.

The regulators Reasons against the acquisition are bullshit anyway.
COD is not the be all and end all of gaming, playstation is still number 1 in the gaming industry in terms of profit, and they have arguably the best first party studios, which they are expanding. Its complete bullshit that no COD would stop or impedes playstations ability to compete. Playstation will be just fine without cod.

 

[yurinka]

After all the money hatting Sony have, and continue to do, i think getting offered COD for 3 years beyond their current deal is pretty damn fair.

We don't know if Phil asked Sony to pay them a gazillion dollars or something like that to keep it there for 3 more years.

 

[pasterpl]

Also if people think that Sony birthing will change a lot, they need a reality check, these approval bodies ask questions to multiple publishers and platform holders, and as we have seen in Brazil, no one, except Sony had any problems with that acquisition.

 

[KingT731]

What are you talking about? FFXIII launched on the 360 in 2010. FFXI was before that.

Reading comprehension...see: MOST of those games. The ones that launched day/date on XB are FFF13/13-2/LR/15/KH3 and of the remasters only FF8 was Same day on Xbox

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Jim Ryan is an inadequate loser.

My prediction: the deal will go through whether Jim Ryan likes it or not. He'll have to just suck it. And PlayStation gamers really won't lose much of actual value.

Nothing should be lost.

COD is supposed to be a casual shooter for noobs and Xbox is the dude bro console of shooters anyway.

 

[Three]

Yeah, console that neogaf keeps reminding us is always coming last is now the big threat to the whole industry.

The CMA aren't idiots and they deal with different segments of the industry and look at all timeframes, short, mid and long term. The CMA aren't looking at who sold the most consoles but at predicting whether it's a company trying to drive a competitor out of a market, often by not making money in the short term to then make it once they dominate the market. The CMAs current concern is sub and cloud gaming. The deal will likely go through but this stupid "but we're third place look at our console sales" that Phil and his band of merry men only now seem to acknowledge once they have regulators breathing down their neck is nonsense when for years they have been saying Sony is not even one of their competitors and that console sales are not the driving force of their business.

 

[xHunter]

Phil was extremely fair to Jimbo, apparently offering CoD to stay on Playstation until 2028 or so. Now the deal is off the table I guess. Suck it, Jimbo

Will be even longer now since the UK Gov wont like this at all

 

[Banjo64]

Also if people think that Sony birthing will change a lot, they need a reality check, these approval bodies ask questions to multiple publishers and platform holders, and as we have seen in Brazil, no one, except Sony had any problems with that acquisition.

Really!? No one else apart from the only other console manufacturer/digital store front holder had an issue!? I’m shocked.

 

[Yoboman]

Also if people think that Sony birthing will change a lot, they need a reality check, these approval bodies ask questions to multiple publishers and platform holders, and as we have seen in Brazil, no one, except Sony had any problems with that acquisition.

Why would they? It only affects Sony who are MS's only direct competitor

 

[Tripolygon]

Do y’all realize Microsoft does not own Activision yet and Jim is doing what is required to secure a good deal for his platform? If Microsoft is required to make such concessions in order for the deal to go through. This is one of the largest acquisitions in history and requires close scrutiny.

 

[NickFire]

The regulators Reasons against the acquisition are bullshit anyway.
COD is not the be all and end all of gaming, playstation is still number 1 in the gaming industry in terms of profit, and they have arguably the best first party studios, which they are expanding. Its complete bullshit that no COD would stop or impedes playstations ability to compete. Playstation will be just fine without cod.

COD has a long history of hitting its launch dates, and by and large is very well received by the target audience and played until the next version comes out. So the regulators might be big time COD players and afraid of letting MS manage the studios that make it.

 

[pasterpl]

Really!? No one else apart from the only other console manufacturer/digital store front holder had an issue!? I’m shocked.

As far as we know Nintendo didn’t give fuck either, but now you will downplay Nintendo.

 

[3liteDragon]

Jimbo’s a gangsta

 

[Leyasu]

Phil hasn’t been reading gaf and doesn’t know about the money being left on the table next gen when this goes exclusive.

 

[Edgelord79]

Ok Jim.

Starting to border on the ridiculous if he thinks he’s going to get a 10-20 year commitment from a competitor or regulators are going to enforce this type of commitment as in effect it could open a lawsuit they could very well lose.

I’ve been pretty agnostic on this whole thing as it’s beyond my pay grade and I have both boxes, but this statement is something else.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

Do y’all realize Microsoft does not own Activision yet and Jim is doing what is required to secure a good deal for his platform? If Microsoft is required to make such concessions in order for the deal to go through. This is one of the largest acquisitions in history and requires close scrutiny.

Shhh, let them have their glee, it's been a rough year for them.

 

[ManaByte]

Reading comprehension...see: MOST of those games.

FFXI: 2006
FFXIII: 2010
FFXIII-2: 2012
FFXIII Lightning Returns: 2014
FFXV: 2016

Only the remasters/KH3 are within the last three years. The main FF releases all are older than that.

 

[Sosokrates]

COD has a long history of hitting its launch dates, and by and large is very well received by the target audience and played until the next version comes out. So the regulators might be big time COD players and afraid of letting MS manage the studios that make it.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Lots of people are reacting but not thinking, and missing what this means.

Jim Ryan rejected the proposal, this means that if the buyout is approved, Phil can now just make COD exclusive immediately.

 

[Hendrick's]

Sony did not pay developers to keep games from gamepass, stop this idiotic lie that all does xbochannels and twitter xbox ambassadors are telling you. You guys are easy to brainwashed by these clowns.

Must have been some forged document that someone inserted into the Apple - Epic leak. Very convenient.

 

[Starcheif]

 

[Arcadialane]

It looks like console wars are back on the table boys

 

[ManaByte]

Note the specific wording of Destiny 2

Bungie.net

www.bungie.net

Q. Bungie has future games in development, will they now become PlayStation exclusives?
No. We want the worlds we are creating to extend to anywhere people play games. We will continue to be self-published, creatively independent, and we will continue to drive one, unified Bungie community.

 

[mansoor1980]

"philnocchio" is a great name

he must be fuming right now...............

 

[Stuart360]

Will be even longer now since the UK Gov wont like this at all

I think Microsofts offer is basically giving Sony 5 or 6 years to make their own COD killer, which is more than fair.
We have to remember that if this deal goes through, MS will OWN Activision, and will be funding development of these games. To me getting offerd COD for another 5 years is far and beyond the 'call of duty' (he he).
Business is weird sometimes.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

As far as we know Nintendo didn’t give fuck either, but now you will downplay Nintendo.

Sony doesn't give a shit about Pokemon either. Nintendo sure as hell does though

 

[KingT731]

FFXI: 2006
FFXIII: 2010
FFXIII-2: 2012
FFXIII Lightning Returns: 2014
FFXV: 2016

Only the remasters/KH3 are within the last three years. The main FF releases all are older than that.

FFXI launched in 2002. It was on PS/PC for years before it came out on Xbox. FF7 and 9 didn't come to Xbox until 2019

 

[GHG]

After all the money hatting Sony have, and continue to do, i think getting offered COD for 3 years beyond their current deal is pretty damn fair.

I love how people say this as if Microsoft haven't done (and still don't do) their fair share of moneyhatting.

Selective memory is a hell of a thing.

 

[jorgejjvr]

On a permanent basis? Nope. They do not buy IP and permenelty take it away from userbases that enjoy them.

Temporarily? For certain games? Yes. That is an entirely different thing that the competitions and marketing authority looks at.

I cant think of a single company they have acquired that has released games on xbox after the fact.

 

[KaiserBecks]

Well three years after the current agreement would be pretty much the lifecycle of the current gen. Looks like Microsoft believes in generations, right Jim?