Playing devil's advocate here, what I imagine actually happened is likely much less sinister and this is probably the result of an uncaught code error. So in the backend, what I imagine they do is to pro-rata your existing subscription by taking value / total_days * days_left and subtract that from the upgrade fee. What probably happened there is that whoever wrote the code used some piece of data attached to the membership to get the price paid for the sub, rather than using the live store price. I could be totally wrong, but this decision seems so bizarrely bad that I'd feel it's more likely the result of an edge case in the backend handling of upgrades than an intentional decision.
I hope they fix it soon or if it does turn out to be intentional, they should get off their crack pipe and reverse it.
Wish I could, all my buddies are on playstation, and we play online every day.I glad I stop paying for PS+ long ago.
Yup, if it isn't, and this is intentional, they should be absolutely raked over the coals for this one, because it's absolutely disgusting. The only reason I think it's a mistake so strongly is that I can see how a programmer would make the mistake easily by relating to how these backends usually work.I really hope that's the case
Sony has a lot of hardcore fans that will pay is what it comes down to.I can only see this being rolled back because this is the prettiest, greediest thing I’ve ever heard of. Why are Sony like this?
Sony has a lot of hardcore fans that will pay is what it comes down to.
Do you think some people understand nuances? They don’t. It’s all war to them.Very big difference between defending a decision and believing that a decision is a mistake and will be fixed. I said in my post that if this was intentional, it is unacceptable. Have the balls to quote me next time.
They honor the purchases you made on PS3 for the PS1 games so I'm guessing this is it.Playing devil's advocate here, what I imagine actually happened is likely much less sinister and this is probably the result of an uncaught code error. So in the backend, what I imagine they do is to pro-rata your existing subscription by taking value / total_days * days_left and subtract that from the upgrade fee. What probably happened there is that whoever wrote the code used some piece of data attached to the membership to get the price paid for the sub, rather than using the live store price. I could be totally wrong, but this decision seems so bizarrely bad that I'd feel it's more likely the result of an edge case in the backend handling of upgrades than an intentional decision.
I hope they fix it soon or if it does turn out to be intentional, they should get off their crack pipe and reverse it.
They’re either incompetent at backend coding (proven multiple times) or being petty as fuck at nickel and diming their users (happened multiple times)
Take your bets.
I mean yeah. Similar to Apple fans Playstation fans are willing to put up with shit like this because they like the ecosystem that much.
Lol. I have been saying this for a while now. Between all this woke shit and greedy they have become,I swore I'll never buy a playstation shit ever again unless it's dirt cheap on PC. They are not getting money from me to play online crap. This model needs to change .If this is true, and you find me rarely saying this :
Fuck Sony
Fuck Jim Ryan
I could see this becoming a shitstorm and Sony 180°ing on this. Exactly the greedy shit we don't want to see.
But honestly, even if they just come out and say it was a mistake - we just have to take it on trust that it is. Maybe they wanted to push for this and see if they get called on it? I don't know why people give them the benefit of the doubt. We just went through this a month ago with the PS+ stacking being silently cancelled, and everyone said it was a mistake. We went through this with the $10 PS5 Horizon upgrade and everyone claimed it was a mistake until they reversed it.
I'll take Incompetence for $200, Alex.
At least you got reason to stick around. I was there for the discounts and free PS+ games but in the long run it turns out even discounted price its no match for the value I get on Steam.Wish I could, all my buddies are on playstation, and we play online every day.
I'll take Incompetence for $200, Alex.
yeah i wouldnt stay simply for the discounts or ps+ gamesAt least you got reason to stick around. I was there for the discounts and free PS+ games but in the long run it turns out even discounted price its no match for the value I get on Steam.
Good sony punishing hoarding
Not really surprised. Jim Ryan is a used car salesman if I ever saw one. I am surprised this man still has a defense force here.Been reading about this all morning. Completely indefensible.
So if you bought PS+ on an official Sony sale on their own store at a discount they offered, they are now asking for the money back lol. Yes, you read that right. If they did an end of year 33% off PS+ sale and you bought 4 years of PS+, they now want 33% x4 + the cost to upgrade to Essential / Premium, and you have to pay all of it at once for the entire duration of whatever you stacked. It's like buying the Last of Us 2 on sale for $20, and then if they put out a $10 next gen upgrade, they ask for the $40 back on top of that.
And yes, it's real. Some people stupidly bought PS+ on sale for 10 years or some shit. And now they can't even upgrade at all unless they pay back all those sale price differences x10.
There’s now recorded audio on bilibili with the HongKong help desks confirming this is the deal and to pay the difference. But I’ll take the $200 and roll the dice on a rollback of this policy in the next 24 hours in double or nothing.
People are actually posting screenshots of stacked until 2032 and the massive differences, fuck me.
There’s now recorded audio on bilibili with the HongKong help desks confirming this is the deal and to pay the difference. But I’ll take the $200 and roll the dice on a rollback of this policy in the next 24 hours in double or nothing.
People are actually posting screenshots of stacked until 2032 and the massive differences, fuck me.
The guy who sat on his controller and did it on accident.Who the fuck stacks subs until 2032, jesus h. christ.
Makes no difference for you if you stacked PS Now. This is for those who have stacked PS+ with no other membership. Been converted to PS Essential then wanting to upgrade to PS Extra or Premium.I hope so. Would make the few years of PSNow I went and bought a complete waste of time. Mine would be an interesting almost impossible case to calculate if this isn't a bug. I bought the codes heavily discounted by a third-party, how much did the codes originally sell for when purchased from Sony?
Makes no difference for you if you stacked PS Now. This is for those who have stacked PS+ with no other membership. Been converted to PS Essential then wanting to upgrade to PS Extra or Premium.
2032? LmaoWho the fuck stacks subs until 2032, jesus h. christ.
Buying PS+ directly from Sony on their own sale = "trying to pull a fast one."Normally I would be like wtf but alot of those people knew this PSN revamp was coming and tries to pull a fast one. For the legitimate people who stacked their subscription I feel for em but the circumventors I could care less because now the honest people they are being penalized for this.
As a society people have turned into trying to get over on people no matter what and then expect the ones they trying to get over on to go along with it lol.
Why anyone would be so dumb to do this is beyond me.There’s now recorded audio on bilibili with the HongKong help desks confirming this is the deal and to pay the difference. But I’ll take the $200 and roll the dice on a rollback of this policy in the next 24 hours in double or nothing.
People are actually posting screenshots of stacked until 2032 and the massive differences, fuck me.
It doesn't affect you. At the moment it releases in your region you'll have Now so will be migrated to PS+ Premium. Since you'll have both Plus and Now active at the moment of the release, the expiration date of your PS+ Premium will be the longest one of the two: 2028. You won't have to pay anything, you'll have PS+ Premium until 2028.Wait.......so about 2 years I bought a bunch of ps+ subs at a discount from CDKeys that staked till 2028.
Back in Dec 2021, I subed to 1 year of PS Now.
How does this affect me???????
Lol. I have been saying this for a while now. Between all this woke shit and greedy they have become,I swore I'll never buy a playstation shit ever again unless it's dirt cheap on PC. They are not getting money from me to play online crap. This model needs to change .
I just can’t see it honestly, it makes no sense