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PS VR2 to add PC support in 2024 (currently in testing)
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Rudius
Member
I used IVRY for PSVR1 on Steam VR. It works well for cockpit games like racers, but not for something that needs VR controllers.Ah that. Valid point, sorry.
But this isnt a PC limitation. Its an optimisation process which can be adressed by a new PSVR2 firmware.
If Sony is going to mandate a PS5 as a bridge, than all has been for nothing.
Up until now it was a modding project. Now Sony is going to have a go. I dont see problems in the future and think it will work the same as the Quest.
Maybe with a Sony frontend needed, but that's fine.
The only limitation now is the know-how of the modding community.
iVRy is for a huge range of VR capable devices, not dedicated to PSVR2. The current PSVR2 driver is a mutation of the old PSVR driver if im not mistaken and that one even never worked flawlessly on PC.
Even if you have a Skullsplitter 5000 high end rig, it wont run properly. The drivers are emulation heavy.
Let Sony do it. they know how this thing is built.
With official PSVR2 support from Sony I expect to be able to use the Sense controllers just like on PS5, perhaps missing only the support for the adaptive triggers, since that would be game dependent.
Mibu no ookami
Member
That's just fanboys. There are millions of new PC gamers every day who don't hold any sentiment towards Steam.
I just created a thread about it, but people should stop comparing publishers to storefront owners. They aren't the same.
Rudius
Member
I can't see how are they going to fake eye-tracking without the hardware.
Maybe Apple Vision Pro will just speed up the release of Quest 4 with eye-tracking next year.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Give me that PC library, they've got a sale
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
In all fairness I think they’re stretched too thin.
Even PS5 isn’t cranking out the volume of past PlayStations.
PSYGN
Member
Maybe this is their escape hatch out of lack of sales or PS5 VR support... but I'm cool with this outcome over collecting dust.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
NO WAY. I will absolutely get the headset if I can play my Steam VR games with it! And I’ll subsequently buy bespoke PSVR games on my PS5 because of that. Huge W for Sony and consumers if this turns out to be for reals.
GHG
Member
I hope it works smoothly with Steam games like their Dualsense
Would be a bonus if it works with Edge browser
Hopefully they get it implemented with SteamVR like every other VR headset on PC, that way it will work seemlessly.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If a PC gamer waits a year or two, not only does Sony do software ports, but hardware ports too. And that excludes day one GAAS.
Totoki wasnt kidding about being more aggressive with PC. He was just being vague in his executive PR the other day. But today was the day to talk PSVR2 for PC.
Totoki wasnt kidding about being more aggressive with PC. He was just being vague in his executive PR the other day. But today was the day to talk PSVR2 for PC.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Let's break that down
- PSVR2 has only been on the market for 1 year yet has
- Gran Turismo 7
- Resident Evil Village
- Resident Evil 4
- No Man's Sky
I do think they're stretched thin, but I think your argument is disingenuous. Please show me how many 1st party hits Sony has released on PS1-4 in the same time. With or without the pandemic, Sony is actually rattling off more big games than they ever have before.
AREYOUOKAY?
Member
You see I told you. The PSVR 2 is now saved.
Now there’s a reason for me to buy it.
Now there’s a reason for me to buy it.
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Minsc
Gold Member
It's still gonna need you to wire it to a PS5. Going by the headline it says:
"testing the ability for PlayStation VR2 players to access additional games on PC"
PS VR2 players are not people with a PC and without a PS5, to be a PSVR 2 player you must also have a PS5.
If they wanted to sell it as a solution for PC gamers to use a PSVR2 on their PC they would have said it differently imo. This totally reads as a solution to get PC games streaming on the PS5 then output to the PSVR2 to me.
"testing the ability for PlayStation VR2 players to access additional games on PC"
PS VR2 players are not people with a PC and without a PS5, to be a PSVR 2 player you must also have a PS5.
If they wanted to sell it as a solution for PC gamers to use a PSVR2 on their PC they would have said it differently imo. This totally reads as a solution to get PC games streaming on the PS5 then output to the PSVR2 to me.
GHG
Member
What is a PCVR?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I dont think that's the case.
If it was just about getting extra PC only VR games playing on a PS5+PSVR2, that's nothing special to even blog about. That's just getting PC VR ports for PSVR2.
Minsc
Gold Member
How is streaming Alyx and other PC VR games to your PS VR2 nothing special? That's something new and exciting for anyone with a PSVR2 and PC but no other HMD.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Where does it say PSVR2 will stream HL Alyx?
Minsc
Gold Member
Um, the part about giving access to additional PC games to PSVR2 players does imply it would be giving PSVR2 players access to additional PC VR games, such as perhaps HL Alyx and others.
Neofire
Member
Instead of them announcing 1st party games coming to it they go and waste money on this lol. Bought this for my son he his choices are limited and Sony isn't helping the issue. Mark thos post, once they do the leg work and add support hackers and modders are going to go to work on it and bust it wide opem like a 40 dollar prostitute.
Neofire
Member
Doesn't that require a capable PC?
MonkeyClaw36
Member
The first damn sentence:
How do you see your "vision" become a reality? Where is the PS5 named in this?
- Stream PC titles to PS5 and put more strain on the system?
- Access a remote PC or cloud streaming service just for VR?
- Fire up Steam, login to your PS5, link accounts whatever?
No. The simple answer is you're wrong.
The simplest option is the obvious one. Make the headset compatible with pc. Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction.
Let me break this one down:
Additional games on pc. Not games available on pc. BIG difference.
So in your right mind you honestly think they would opt for a complicated multi ecosystem passthrough solution which shreds bandwidth and processing power on 2 devices?
Nah mate, it'll be a driver package, a piece of software and MAYBE a small breakout box to complement the CPU inside the PSVR2.
Modders have already got the PSVR2 to work-ish on pc with only the headset and their brains. Sony can do this without creating a streaming platform of some kind. Since VR is latency dependent, this shouldn't even be an option.
PSVR2 on Windows
If they are smart, they open up the headset for pc gaming and not the other way round.
It will increase sales dramatically if it becomes PC compatible.
Pc gamers care for quality hardware. That's what the PSVR2 is.
I don't think there is a big audience the other way round.
The already relatively small VR userbase on PS5 wont generate as much income for say, a VR subscription as the PC VR userbase will by buying the headset.
It's all about the money.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
That’s impossible knowing development times are far longer than ever before. And PS2 wasn’t loaded with cross gen games, remasters, and timed exclusives. It was 100% new games.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It implies that if you also have a gaming PC - you’ll be able to use PSVR2 on it.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Cross gen or not, they've produced more big titles in the first 4 years of the PS5 than they probably did the entire PS2 generation.
People pretend like Sony was cranking out AAA games during the PS2 generation.
They had GT3, GT4, God of War 1 and 2, and Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, and Sly Cooper. The rest of the games weren't really heavy hitters and I'm being generous adding Sly Cooper to the list.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Meta Quest 2 is like 20 million units.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Smart move by Sony. Even smarter if they make it really open, like you can use it with Steam, GOG etc. (not just with the upcoming Sony storefront on PC obvsly)
GHG
Member
Well yeh, that goes without saying. Don't know if you'll also need the PS5 though, would make the whole thing pointless if that's the case.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
They were all heavy hitters for their time.
You’re trying to create rules on what’s allowed to count as a release, when my comment was about first party games period.
Most people would happily trade those “AAA” remasters for another Socom, Dark Cloud, or Ico.
nemiroff
Gold Member
If you're not already in the ecosystem why would you buy a PSVR2 when there are already better PC alternatives.
Good decision by Sony btw. I guess they didn't have a choice by this point so-to-speak. Good for PSVR2 owners anyhow.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Minsc
Gold Member
The first damn sentence:
How do you see your "vision" become a reality? Where is the PS5 named in this?
- Stream PC titles to PS5 and put more strain on the system?
- Access a remote PC or cloud streaming service just for VR?
- Fire up Steam, login to your PS5, link accounts whatever?
No. The simple answer is you're wrong.
The simplest option is the obvious one. Make the headset compatible with pc. Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction.
Let me break this one down:
Additional games on pc. Not games available on pc. BIG difference.
So in your right mind you honestly think they would opt for a complicated multi ecosystem passthrough solution which shreds bandwidth and processing power on 2 devices?
Nah mate, it'll be a driver package, a piece of software and MAYBE a small breakout box to complement the CPU inside the PSVR2.
Modders have already got the PSVR2 to work-ish on pc with only the headset and their brains. Sony can do this without creating a streaming platform of some kind. Since VR is latency dependent, this shouldn't even be an option.
If they are smart, they open up the headset for pc gaming and not the other way round.
It will increase sales dramatically if it becomes PC compatible.
Pc gamers care for quality hardware. That's what the PSVR2 is.
I don't think there is a big audience the other way round.
The already relatively small VR userbase on PS5 wont generate as much income for say, a VR subscription as the PC VR userbase will by buying the headset.
It's all about the money.
I don't have any issues with latency on a Quest 3. But the wording is very non-specific, however I do agree the first quote about "testing PC support" is more in the direction you're pitching, however the rest of the quotes to me do make it sound like a streaming solution. "the ability for PlayStation VR2 players to access additional games on PC" really does sound like PSVR2 users having access to games not on PSVR2. So PC games. That means games not on the PS Store, aka PC VR games, aka HL Alyx etc.
Why would PS VR2 users care about a platform on PC that just enables them to play the same exact games that are on the PS Store on the PS5?
GHG
Member
It should just be a single cable.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Single USB-C cable.
onnextflix5
Member
When did quest 2 require pc,
Mibu no ookami
Member
Dark Cloud and ICO two games that didn't sell well... people weren't buying those games man.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
For more than potato graphics.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It doesn’t. But it’s the absolute best bang for the buck for PCVR. One cable connection, and there’s a Steam app available to play your PC games.
PC gamers use Quest for VR.
