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[remember_spinal]

I don’t even think that Day Before game is a real game.

And two of them look like hardcore survival games not multiplayer objective shooters. The only thing close to what TLOU Online would be is probably Division Heartland

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

If the upcoming Call of Duty was released as a new IP it would sell less. Undeniable.

Of course no IP can truly cover up for a game with shit design.

But it’s not a simple binary of IP does/doesn’t matter. More complicated than that.

IP gets more people to check out a game. IP does not get people to stick with a game.

That's why it's so prevalent in AAA single player and basically meaningless in modern GAAS titles.

 

[kyliethicc]

IP gets more people to check out a game. IP does not get people to stick with a game.

That's why it's so prevalent in AAA single player and basically meaningless in modern GAAS titles.

CoD
GTA
Fortnite
Minecraft
Destiny
FIFA
NBA2K
MLB
R6
FF14
etc

far from meaningless

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Halo was/is a pretty big IP. How did that go?

You use 343i and Halo to prove your point?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

CoD
GTA
Fortnite
Minecraft
Destiny
FIFA
NBA2K
MLB
R6
FF14
etc

far from meaningless

You listed a bunch of brand new IP and a bunch of good games who happen to have a well known IP attached.

Look at FF14. The IP did nothing to prevent it from crashing and burning when it first launched. No one cared that it was a Final Fantasy game because it wasn't fun to play. Everyone moved on overnight. Square Enix fixed it by making it a better game, not by tricking people into thinking the IP was better.

I will grant you that IP matters in sports games. They're most like single player in that way.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

You use 343i and Halo to prove your point?

Yeah. Big IP. Tons of marketing.

Bad multiplayer game so it stumbled immediately out of the gate and never stopped stumbling.

 

[kyliethicc]

You listed a bunch of brand new IP and a bunch of good games who happen to have a well known IP attached.

Look at FF14. The IP did nothing to prevent it from crashing and burning when it first launched. No one cared that it was a Final Fantasy game because it wasn't fun to play. Everyone moved on overnight. Square Enix fixed it by making it a better game, not by tricking people into thinking the IP was better.

I will grant you that IP matters in sports games. They're most like single player in that way.

I never said it’s simple yes/no binary, like you.

You’re missing the point.