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[James Sawyer Ford]

If Nintendo doesn’t find a way to sue, their other entities will be ripped off. Personally speaking, ai generated content that used other artist work as a base for training the model is straight plagiarism.

Wouldn’t this be akin to, say, taking the voice of a voice actor without their permission and using AI to generate the entire dialogue that sounds like a celebrity?

If they truly fed AI a bunch of Pokémon to tweak slightly for their game, that sounds like a similar situation

Had they used no input of Nintendo data, it would be much harder to argue the case

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

This Del Walker guy is a Character Artist that's been at ND for just a bit over a year. He sounds like a 14yo and those tweets are so insufferably dumb that I just can't fathom how someone with any self-awareness at all would actually put those tweets out in public.

Really not a good look.

Regardless, many folks in here are equating one idiotic artist at a studio with the perspective of the entire studio. That's just as puerile and juvenile as this goon's tweets.

 

[GHG]

This is perfect in pretty much every way.

 

[clarky]

How exactly does a game dev "cheat"?

By releasing the same game over and over again.

 

[SirKicksalot]

What do you mean you can't make that TLOU multiplayer game? Pocket Pair was able to do this at home! With a box of Hot Pockets!!!

 

[blue velvet]

Amid this success, the game has sparked debates about plagiarism and the use of AI-generated content, with a developer from Naughty Dog claiming that Palworld was created nefariously.

• Palworld’s ability to break so many records has made it the subject of controversy.
• Many believe the game’s foundations have been built on plagiarism.
• A developer from Naughty Dog also chimed in, claiming that the developers are cheating.

Source

Love seeing these slopmakers getting mogged by some unknown developers and being succesful at it. Imagine wasting 5 years 200 million dollars for some movie game and getting outsold by a pokemon/ark ripoff. I'm enjoying the outraged by these ESG certified developers.

 

[Moneal]

Del Walker wasn't being sarcastic.

didn't that accuser admit to faking it?

 

[Fabieter]

The "cheat" is that they represented palworld as a pokemon game not a pokemon like. Even their slogan screams pokemon so they are basically use all of the built in pokemon hype but on steam. Every streamer I watched saw every pal as a pokemon so basically they used a decade old ip to sell their game.

 

[rofif]

It’s an obvious kids scam game

 

[ahtlas7]

Only I can be successful! Me! Me! Me! Everyone else is cheating!

 

[Exede]

Gimme a second, need to google nefariously first.

 

[Moneal]

The "cheat" is that they represented palworld as a pokemon game not a pokemon like. Even their slogan screams pokemon so they are basically use all of the built in pokemon hype but on steam. Every streamer I watched saw every pal as a pokemon so basically they used a decade old ip to sell their game.

what slogan?

 

[Exede]

I dont care.... The game is fun. When nothing got used 1:1 im fine. They made a shit ton of money to hire more people to replace stuff when they want

 

[Sw0pDiller]

So many assumptions in this tread its crazy. The hate is real. Palworld is clearly a pokemon meets fortnite spin-off. And while i love the succes this game has, its not fair.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

How to make yourself a stupid clown in front of a global audience in three simple steps. Brought to you by Sony Twitter Interactive.

 

[10101]

The salt fuelled jealousy in these tweets is real.

Made even funnier by the fact that he says they are cheating after his bosses have been rereleasing the same shite, unnecessarily for years and cashing in - amazing lack of awareness

Cheats or not, they have released a product that people want and fair play to them.

 

[gaming_again]

Sarcasm is dead on the internet, cause y'all are too stupid to see/read it.

I thought only redditors in r/Palworld are the idiots, and then you post it on GAF and the replies are the same too.


Wait, what? He was being genuine with the way he said it? That was line-by-line sarcasm, because the only other explanation is that the person who wrote it is stupid and lacks self-awareness, and the way it's written could only have been sarcasm, unless he's really, really that stupid.

He works for a western AAA games studio in 2024.

 

[sendit]

If you're a developer and not using AI, you're behind. Hell, if you're in any corporate environment and not using AI, you're behind.

 

[gaming_again]

So many assumptions in this tread its crazy. The hate is real. Palworld is clearly a pokemon meets fortnite spin-off. And while i love the succes this game has, its not fair.

Why is it not fair? Who makes these rules?

 

[Fabieter]

what slogan?

Go catch them all on Xbox Series S”

 

[bender]

Who makes these rules?

 

[10101]

He works for a western AAA games studio in 2024.

Says it all really…

 

[StueyDuck]

Palworld and palworld haters and palworld fans have already become the most insufferable shit of 2024

Anyone else just tired now.

 

[Stooky]

all this for a game thats ripping off pokemon. peak gaf. if this game is still on steam in a month ill be surprised.

 

[PnCIa]

We need a corporate shill emoticon here.

 

[Three]

How exactly does a game dev "cheat"?

It's a character artist making a sarcastic comment on twitter that a game heavily lifted character art from another game. It's not that deep.

 

[systemr123]

You'd think a derivative game maker would be happy when another derivative game maker finds success.

Nah, that wouldn’t be derivative

 

[amigastar]

Palworld looks to me as if it for the most part was made by AI. I don't really dig the artstyle.

 

[SJRB]

The guy has the fucking Palestinian flag in his twitter name and wants to talk about nefarious?

Literally says "I have no proof, but"?

Get the fuck outta here. I can only assume Naughty Dog HR department sends this dude an email today.

 

[Fabieter]

You'd think a derivative game maker would be happy when another derivative game maker finds success.

Would you happily share the stuff you made popular? Come on no palworld fan would actually do that.

 

[Borowski_1]

At least it was not cancelled cof

 

[cormack12]

Meanwhile as Palworld develop another patch at their HQ

 

[Fart Knight]

 

[Aenima]

Meanwhile as Palworld develop another patch at their HQ

Clever use of Gif, for the one that know the name of the movie.

 

[Boss Mog]

If some woke Palestinian flag virtue signaler and some purple haired degenerate said so, then it must be true.

 

[Majormaxxx]

If some woke Palestinian flag virtue signaler and some purple haired degenerate said so, then it must be true.

I don't see what the flag has to do with anything.

 

[Boss Mog]

I don't see what the flag has to do with anything.

It's virtue signaling. Well, un-virtuous virtue signaling, but I guess that's the case with most virtue signaling.

 

[ZehDon]

It's a character artist making a sarcastic comment on twitter that a game heavily lifted character art from another game. It's not that deep.

Given the studio's own history of character "inspiration", I'd personally leave it alone if it were me. But I can see the sarcasm now that you've pointed it out.

 

[IllegalLemon]

Amid this success, the game has sparked debates about plagiarism and the use of AI-generated content, with a developer from Naughty Dog claiming that Palworld was created nefariously.

• Palworld’s ability to break so many records has made it the subject of controversy.
• Many believe the game’s foundations have been built on plagiarism.
• A developer from Naughty Dog also chimed in, claiming that the developers are cheating.

Source

They should start putting out games more frequently and not remakes and remasters, oh and, also remedy their own crunch culture, before even thinking about judging the successes of others and how their game design is achieved. Until then, they ain't in any position to make such judgements and remarks.

 

[Ar¢tos]

The salt fuelled jealousy in these tweets is real.

Made even funnier by the fact that he says they are cheating after his bosses have been rereleasing the same shite, unnecessarily for years and cashing in - amazing lack of awareness

Cheats or not, they have released a product that people want and fair play to them.

They have to. They will continue releasing the same game until they have figured out the perfect, most shocking and gruesome way to kill Ellie at the start of TLOU3, and somehow blame it on the TLOU1 giraffe at the very end of the game, all this for our enjoyment!

 

[Topher]

didn't that accuser admit to faking it?

Who? The guy who tweeted it?

 

[Negotiator101]

TLOU2 sold 4 mil the weekend it released. Palworld sold 5 mil. TLOU2 sold for $60 and Palworld for $27.

One game had a budget of 200M+ and a huge marketing push, and one had a 7M budget and no marketing at all.

What do you think was a more profitable venture?

Hoe dare you say anything negative about PS owned Naughty Dog to James shill Ford.

 

[cartman414]

Guy has a Palestinian flag in his handle. Tells you all you need to know about him and how much regard shuold be given to whatever bullshit he says.

Has he said anything antisemitic?

 

[Moses85]

 

[YCoCg]

It’s an obvious kids scam game

A scam game that's cashing in on an idea Game Freak should've done a long time ago.

 

[cartman414]

It's virtue signaling. Well, un-virtuous virtue signaling, but I guess that's the case with most virtue signaling.

No. That would be anyone playing the anti-semitism card against anyone criticizing the Israel government.

 

[cripterion]

Suicide Squad and Last of Us Online you say...

 

[midnightAI]

They already sold 8 million copies in just 6 days. The development was much cheaper, and they didn't spend nearly as much as ND to market it. They probably profited more than most, if not every, ND games (individually) already.

Let's face it though, the only reason this has got any traction is because it really is 'Pokemon with guns'

 

[Roberts]

I work in film and advertising and this happens all the time and it is not neccessary cheating. On one hand you have a bunch of industry pros working with bigger budgets, tons of pressure from clients and producers, spending ages to create something special and when it comes out, it fizzles out and then you have somewhat ignorant (to how system works) people working purely fueled up on enthusiasm and the right idea (even if it is not original) and capture the attention of the public. You might say they are lowering the bar somewhat but they are not cheating.

 

[Majormaxxx]

It's virtue signaling. Well, un-virtuous virtue signaling, but I guess that's the case with most virtue signaling.

How is the plight of these poor souls un-virtue?