It's all in the wrist
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This game will look good. The scope is tiny compared with modern games.
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Resident Evil 4 Remake, initially announced for next-gen only, will also come to PS4
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GymWolf
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Ok but you have to wait until i have my anal bleaching appointment.
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Negotiator101
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We've had games running at very low resolution on X1 that's not going to stop it releasing. More likely its a sales thing with the PS4 being the dominant platform, presumably they don't expect the Xbox One version to sell well.
Iced Arcade
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what a weird fucked up gen this is.
GymWolf
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It looks nextgen compared to tekken 7 (but tekkne 7 looked like crap, let's be real), but if you do a close up of the models, they are far from nextgen.
it looked to me like the lighting and effects were doing the heavy work on that trailer.
Don't get me wrong it looks good, but nextgen? do i have to repost the less than tertiary npcs of horizon fw once again? you have to put everything in perspective, tekken only renders 2 characters and a background at any given time.
I'm sorry but you are never gonna convince me that this thing looks nextgen (and to me the models are the most important thing in a beat em up)
(and this is from a cutscene)
like i said, it seems like the effects and ligths are doing the heavy work
But we are off topic, better continue in the t8 topic.
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GymWolf
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i'm sorry?And to think they all laughed at MS approach before these consoles launched
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah, its the rain particle effect and lighting doing all the heavy lifting. HFW looks like trash whenever its raining.It looks nextgen compared to tekken 7 (but tekkne 7 looked like crap, let's be real), but if you do a close up of the models, they are far from nextgen.
it looked to me like the lighting and effects were doing the heavy work on that trailer.
Don't get me wrong it looks good, but nextgen? do i have to repost the less than tertiary npcs of horizon fw once again? you have to put everything in perspective, tekken only renders 2 characters and a background at any given time.
I'm sorry but you are never gonna convince me that this thing looks nextgen (and to me the models are the most important thing in a beat em up)
(and this is from a cutscene)
Game can look better. I suspect MK12 will look far better than this. But im not expecting Matrix quality character models from a 60 fps game even if they target 1080p 60 fps.
GymWolf
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No, the game should look infinitely better, it should look like the most photorealistic thing on the market.
I'm not sure why you don't take in account how few things it has to render against literally almost every genre.
Matrix has to render an entire fucking city plus dozens of npcs, imagine if all the resources were used to just render 2 pg and a background...
60 can't be THAT taxing when the difference in genre is so fucking big.
I would be curious to see one of the big graphical wizards making a beat em up just to see how much detail they can put on the characters, imagine ND doing that
I expect big things from the next mk yeah, their previous game was easily the best looking beat em up (same fo injustice 2)
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Astral Dog
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This doesn't shock me , this is still just an updated RE4 on REngine, they could work it cross gen gameplay wise without much problem. though im surprised the PS4 version wasn't cancelled by now.
Other game i was expecting to include a last gen version (cancelled or not) was FFXVI, but we will see
Other game i was expecting to include a last gen version (cancelled or not) was FFXVI, but we will see
93xfan
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There’s nothing wrong with the words in your post. I’m just basing this off your history of searching for any slightly positive Xbox post to put in a laugh emoji (even in Xbox only threads).
If you’re turning a new leaf, then great. I’ll take your posts more seriously.
Umbasaborne
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Pretty bummed about cross gen, because it will mean the levels need to be built with loading hallways in mind. But whatever, not a huge deal. Cross gen will probably be here for most of this generation. Very few if any games will actually take advantage of the new hardware in a meaningful way. That being said, why are sony and other companies being so sneaky about this? Why not just announce its coming to last gen to during the initial announcement?
Fattious Floyd
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I totally agree! Like maybe a slight difference in raytracing or particle effects...so who really cares? Until Sony can get more consoles to market, this is the new normal for the time being.
Gambit2483
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Is anyone surprised? The last gen milking will continue as long as Current gen hardware sales are in the crapper, especially for Japanese companies
sachos
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Its not only about graphics, its about game design in itself properly targeting the MUCH MUCH superior CPU and Storage of next gen machines.
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Kazekage1981
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Xbox One X is more than capable. I understand Xbox One has really aged.. but wtf?
TheInfamousKira
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REmakes have traditionally been looser with geographical accuracy to their originals, which make the Remakes seem less like "firing up an old title you've played millions of times," and more like you're experiencing an adaptation.
Were it something more 1:1, I could see this point of view, but
MatrixReloaded101
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We will continue to see cross gen games until the end of next year. The install base for next gen consoles isn’t big enough yet for publishers to want to make nex gen only games.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I think they know what they are doing is wrong and people are going to riot and/or dismiss a game if they see it revealed as a last gen game. So they hide and stealth drop the cross gen announcement months later.
RE8 Village was announced the same way. Next gen only until the last gen versions were announced. HFW, Miles, GOW, GT7 were all announced as PS5 titles first. Even Returnal's steam deck version has been leaked. That means it can run on a PS4 since the GPU is so similar in tflops.
At the end of day, its classic preemptive damage control. You never want to announce a new game and have its controversy overshadow the reveal.
Buggy Loop
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Dirk Benedict
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Graphics whores:
Nah, but it's disappointing.
Buggy Loop
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So all this IO tech will be for next gen it seems, to be fully utilized.. maybe a few games managing to squeeze something exceptional by end of gen.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Yeah, I think people hear some of us fussing about cross gen and think it equates to us all being ADHD squirrels, but it affects more than visuals. It affects performance, it affects game design (smaller levels, or more zones, more loading, lots of those "squeeze through gap so we can load the rest of the area without going to a black screen," less populated cities, less verticality in levels, I mean...yeah, the differences aren't SO huge that I'm trashing my PS4, but I mean, crossgen means compromise so that both demographics get as close to a consistent experience as one another. So like...why not just stick with the PS4 if all we're getting is PS4 games?
Dirk Benedict
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
VN1X
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Hahahah GAF is so out of touch.
Yes because the game launches on PS4 you'll miss out on 6 polygons worth of fidelity with the current-gen version. My god...
When these things go into production they know well in advance what the scope, budget and general vision for a game is. Especially in the case of a remake. You're not missing out on anything lol. If anything it's the PS4 folk who are getting shafted as that version, while no doubt serviceable, will come with plenty of concessions.
Yes because the game launches on PS4 you'll miss out on 6 polygons worth of fidelity with the current-gen version. My god...
When these things go into production they know well in advance what the scope, budget and general vision for a game is. Especially in the case of a remake. You're not missing out on anything lol. If anything it's the PS4 folk who are getting shafted as that version, while no doubt serviceable, will come with plenty of concessions.
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KellyM
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It is because of the xbox one s...they could get it running easily on Xbox one x but not S,
MarkMe2525
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Kind of hard to ignore that install base. This game wasn't doing anything to push the cpu as is, so it makes sense to lower graphical settings and make a last gen version.
John Wick
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Another One! Jimbo and those exclusivity deals.......
Hobbygaming
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ValiantTraveler
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Good.
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01011001
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if it runs on PS4 it can also run on Xbox One.
these console use almost the same hardware, and turning down graphics is the easiest thing to do in a modern engine.
in fact, the Xbox One has a faster CPU than the PS4, which is way more of a factor in porting games than the slightly slower GPU.
the only situation in which it would be on the edge of not doable would be if it turns out that the PS4 version rund at 720p30fps, which I doubt it will.
the Xbox One can run anything the PS4 can run at 30% to 40% lower resolution with minimal to no other changes needed.
finally, it runs on RE Engine... which is already an engine that runs perfectly fine on Xbox One
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Moses85
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lostinblue
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Resident Evil 2 for PC basically ran on a potato with integrated graphics.
I'm sure they realized that with this engine they could run the game on PS4 on PC low settings or something (it's probably higher than that) and some extra loadings. It's not the same as Xbox 360 getting ports of next gen and PC games in 2013/2014.
But the real reason is down to active userbase I feel.
I'm sure they realized that with this engine they could run the game on PS4 on PC low settings or something (it's probably higher than that) and some extra loadings. It's not the same as Xbox 360 getting ports of next gen and PC games in 2013/2014.
Yes, but 1.2 Tflops to 1.84 Tflops is a bit steep (Base PS4 basically has 1/3 of extra performance), I can understand Xbox One falling off the wagon as it would be a consistently worse version. But then again, the One X wouldn't.
But the real reason is down to active userbase I feel.
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Boaty McBoatface
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So why not xbone? Not that I give a shit just curious. Too many 'versions' of the console?
Edit: Answered above.
Edit: Answered above.
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Krappadizzle
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Doctor Hades
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I do not have a problem with Resident Evil 4 also coming to the PS4.
I honestly do not think we are going to see many games that can *only* run on the new hardware until well into this generation and then they will be few and limited mostly to console exclusives. Most multiformat games will continue to just be cross-gen games that only differ from the previous gen in terms of resolution, framerate and asset/texture quality. There's a good reason for that and it comes down to development costs.
I honestly do not think we are going to see many games that can *only* run on the new hardware until well into this generation and then they will be few and limited mostly to console exclusives. Most multiformat games will continue to just be cross-gen games that only differ from the previous gen in terms of resolution, framerate and asset/texture quality. There's a good reason for that and it comes down to development costs.