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RX 7900XTX and 7900XT review thread
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GHG
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Honestly maybe it's just my fault, I expected a lot more coming away from their reveal conference for these products.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
If you are willing to pay $1200 why not save a little more and spend $1600
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Jesus, AMD sucks.
pretty sure Nvidia knew and thats why they priced their cards that way.
pretty sure Nvidia knew and thats why they priced their cards that way.
The Cockatrice
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By 2030 im going straight back to 800x600 crt monitors.
sandbood
Banned
No one sane actually expected this. We knew that 7900XTX would be slower than the 4090 the moment we knew the die sizes of the two products. The problem for AMD (at least for their bottom line) is that this product needed to be like ~15-20% better than the 4080 from a purely technical perspective. Yet nVidia is able to beat them with a product that actually costs less to make.
This guy gets it.
Desprado123
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I have said this many times in different forum that Ampere is massively ahead of RDNA 2 or 3.
What went wrong with Nvidia Ampere was that they used Samsung die's and limited them self with clock speed. If Nvidia used same TSMC die's than RDNA 3 would have been almost competing with Nvidia's Ampere and RTX 4xxx mid range.
What went wrong with Nvidia Ampere was that they used Samsung die's and limited them self with clock speed. If Nvidia used same TSMC die's than RDNA 3 would have been almost competing with Nvidia's Ampere and RTX 4xxx mid range.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yeah have seen people say they though Nvidia would be forced into a price drop but in comparison they are in a good spot even if they are all overpriced
Razvedka
Banned
7900XTX has superior raster perf vs the 4080 and comes in significantly cheaper. It's raytracing performance is about 'one generation' behind Nvidia's (sporting 3090 levels of performance in that area).
However, considering the price difference and rasterization equality-to-advantage, I think it's pretty easy to recommend people buy a 7900XTX over a 4080 as you're just throwing money away in the case of the latter. In addition, AMD is promising greater performance improvements for their FSR 2.2 hitting soon(ish) as I recall. So 'the gap' in some cases may close a bit more.
So anything below a 4090 AMD is winning. I don't see how this can be regarded as a victory for Nvidia in any capacity, especially since 4080s were never selling well. So if you want maximum performance grab a 4090. Otherwise? Buy RDNA3.
However, considering the price difference and rasterization equality-to-advantage, I think it's pretty easy to recommend people buy a 7900XTX over a 4080 as you're just throwing money away in the case of the latter. In addition, AMD is promising greater performance improvements for their FSR 2.2 hitting soon(ish) as I recall. So 'the gap' in some cases may close a bit more.
So anything below a 4090 AMD is winning. I don't see how this can be regarded as a victory for Nvidia in any capacity, especially since 4080s were never selling well. So if you want maximum performance grab a 4090. Otherwise? Buy RDNA3.
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GHG
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It's looking like everything is overpriced from a gen on gen perspective.
The current value is with the previous gen products at the moment, (3080, 6800 XT/6900 XT). But maybe that's what both AMD and Nvidia wanted considering they flooded the market due to crypto-mania. All these new releases have done is help clear previous gen inventory.
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skneogaf
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I am unsure why I have read negative comments about these two cards?
The 7900 XTX is a great card that is trading blows with a 4080 at a smaller size, hundreds of pounds cheaper.
Great card!
I think the 7900 XT should be 100 pounds cheaper though as people should just save that extra 100 pounds for the XTX.
Hopefully these cards will cause nvidia to reduce the cost of 4000 series!
The 7900 XTX is a great card that is trading blows with a 4080 at a smaller size, hundreds of pounds cheaper.
Great card!
I think the 7900 XT should be 100 pounds cheaper though as people should just save that extra 100 pounds for the XTX.
Hopefully these cards will cause nvidia to reduce the cost of 4000 series!
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hinch7
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Saw a couple of reviews and its a meh release. For cards designed to be energy efficient it doesn't seem like it. That and/or RNDA architectures are still well behind Ampere and Ada LL.
With the power consumption quite bad. Especially at idle. Linus Tech Tips had their XTX models at 50W idle and scales to like 170W, doing nothing using different monitors.
With the power consumption quite bad. Especially at idle. Linus Tech Tips had their XTX models at 50W idle and scales to like 170W, doing nothing using different monitors.
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//DEVIL//
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I already have a 4090 FE. I am just saying in general. if anything. the 4080 has been reported as being sold for less than the MSRP price in Europe ( not really sure I live in Canada ), but if thats true, then it means its lower than a 200$ price difference.
So it's overall on par with the 4080 and costs less? The RTX improvements compared to RDNA2 are also substantial.
They did a good job imo unless you expected it to destroy the 4080 and compete with the 4090 but that was debunked by AMD itself pretty much immediatly so you could see that they were positioning these cards against the 4080 and it's a really good product.
They did a good job imo unless you expected it to destroy the 4080 and compete with the 4090 but that was debunked by AMD itself pretty much immediatly so you could see that they were positioning these cards against the 4080 and it's a really good product.
LordCBH
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Sounds great to me considering it’s cheaper than the 4080
Razvedka
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I think people expected Nvidia to lose altogether, price and performance, against RDNA3. So because unreasonable expectations were not met, 'AMD loses'.
Which is absurd. They are kicking Nvidia's ass below the 4090.
Desprado123
Member
No it is not the case.
When RTX 3090 Ti is trading blows with AMD RX 7900 XT in non RT performance something has really gone bad.
winjer
Gold Member
It's 20% cheaper than the 4080. So that's a good price difference.
Razvedka
Banned
7900XTX is beating 3090 and 4080 in raster. That is AMD's 'flagship card' and it comes in several hundred dollars cheaper than the 4080. I genuinely don't know what you're talking about.
Edit: and as people have mentioned here, and in the official reviews, AMD has a track record for dramatic performance gains through driver optimizations. Linus goes into detail about the 6900 being a poster child for this.
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GreatnessRD
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While it doesn't look bad, as I stated in the other 7900 thread, the 900 series card of AMD went toe to toe with the 90 series class of card from Nvidia. For the 900 series card to now step down a tier to the 80 series class of card is pretty disappointing on top of the last gen Ray tracing performance for those who look at that. Doesn't inspire confidence down their product stack with the 7800 XT, 7700, etc. Maybe the driver work will help it age like "Fine wine", but we'll see.
Puscifer
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Is this a common problem with AMD? I had a 6700XT I returned and was going to get another one but I lucked out with a founders 3070ti at Best buy during a drop I saw while using the app so I went with that instead.
bentanchorbolt
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Halo cards still too expensive for a hobby like gaming.
Anchovie123
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So AMD gets all the good guy points for being so much cheaper then the 4090 despite the fact that its actually a 4080 competitor? 
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
And cheaper than the 4080, pretty compelling choice if someone was in the market for the 4080 price rangeSo AMD gets all the good guy points for being so much cheaper then the 4090 despite the fact that its actually a 4080 competitor?
so did you look at a review?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
From consumer perspective: Not great, not terrible. If you’re willing to settle for 3090 - 3090 Ti RT performance to save $200 vs 4080 then it’s a good choice (although I think most people willing to spend this much on a GPU would just as soon spend the extra $200)
From AMD perspective this seems like a disappointment. It’s clearly not achieving what AMD was aiming for as
Buggy Loop
pointed out.
Hopefully the inevitable 7950 will fix whatever it was that held the 7900 back so badly.
From AMD perspective this seems like a disappointment. It’s clearly not achieving what AMD was aiming for as
Buggy Loop
pointed out.Hopefully the inevitable 7950 will fix whatever it was that held the 7900 back so badly.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Honestly a bit disappointed. I was expecting the xtx to be much faster than the 4080. (But still slower than the 4090)
Instead we got a card that's neck and neck in raster with worse rt and power consumption. If this is what AMD is offering for their stuff I think I'll stick with an older high end 6000 series especially since the prices on those are dropping like flies
Instead we got a card that's neck and neck in raster with worse rt and power consumption. If this is what AMD is offering for their stuff I think I'll stick with an older high end 6000 series especially since the prices on those are dropping like flies
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SolidQ
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There some people already found something new about RDNA3. gfx11 = RDNA3, gfx11.5 = RDNA3 refresh with RDNA4 sAlu. Gfx 12 = RDNA4.
Navi32 seems delaying to Fall 23, until bug fixed and top NAvi32 shoudl be = Radeon 7900XT and cheaper
Call of Duty players can easy take 7900XTX
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LordOfChaos
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Ed: Miscalculated, I will commit sudoku
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//DEVIL//
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as my video card is mainly a COD machine, this graph made me look at my 4090 in a way like "wtf u doin mate?" but then I saw the other graphs.... yeah not even close to the 4090.There some people already found something new about RDNA3. gfx11 = RDNA3, gfx11.5 = RDNA3 refresh with RDNA4 sAlu. Gfx 12 = RDNA4.
Navi32 seems delaying to Fall 23, until bug fixed and top NAvi32 shoudl be = Radeon 7900XT and cheaper
Call of Duty players can easy take 7900XTX
Buggy Loop
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Smaller cooler size? Maybe. That's a tradeoff in the temps you will have though as the AMD pulls more power. But technology wise, it's 1.4x the die area. So smaller is relative. It doesn't use less power if you looked at the review. In fact, it'll be interesting to see the 4080 OC'd to more similar power limits to see the difference.
And that's a big big big problem AMD has. For years and years peoples want AMD to compete only to buy cheaper Nvidia cards. Crazy the hold Nvidia has on dedicated GPUs.
Was it? First time i hear that RDNA 2 had a coil whine problem? I mean they all sort of do, it's lottery, but the gamers Nexus video with the coil whine was really bad.
Nvidia is 20% more expensive : (1199/999-1)*100
AMD is 16.7% cheaper : (1-999/1199)*100
Maths..
Ev1L AuRoN
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The only issue for me remains the FSR vs DLSS. AMD should stop being nice and put some silicon to work in order to be competitive. FSR already demands motion vector data meaning the price to implement is the same as DLSS, why not put some accelerators on their GPU and step up their game. Come on AMD.
Dural
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Agreed, 7900XTX is really 7800XT but they probably did what they did because of Nvidia's ridiculous pricing of the 4080. If 4080 was at the "normal" price of $700 we'd have a $700 7800XT and $600 7700XT rather than this BS.
Intel's drivers are getting better, hopefully by next gen they can actually disrupt the market.
b0uncyfr0
Member
How is the 7900xt matching the 4090..? The MW benches + F1 benches are an outlier - the xtx trades blows with the 4080, not the 4090.
Desprado123
Member
COD M2 is the only game that RX 7900 XTX user will be playing if we go by some of the poster here.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
If nothing else I hope AMDs driver updates close the gap a bit between 4090 and the 7900 cards
Insane Metal
Member
4090 is on a league of its own as said before.
4080 x 7900XTX is a pretty good fight. AMDs card is cheaper, offers same or better raster performance and a bit slower but still decent rt performance. Not as bad as some of you are saying.
4080 x 7900XTX is a pretty good fight. AMDs card is cheaper, offers same or better raster performance and a bit slower but still decent rt performance. Not as bad as some of you are saying.
chromatic9
Member
Seems ok compared to Nvidia's offerings but I'm still in disbelief at the cost and power consumption of these GPUs from AMD/Nvidia
LordOfChaos
Member
Comment is edited, I was reading the ars review and had elevated expectations on a hype tweet, but more like 900 matching 1200
Mister Wolf
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DLSS at the moment is the only temporal upscaler that doesn't completely shit the bed using 1080p to get a 4K output.
Desprado123
Member
So basically Hardware unboxed and Gamer Nexus indirectly says that buy Nvidia RTX 4xxx.
SolidQ
Member
Portal need fix for running even on RDNA2 cards, because game only utilize up 4% RDNA2 card.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
If you can budget $1000 for a GPU then you can budget $1200 as well. That’s the problem. It’s already absurd pricing, why not spend a bit more and get something better.