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Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey The Official Thread of Minion and Demonica
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I started playing last night, finished exploring Antlia B1F. Safe to say I suck at demon negotiations, though I finally got a Kaso after a dozen tries. Is there anything in particular that triggers a demon asking to join you at the beginning of a battle?
I'll have to start forcing myself to do some fusing soon - I really hate fusing demons only to find out I could just recruit one of the new type in the next area, so I end up putting off any experimentation as long as possible.
I'll have to start forcing myself to do some fusing soon - I really hate fusing demons only to find out I could just recruit one of the new type in the next area, so I end up putting off any experimentation as long as possible.
DigitalDevil
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MoxManiac said:
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rainking187
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Got my replacement CD in the mail today. Haven't tried to listen to it yet. Surprised how fast they sent it.
I also got the replacement CD. Of course, I'm probably not going to listen to it right now because I've heard a lot of the game's tracks way too much as it is. But Atlus is definitely some good sports for sending out a replacement this quickly.
But as for the game, just made it to Sector G. This place is kinda boring. Dungeon palette swaps, no new music, and pretty crappy random encounters. And since Fornax went by pretty smoothly on all accounts, I'm fully expecting this sector to go straight back to Eridanus levels of ridiculousness to reciprocate. Alignment-wise, I should be happy that this is the first Megami Tensei game to make me pick a side on my first time through (Devil Survivor came close), even if it'll probably end up being completely extreme. Hell, I'm more surprised that it actually made me Law aligned, and we know how shitty Law is in this series.
But... Uh.. Are there actually any good Law demons in the 50s-60s or should I look forward to having a party of mostly neutral fiends and chaotic tyrants?
But as for the game, just made it to Sector G. This place is kinda boring. Dungeon palette swaps, no new music, and pretty crappy random encounters. And since Fornax went by pretty smoothly on all accounts, I'm fully expecting this sector to go straight back to Eridanus levels of ridiculousness to reciprocate. Alignment-wise, I should be happy that this is the first Megami Tensei game to make me pick a side on my first time through (Devil Survivor came close), even if it'll probably end up being completely extreme. Hell, I'm more surprised that it actually made me Law aligned, and we know how shitty Law is in this series.
But... Uh.. Are there actually any good Law demons in the 50s-60s or should I look forward to having a party of mostly neutral fiends and chaotic tyrants?
semiconscious
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Y2Kev said:
i had an amazingly easy time with the alice mission - until i shot her with a rock bullet
...really enjoying where the story's gone at this point (fornax), & continue to be amazed at how well the writers've channeled the spirit of ed wood, dialog-wise - especially every time one of the bosses starts ranting
...Labombadog
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My Jirae Hua Po just hit lvl 10 and she wants to change her 'Maragi' to another skill. I tried looking for a SJ FAQs but couldnt find any. What skill is replacing my dear Maragi?
Labombadog
Member
Appreciate your answer. This is my only downfall in the SMT games, they should let you know what they are learning instead of changing a good skill to a crappy one. I guess that's what the demon registration is for.Kishgal said:
edit: AND...I got Patra (cures sleep). Ugh.
Black_Mamba
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How does this one compare to Etrian Odyssey II?
Labombadog
Member
It isn't as hard as Etrian Odyssey II. I remember grinding like a maniac in EO2 for like the first 10 or so hrs. Game was extremely hard in the beginning. Although this game is harder than the usual rpg's, its no where near as difficult as EO2.
Barely. Etrian Odyssey is a Wizardry clone where the emphasis is on character building and delving deeper and deeper into a single monolithic dungeon. SJ, as with SMT games before it, is closer to traditional RPGs with many dungeons, NPCs, and a stronger emphasis on story. Party progression is through demon negotiation and fusing instead of classes and skill points. As Archie said above, the only real similarities lie in the first-person dungeon aspect.Black_Mamba said:
Red Scarlet
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Labombadog said:
It's part of the risk. If it's a main demon you want to probably use for awhile, saving right before a level up can be handy if you get a crappy spell changed from a good one.
charlequin
Banned
Labombadog said:
As a broad, general rule, you should always say no when a demon asks to replace a useful skill and only say yes when they ask to replace a redundant or shitty skill.
(My Fortuna turned that redundant Garu into Mazio earlier today. Woot!)
Well, I've been lurking for years and I guess this is as good a place as any for my first post. Hello GAF! (also, special shout out to Segata and Stump, you guys are my heroes and I would love to be a professional weed carrier for either of you).
Days and days late so who knows if you're reading, but to anyone who's thinking about getting the game at Best Buy, make sure you ask to see if they've got it in the back if you don't see it on display. I had to ask on two separate occasions for them to bring the game out for me, maybe they're hiding it because it's an M-rated DS game? Or maybe my Best Buy is just weird. In any case, I've got a nice copy of the game sitting on my shelf that I've been desperate to play, but I've been forcing myself to finish Devil Survivor first. It's really unfair to Devil Survivor because I've heard such excellent things about this game, but while I'm enjoying myself quite a bit, my mind keeps wandering to Strange Journey and how amazing it's going to be.
Scythesurge said:
Days and days late so who knows if you're reading, but to anyone who's thinking about getting the game at Best Buy, make sure you ask to see if they've got it in the back if you don't see it on display. I had to ask on two separate occasions for them to bring the game out for me, maybe they're hiding it because it's an M-rated DS game? Or maybe my Best Buy is just weird. In any case, I've got a nice copy of the game sitting on my shelf that I've been desperate to play, but I've been forcing myself to finish Devil Survivor first. It's really unfair to Devil Survivor because I've heard such excellent things about this game, but while I'm enjoying myself quite a bit, my mind keeps wandering to Strange Journey and how amazing it's going to be.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I took a break from SJ to play through RGG4 and Again, and it's killing me that I haven't played SJ in a while. I'm on Delphinus right now, and I'm dying to go back. Just a couple days more...
Freyjadour
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Wish I had found the Fiend Converter Sub App earlier, I love Matador
dragonlife
Member
I finally bought my copy today I can't wait to start playing it.
I can't wait to start playing it.NaughtyCalibur
Member
So I beat this a few days ago and I must say that, while definitely not my favorite SMT game, it's definitely a solid installment into the franchise, as well as being a damn good dungeon crawler on its own. I had so many great moments with this game, but my best one by far had to be when the stupid enemy A.I. handed me a victory practically gift wrapped with a bow on top.
Basically what happened was I was fighting
who has around 9,000 HP. I had my trusty Doppleganger that's been with me since Carina, and another Demon that happens to reflect gun skills as well. What does the stupid A.I. do? Well, it decides to spam this ridiculously powerful gun attack that reflected back for nearly 4,000 damage the first time, 3,000 the second, and then overkilled itself with 3,000 on the third. What should have been a fairly difficult battle turned into the biggest spectacle of self-ownage to ever occur in a video game.
I'm cooking up a spoiler-free video review of this game soon, which I'll probably post here. It was a lot of fun; got me back in the mood to play SMT games. Maybe I should get back to Devil Survivor and finish that up.
Basically what happened was I was fighting
Demon Jiménez
I'm cooking up a spoiler-free video review of this game soon, which I'll probably post here. It was a lot of fun; got me back in the mood to play SMT games. Maybe I should get back to Devil Survivor and finish that up.
charlequin
Banned
Totakeke said:
No, that would definitely be worse. Right now there's an interesting tradeoff between maximizing co-op and picking the strictly best demons available to you; if you don't allow other-alignment demons you're just cutting off 2/3rds of the list (and if you don't even allow them to be in your stock, you're completely gimping the fusion system.)
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Yes, I was coming in to post this. This is the exact same thing that happened to me. Empty envelope with a packing slip that says "Thanks for your business!" and lists the replacement CD as the contents of the envelope... but there was nothing.duckroll said:
I am going to write them and hit up their Twitter for some help.
Labombadog said:
I long ago stopped letting my demons change their skills in SMT games. It's almost never worthwhile, and I don't like abusing the save system to swing the odds in my favor.
Totakeke said:
I'm disappointed in that, too. This the first SMT game since DDS1 to have no difficulty levels/harder second cycle, and the first since P3 to not have any kind of hard mode at all (and both remakes/ports of P3 had extra difficulty options. Also, not really a fan of bonus content being placed near the end of the second playthrough of 50+ hour RPGs.
Anyhow, I finally got Unlock A and the fusion system (usable and viewable compendium anywhere? Hell yeah!). I'm assuming I'm actually at the point in the point where the gameplay starts to become the prominent part of the game?
TheCardPlayer
Likes to have "friends" around to "play cards" with
This...game! Can't...stop...playing. Man, best RPG on the DS. Bar none. So fucking amazing. Shit, I think I like this more than Nocturne. The art and music is doing it for me. Eridanus is such an improvement on Delphinus too. Except for that stupid
. Man what a boss.
Ouroboros
Please tell me that you eventually get a Demonica upgrade/subapp that prevents damage from floor tiles. They're really annoying my OCD self in Bootes.
I appear to have recently broken 10% in my compendium. Eventually I hope to stick with a particular demon beyond the time it takes to max the analysis and get its source, but probably not anytime soon.
I appear to have recently broken 10% in my compendium. Eventually I hope to stick with a particular demon beyond the time it takes to max the analysis and get its source, but probably not anytime soon.
NaughtyCalibur
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Mechar said:
Around 50 hours. 52 to be a bit more exact. I could have went longer but I really wanted to get on with my life. This game was eating up so much of my free time it actually began to worry me. :lol
Labombadog
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NaughtyCalibur said:
Hey buddy! Long time.
I am really enjoying this game a lot. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and have beaten it (damn that was fast!). And yes, go back to Devil Survivor. Game is awesome.
I'm almost done I think. I'm at the last sector and lost in the maze. I'm about 45 hours in. I still need to do some ex mission and to grind to get the best demons. I feel like they didn't flesh the law, chaos and neutral paths much compared to devil survivor and SMT 3. Story wise they kinda throw everything at you near the end and to be honest all three options are bad in some way. Are there any reason to go neutral? From what I've seen there are law and chaos centric ex missions and locked areas in dungeons but not for neutral. The game also balance the number of bosses so you fight pretty much the same amount for every path.
I went with law. Story wise what happened so far is pretty retarded with this path but I got a very good demon and gun from it.
Quick Q. What happen when you go with chaos or neutral instead at the last sector?
Last sector spoiler
Because with law
I went with law. Story wise what happened so far is pretty retarded with this path but I got a very good demon and gun from it.
Quick Q. What happen when you go with chaos or neutral instead at the last sector?
Last sector spoiler
Because with law
you fight Gore then Zelenin sings and brainwash everyone on the Red Sprite. The three wise mens are now supporting us. I'm kinda confused, are they law aligned? Now every NPC on the ships (even Irving) are talking about the lord and are calling me brother :lol :lol . When you find new formas Irvine is saying that we will do God will with it or whatever. I suppose if you go neutral then everyone on the ship agree and don't need persuasion? With Chaos does Jiminez intimidate everyone? Do you ever get to fight Lucifer? (little girl) I taught I would fight her in the law path but nope. I fought Gore and Jiminez but no Louise Ferra what a letdown. I heard on the chaos path that you at least fight Mastema.
what a letdown. I heard on the chaos path that you at least fight Mastema.TheCardPlayer
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TheCardPlayer said:
Wow. Weird they gave good scores to Devil Survivor and Personas.
I do agree with some part though.
I don't care about the map showing where to go (it's a maze and that's the point duh). But I was really annoyed when I got lost for hours because I didn't find a hidden door. Gate Search should put new gates in the map windows when I have the correct level upgrades and when I'm in it's vicinity (like forma search).
This is not really accurate. The demon negotiation is one of the main aspects of the SMT games. Of course it's gonna be similar. In this one alignment had an important part in negotiation. Dialogues are really fun and varied. You also have full moon conversations and conversation when they surrender. They also changed appearances of some demons (shocking). Titania is no longer a fairy with a green skirt and Oberon is well... different.
It's much more like SMT 1 and 2 than Persona and Devil survivor. I think that's the problem with the reviewer. If you are expecting a Persona like narrative and characters interactions you will be disappointed. It's also much more hard (dungeons wise) than Persona 4.
Definitly not as good as Nocturne though. I'm at the final area and will probably beat it soon and would give it more like 8/10.
Freyjadour
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TheCardPlayer said:
