akaFullmetal
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Every new gen there is always a thread like this. We're in launch year which always looks unimpressive compared to the middle and end of it.
You see… I look at 60fps a lot different than you. I see 60fps and think…. Wow, they really could’ve done more. 60fps makes me think the game could’ve looked better, but they decided to use the extra power to pump out more frames.Biggest difference is 60 FPS in pretty much every game.
And loading. And the DualSense.
Opposite for me:
- 120 fps modes? First time ever.
- RT already? Yes.
- FPS boost, autoHDR, quick resume? Excellent.
- Dualsense? Rock my world harder.
The games will come and I think that is more a product of COVID. But I have to say that thus far I have enjoyed everything these systems have offered thus far.
Games: Ratchet, Demon Souls, FH5, Returnal. Mmmmmmm
dreamcast/ps2 blew away the ps1/64 right out the gate,Every new gen there is always a thread like this. We're in launch year which always looks unimpressive compared to the middle and end of it.
In terms of CPU GFLOPS increase, PS5 CPU is about 4X over PS4's CPU, hence 30 fps to 60 fps boost consumes half of the CPU's resource when running the same game code.My last gen go-to console was primarily the Xbox One X, with some occasional gaming on PS4 Pro on the side.
I got myself a PS5 and a Series X a couple of months ago. I have to say, if you don't have a 120Hz monitor, my experience so far on these consoles has been pretty... meh. They feel more like One X2 and PS4 ProPro. Especially One X has spoiled with with great IQ for cross gen games.
I hope these consoles start to put out games that showcase why you need a Series X or a PS5.
What can I play on these things that will wow me? I have Forza Horizon 5 in my living room on my Series X and in my bedroom on my One X. Sure I see some difference but it's not a generational leap.
This is usually the case with new consoles until the games fully transition. Unfortunately, because of the chip shortage, you're seeing a much heavier dependence on last gen than usual. I recommend playing Ratchet and Clank: A Rift Apart if you want to be wowed. It's currently on sale on PSN.
Biggest difference is 60 FPS in pretty much every game.
And loading. And the DualSense.
PS4 Pro wasnt shit. I had a SSD more expensive than my PS4 Pro inside of it. Still wasnt shit.As someone who never upgraded PS4 to Pro however, the upgrade from base PS4 to PS5 has been fantastic.
no it's not lmao that could have ran on a PS3 the rifts were like 2 feet apart smh gimmick
It'll still be a good leap, we just have to wait until games are being made from the ground up for these consolesWe’re never going to have that rush of seeing generational graphical upgrades like we saw with the ps2 after the ps1 and the xbox 360 after the ps2. That era is over. From here on out it’ll be incremental improvements.
'It is' higher than 1080P in processing requirements and image quality, it uses some form of advanced reconstruction to reach 4K. No reason to choose something like 1296P with basic upscale for the sake of it when the result in IQ is worse.If you call this early 2000's - ok?
With so many polygons expecting anything higher than 1080p is just plain stupidity.
I think it's just nostalgia from old people.I feel like some people here jsut hate video games
First, we are still in the Crossgen. Then faster loading times(both consoles), far more responsive controller(Ps5), quick resume(xbox) are clear impromements beyond graphics.My last gen go-to console was primarily the Xbox One X, with some occasional gaming on PS4 Pro on the side.
I got myself a PS5 and a Series X a couple of months ago. I have to say, if you don't have a 120Hz monitor, my experience so far on these consoles has been pretty... meh. They feel more like One X2 and PS4 ProPro. Especially One X has spoiled with with great IQ for cross gen games.
I hope these consoles start to put out games that showcase why you need a Series X or a PS5.
What can I play on these things that will wow me? I have Forza Horizon 5 in my living room on my Series X and in my bedroom on my One X. Sure I see some difference but it's not a generational leap.
I recently purchased that, my first ever God of War game, haven't got around to it yet...too hooked on Mass Effect 2 and all things Forza Horizon 5.....How could you not be disappointed ? Look at God of War sequel, Ragnarok. On 8x more powerful console looks identical to GOW 2018 lmao
Those figures for PS5 are clock to clock I presume? Cause PS5 CPU is only slightly slower than desktop Ryzen.In terms of CPU GFLOPS increase, PS5 CPU is about 4X over PS4's CPU, hence 30 fps to 60 fps boost consumes half of the CPU's resource when running the same game code.
PS4 CPU = 102 GFLOPS
PS5 CPU = 409 GFLOPS (PC Ryzen 7 3700X's 8 core Zen 2 has about 1,126 GFLOPS**).
Don't expect Crackdown 3's Xeon Broadwell-E's destructive physics scale running on the local game console.
**Theoretical GFLOPS for Ryzen 7 3700X, PC Zen 2 has the full AVX unit count.
(32 FLOPS per cycle x 4,400 Mhz) x 8 cores = 1126 GFLOPS.
(32 FLOPS per cycle x 4,200 Mhz) x 8 cores = 1075 GFLOPS.
I still play my PS4 Pro along side my Series S, it’s really not a problem unless you’re a massively anal nerd.The SSD alone is worth the upgrade...
I don't know how anyone is still playing on that spinning disk trash
PS4 is leaps and bounds ahead of PS3 and it was really obvious once we got through the release year and a half drought. hopefully this is the same.Garbage just like last gen. This time, though, I’m not going to be a sucker. I’ll wait for the Pro or revision versions.
Happily playing on my PC in the meantime. If you don’t have a PC, might as well jump into a new console gen asap.
409 GFLOPS... PS5's CPU runs at 3.2 GHz? Will you cut the BS FUD, please?In terms of CPU GFLOPS increase, PS5 CPU is about 4X over PS4's CPU, hence 30 fps to 60 fps boost consumes half of the CPU's resource when running the same game code.
PS4 CPU = 102 GFLOPS
PS5 CPU = 409 GFLOPS (PC Ryzen 7 3700X's 8 core Zen 2 has about 1,126 GFLOPS**).
Don't expect Crackdown 3's Xeon Broadwell-E's destructive physics scale running on the local game console.
**Theoretical GFLOPS for Ryzen 7 3700X, PC Zen 2 has the full AVX unit count.
(32 FLOPS per cycle x 4,400 Mhz) x 8 cores = 1126 GFLOPS.
(32 FLOPS per cycle x 4,200 Mhz) x 8 cores = 1075 GFLOPS.
Also, do you have any proof of this? Show us PS5's CPU resource usage running BC 60fps boosted games.hence 30 fps to 60 fps boost consumes half of the CPU's resource when running the same game code.
I know it's "upscaled" and that's perfectly fine for me. The game is stunningly beautiful when in battle and that's what matters.'It is' higher than 1080P in processing requirements and image quality, it uses some form of advanced reconstruction to reach 4K. No reason to choose something like 1296P with basic upscale for the sake of it when the result in IQ is worse.
For me, to be able to put away my PS4 Pro and not have to hear that jet engine noise anyway was well worth getting the PS5 for.
How could you not be disappointed ? Look at God of War sequel, Ragnarok. On 8x more powerful console looks identical to GOW 2018 lmao
60fps ruins a lot of games for me. TLOU2 at 60 just looks funky and ruins the cinematic nature of the game. Same with spiderman, the animations just look weird at 60.Some people are really never satisfied are they? Some of the next gen patches we've gotten for games has gotten me to go deep on games now that there is hardware to match their vision. VALHALLA, SPIDERMAN, DS, GOT. . . the list goes on and on. Going from PS3 to PS5 is an insane leap, and yes PS4 showed what COULD be possible and that's what you're getting with that middle generation transition.
. . . this is from someone with a 120 HZ TV that limits things to 60 whenever I can.
Crazy. Crazy take.
Metro Exodus Enhanced EditionBesides The Medium have we even had any current gen only 3rd Party games?
It was already fairly obvious even in its first year. Watch Dogs, COD AW, and Shadow of Mordor all looked vastly better on PS4 than their PS3 versions. AC Unity also blew Black Flag clean out of the water in that first year.PS4 is leaps and bounds ahead of PS3 and it was really obvious once we got through the release year and a half drought. hopefully this is the same.