MiguelItUp
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I can totally see this happening.
Please be Bloodborne. Please.
Please be Bloodborne. Please.
Yeah. Dantes inferno is almost lostEverything should come to PC eventually. Even if it’s years later. Almost everybody wins.
Erm you forgot GoT? only the best game of the last 10 years.Bloodborne and Uncharted are the only interesting games though.
Gravity Rush would be a nice addition too.
Unreal engine has more worth than the store.Can't understand the actions.
They invested in Epic but put their games on Steam?
Not having to wait 3 to 10 years for a portWhat's the point owning a PlayStation if I can play their games on PC?
Again there releasing pretty much all the PS4 games on P.C. They are done pushing PS4, and its great advertisement that if you want the sequel you will have to purchase it on PS5. Sony gets alittle more money and potentially a larger user base. When PS6 come out expect all PS5 1st party games to go to P.C. also. I bet God of war and Spiderman PS4 will come to P.C. alittle bit before God of War 2 and Spiderman 2 comes out for PS5.What's the point owning a PlayStation if I can play their games on PC?
It would be very suicidal to only make it exclusive to Epic Games, just because they have a deal with Epic Games which has to do with development tools doesn't mean a damn thing for the Epic Games, if Sony wants to expand their marketplace, even more, it's in their best interest to keep it on Steam. Nothing more needs to be said.Can't understand the actions.
They invested in Epic but put their games on Steam?
I don't, maybe it must be a regional price error.Not for me, maybe you have coupon active
Yup 20 dollars mate.Wait what?!
Yeah that's what I figured.
If both consoles end up with day and date exclusives (or even delayed ones), it will be interesting to see how it eats at console sales once graphic cards are available again. Exclusives drive console sales, I think it's something that hurt Microsoft in terms of xbox sales (a lot on here have said no xbox as they already have a good pc). Sony needs to tread carefully here.
This is a Gaming thread.Game of Thrones?
That's a TV series
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Already among the rumored ones incoming, according to several sources.Think about God of War on PC.
..and when he snaps, half of them are gone?
Yes? But GoT is obviously Ghost`s of Thushima...but obviously it was a very weak attempt at sarcastic humor.And this is a soccer avatar
Sony doesn't have a cloud infrastructure. Again, they didn't choose to make money, they chose to help the competition.Because you benefit in it more than any other option would.
Between helping the competition and making more money, they chose making more money.
AKA Sony partnering with MS Azure for their cloud services.
You can't play the best ones. I'm sure a team of professionals did their calculations and determined that the pros outweigh the cons when it comes to bringing PS games to PC and I'm sure this will be pretty profitable for Sony.What's the point owning a PlayStation if I can play their games on PC?
So why invest in that in the first place if you don't believe in it and you're activate competing against? That's what anyone would call a stupid investment.Your analogy doesn't explain anything to the person who is confused. My analogy is used to explains the motive of why Sony would invest in Epic which is because they have literally money in the bank that sitting there doing nothing. So they buy a small piece of Epic Games so that they can make money off money they already have. It also illustrates of why Sony doesn't let their side hustle that they have a little bit of skin in with their main hustle selling games.
Sony invests inPepsiEpic Games at all because of growth potential and ROI. If you think some company is going to double, triple or whatever in size then you should probably invest in them. But if you have a business that brings you home all your bacon, then you are going to make sure it brings you the most bacon ever instead of making decisions that you think will make you less money in hopes that this decision is going to make a big enough impact long term to cover all that lost money. It's possible for that to happen but it's arguably higher risk and arguably way too speculative.
Also, Sony probably didn't invest in Epic for their Epic Store, they probably saw the growth potential of their primary engine business and games business and they aren't going to try to help every facet of the business just because they own a stake. Especially a very tiny one.
And soon those professionals will tell Jim "hey man, the best ones will sell 5 million copies"You can't play the best ones. I'm sure a team of professionals did their calculations and determined that the pros outweigh the cons when it comes to bringing PS games to PC and I'm sure this will be pretty profitable for Sony.
Good lord at the speed they work at!!?? You'd see it in 2030 when they're just about ready to show Gran Turismo 8Imagine Gran Turismo 7 on PC
In the beginning... ps4 after a few months was already selling without loss, and after the slim revisions they start making profit... Hey the focking thing is still selling at 300 euros almost 8 years after releasing, 350 with games _ every other ps was already half the initial price by now. They are not loosing money with hardware.arent all consoles sold at a loss? cutting that out in the long term is just making money on software.
I've already explained that. But let me try again. I'm going to use arbitrary numbers going forward.So why invest in that in the first place if you don't believe in it and you're activate competing against? That's what anyone would call a stupid investment.
Sony has put their games on GOG as well (my preferred option.) I hope they continue to do that.Can't understand the actions.
They invested in Epic but put their games on Steam?
I'm asking for dreams.Voted Bloodborne but realistically it will be something nobody is asking for like Dreams or Knack
What's the point in selling you a loss leader console when they can sell games to you on PC without that BS?What's the point owning a PlayStation if I can play their games on PC?
Own a PlayStation and a gaming PC and you live and game like a king .Excited as shit to play Days Gone on PC.
Game run like poop on my OG PS4, so I'm happy that I can play it on PC.
Lol to all you kids crying about Sony putting old games on PC. I have owned every single Playstation in my lifetime, and have an affinity towards the brand.
This is a good thing for everyone. Stop crying about it.
Again it doesn't make sense. If you want your investment to grow then you help that company, what part of that you can't understand? I'm sure Epic is going to grow a lot by Sony releasing games on Steam lmao.I've already explained that. But let me try again. I'm going to use arbitrary numbers going forward.
Lets say that steam has 95% market share in PC digital distribution and is worth $300 Billion because of it. Lets say that Epic Games is worth $5 billion for just their store business (and they don't do anything else for simplicity) and has like 3% market share
People don't like having money sitting in the bank, because they don't want it doing nothing because you want to at least beat inflation but ideally you want to turn it to a lot of extra money.
If you see that Epic has been super successful lately and think that they have growth potential because of whatever trends and you invest $200 million into Epic Games. If Epic Games manages to double their business (i.e. market share) the value of the company could effectively double (companies go up in value when this happen but it's not always a proportionate). But lets just say for this example that when Epic Games gets 6% market share they are now worth $10 billion (double). Your $200 million dollar investment is worth $400 million (+100% ROI). Steam going to 100% market share is something super hard to do and even if they do, unless the market significantly grows (i.e. almost doubles in size) you probably aren't going to see a 100% ROI. In stagnant market and in this oversimplified scenario, Steam going up 5% would only increase that $200 million investment to ~$210 million whereas Epic Games gaining a measly 3% market share could double your investment.
In reality, things are a lot more complicated that that. But the key take away is that you can invest in companies that can double, triple or quadruple in size and still don't believe that they will dominate the market (especially in everything that they do). People invest because they look into getting their money back and more. The example above didn't really need to be Steam vs Epic but I just used them as a relevant example of how you can invest in a company that you think can grow significantly but not necessarily be the "winner".
A more straightforward answer is that Epic Games is dominating with Unreal Engine and Fornite and they are going to go up in value. Epic needed money and gave Sony the opportunity to own piece of them as they grow and grow. Sony can still think that Epic Games could be worth $50B or $100B one day without foolishing championing and supporting everything they do just because they own a small fraction of them; especially if it comes at a cost to their main business.
It makes perfect sense. They want to try to make the most money possible.Again it doesn't make sense. If you want your investment to grow then you help that company, what part of that you can't understand? I'm sure Epic is going to grow a lot by Sony releasing games on Steam lmao.
They had Gaikai.Sony doesn't have a cloud infrastructure. Again, they didn't choose to make money, they chose to help the competition.
Sony exclusives are the only reason I own a playstation. If they finally put the good games out, then I will stop trying to buy a ps5.Do exclusives drive sales? what is the top games on playstation? i bet its multiplatform games like gta / fifa / fortnite. Let's be honest here, while people like games like tlou2 and god of war. they are pretty much filler games for most people.
Almost everybody wins.