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https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/creative-entertainment-vision/interview/2.html

In re-reviewing our recent interview with Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann, we have found several significant errors and inaccuracies that don't represent his perspective and values (including topics such as animation, writing, technology, AI, and future projects). We apologize to Neil for misrepresenting his words and for any negative impact this interview might have caused him and his team. In coordination with Naughty Dog and SIE, we have removed the interview.

Here's some context from GameDeveloper:

Sony apologizes after completely botching interview with Naughty Dog boss Neil Druckmann

'We have found several significant errors and inaccuracies.'

www.gamedeveloper.com

 

[Skifi28]

Oh, the drama.

 

[adamsapple]

It appears Druckmann never claimed his next project would "redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming," but Sony went ahead and slapped that juicy quote into the exchange anyway.

Arrogant Sony is back.

 

[Saber]

From what I read they are apologising Cuckman. The Cringe tag is correct.

 

[ByWatterson]

Neil must be powerful AF inside Sony it they're apologizing TO HIM for what HE SAID.

(I don't think there was anything remotely wrong with what he said)

 

[Portugeezer]

Neil Sigmann redeemed. Cucked Sony.

 

[Punished Miku]

So Sony is apologizing to themselves for inaccurately summarizing what they themselves said? Hopefully Sony will accept their apology.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

 

[Majormaxxx]

oh ffs go away, Neil

just go away

 

[Oddvintagechap]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

bitches find anything he says as controversial.

 

[Thief1987]

Soy level is incredible at playstation hq

 

[Punished Miku]

bitches find anything he says as controversial.

In our defense, even he finds his own statements controversial.

 

[mckmas8808]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

The question is, DID HE SAY THOSE THINGS? That's the point of contention.

 

[Portugeezer]

The question is, DID HE SAY THOSE THINGS? That's the point of contention.

Let's put it this way, Tom Warren's next tweet:

"Druckmann doesn't think his next game will be revolutionary"

 

[RiccochetJ]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

"redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming," is the kind of boast Peter Moore would make. Whomever tried to summarize what Druckmann was trying to say did a poor job of it.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

An artist/writer saying that AI will achieve more than a good artist/writer is not only controversial but extremely stupid. And wrong, of course.

So yeah, if I were him and didn't mean those words, I would extremely pissed that they were interpreted that way.

 

[plip.plop]

What did he say that caused this redaction?

 

[Dr. Suchong]

We apologise for misinterpreting his bullshit with our own bullshit.
Or something like that.

 

[Games of Today]

Neil must be powerful AF inside Sony it they're apologizing TO HIM for what HE SAID.

(I don't think there was anything remotely wrong with what he said)

Well he helped spawn their biggest hit streaming show yet and runs their flagship studio.

I'm sure that him and Sony's RnD have a tight dialogue. After all, most of the other Sony first party games have literally copied most elements of ND's games at least since Uncharted 2. So it's no surprise.

 

[Kuranghi]

This is pure brilliance for gettin perspective, I can't actually think of something I care less about that this, whether he said it, whether its true or any of it.

I was outside a cafe an hour ago and I saw a dog sticking its head out of a driver's side window as the car passed by, I'm more concerned with whether the dog was driving the car or not. I think its very unlikely the dog was driving the care if I'm being honest, but I'm not invested in finding out than anything to do with what ND may or may not have said.

Here's a much much more interesting, if a little dated, controversy:



The video is very recent at the very least. Praise to the gravel-voiced big man, Ahoy

 

[Bernardougf]

Yes Neil ! You cant stand for this! Just quit! You have my support!

 

[ByWatterson]

Well he helped spawn their biggest hit streaming show yet and runs their flagship studio.

I'm sure that him and Sony's RnD have a tight dialogue. After all, most of the other Sony first party games have literally copied most elements of ND's games at least since Uncharted 2. So it's no surprise.

Yeah, totally, but it's still a stark demonstration. And pretty cool to think ND will get whatever it needs from Sony.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Last of Us 2: Ultra Turbo Edition will only SLIGHTLY redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming, so i can see why they apologized

 

[Gambit2483]

You just know Neil asked tor this, and of course Sony bent the knee.

 

[Little Chicken]

 

[Kilau]

Soy level is incredible at playstation hq

Soyny is a meme for a reason.

 

[Punished Miku]

"redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming," is the kind of boast Peter Moore would make. Whomever tried to summarize what Druckmann was trying to say did a poor job of it.

That's literally what he said though. Most of his talk was about changing the perceptions of gaming for the mainstream (non-gamers).

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

That's literally what he said though. Most of his talk was about changing the perceptions of gaming for the mainstream (non-gamers).

But people (including you) took it as his next game was to do that

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

oh for God's sake, figure it out. It's not that hard.

 

[Punished Miku]

But people (including you) took it as his next game was to do that

I'm sure what you imagined I said was really offensive.

Are you mad at me for reading the title of the previous article from Sony correctly? That's literally what it said. My post added "non-gamers" to clarify what mainstream meant. You're once again picking a fight with me over nothing. Nothing in my posts was offensive or worthy of arguing over.

[VGC] Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

Update to the update: Update: Some further context from Neil himself: The studio’s parent company Sony used its corporate strategy meeting on Thursday to present its “Creative Entertainment Vision,” which it describes as its long-term vision for where it “wants to be in 10 years...

www.neogaf.com

Neil Druckmann - "Our new project is something very fresh for our Studio" (new IP confirmed yet again)

Heres what he ACTUALLY said in that interview everyone was going haywire over. God damn sony needs a showcase - I cant wait to see what this is. - Most excited he's been on a project - Something very fresh for the studio. My bet is something open world.

www.neogaf.com

 

[RiccochetJ]

That's literally what he said though. Most of his talk was about changing the perceptions of gaming for the mainstream (non-gamers).

That is not literally what he said. Here's what he said:

"Well, I've been very lucky, in that I've already had that," Druckmann said. "I got the chance to make several of my dream projects. I am working on a new one right now. And it's maybe the most excited I've been for a project yet. I can't talk about it or our bosses will get very made at me. And I guess in general, there is something happening now that I think is very cool. Which is there's a new appreciation for gaming that I've never seen before.

"Like when I was growing up, gaming was more of a kid's thing. Now it's clearly for everyone. But it's like, if you're a gamer, you know about the potential of games, and non-gamers, they don't really know what they're missing out on. But my hope was, when we made The Last of Us as a TV show that we could change that. And why I became so involved with it. I wanted so badly for it to be good, because I wanted this to happen, which is like someone who will watch the show and really like it. And fall in love with those characters the way that we have fallen in love with those characters and their story. And then realize at the end, 'wait, that's based on a video game?' and then go and check out the game and just see the wealth of narratives and everything that's happening in game.

"So now I feel like there's kind of a spotlight on gaming. And you know, Fallout just came out. And that's a big success for Amazon. And I find that really exciting. Not because games need to be movies, or they need to be TV shows, but I think it just kind of opens the eyes of a bunch of people that just weren't aware of the kind of experiences that exist in games.

"I think right now we've hit a tipping point where it's about to take off where people realize, 'Oh my God, there's all these incredible moving experiences in games!' So, I'm not only excited for this game that we're making -- and it's, it's something really fresh for us -- but I'm also excited to see how the world reacts to it. Because of The Last of Us, and the success of the show, people even outside of gaming are looking at us to see what it is that we put out next. I'm very excited to see what the reaction for this thing will be -- and I've already said too much about it. I'll stop there. So, you're asking me for my dream projects. I've been very lucky to have worked on my favorite games with incredible collaborators and I'm very thankful for them."

Show me where in that full quote where he says that his next game is going to "redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming". I don't see it. I see him talking about how wider audiences are now seeing what games can offer narratively, and that he's excited to see what the reaction will be to ND's next game. Like I said, the person who tried to summarize did a poor job.

Neil Druckmann Did 'Not Quite' Say Naughty Dog's Next Game 'Could Redefine Mainstream Perceptions of Gaming' - IGN

Naughty Dog studio head Neil Druckmann has taken to X/Twitter to clarify that some of what made it into his interview with Sony was "not quite" what he said, including that the next game from The Last of Us developer could "redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming."

www.ign.com

 

[squarealex]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

It's just because is Neil Druckmann & baby people still mad about TLOUp2

 

[Punished Miku]

That is not literally what he said. Here's what he said:


Show me where in that full quote where he says that his next game is going to "redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming". I don't see it. I see him talking about how wider audiences are now seeing what games can offer narratively, and that he's excited to see what the reaction will be to ND's next game. Like I said, the person who tried to summarize, did a poor job.

Neil Druckmann Did 'Not Quite' Say Naughty Dog's Next Game 'Could Redefine Mainstream Perceptions of Gaming' - IGN

Naughty Dog studio head Neil Druckmann has taken to X/Twitter to clarify that some of what made it into his interview with Sony was "not quite" what he said, including that the next game from The Last of Us developer could "redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming."

www.ign.com

The whole last paragraph can be summarized that way. I think you guys just don't know what redefine means. It means non-gamers have a perception about games, and now there's a window to change that with his show and now his next game, and he specifically talks about non-gamers now looking at him after the show. It's an entirely accurate summary. Sure it may not be a word for word direct quote, but I don't particularly find anything he said worthy of this much hand wringing. The words have the same meaning.

 

[FoxMcChief]

The fuck? I can’t tell if this is soy Sony or arrogant Sony.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I'm sure what you imagined I said was really offensive.

[VGC] Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

Update to the update: Update: Some further context from Neil himself: The studio’s parent company Sony used its corporate strategy meeting on Thursday to present its “Creative Entertainment Vision,” which it describes as its long-term vision for where it “wants to be in 10 years...

www.neogaf.com

Neil Druckmann - "Our new project is something very fresh for our Studio" (new IP confirmed yet again)

Heres what he ACTUALLY said in that interview everyone was going haywire over. God damn sony needs a showcase - I cant wait to see what this is. - Most excited he's been on a project - Something very fresh for the studio. My bet is something open world.

www.neogaf.com

He's literally saying he wants to change the perception of non-gamers.

• Transcends all age groups (young and middle-aged is current gaming audience, so this includes older adults now)
• mentions the TV show again
• redefine mainstream perceptions (non-gamer perceptions) of gaming
• broader potential (blue ocean)

Could be a much more story based project with less "gamey" combat intended for gamers and non-gamers. Definitely a new IP.

Yeah, looks like you did. Otherwise you wouldn't have bullet pointed it

 

[willothedog]

Removed? Someone better tell Sony about the Wayback machine.

Sony Group Portal - Neil Druckmann

This site introduces the "Creative Entertainment Vision," a long-term vision for where we want Sony to be in the future

web.archive.org

 

[SlimySnake]

Neil forces out another Sony employee.

Neil's list of victims:
1) Amy Henning
2) Justin Richmond
3) Bruce Straley
4) Evan Wells
5) Christoph Balestra
6) Random Sony blog writer

 

[Punished Miku]

Yeah, looks like you did. Otherwise you wouldn't have bullet pointed it

I'm not apologizing to Neil for using bullet points.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I'm not apologizing to Neil for using bullet points.

Don't worry I'm sure he's not as sensitive as you

 

[Mr Moose]

 

[Punished Miku]

Don't worry I'm sure he's not as sensitive as you

You're sure about that?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You're sure about that?

I don't think you'd be able to cope with the level of vitrol he gets when you can't even cope on a forum lmao

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Yo if Neil can get Sony to bend to his will can ya boy get some better PS1 games on selection ASAP? Maybe throw Ico on the PS2 Classics as well.

 

[Topher]

Is this the overreaction to an overreaction thread?

The fuck? I can’t tell if this is soy Sony or arrogant Sony.

Stupid Sony

 

[Loomy]

wtf? Nothing was controversial or misconstrued about what he said…?

At least 1 answer was poorly edited and had words added that he didn't actually say. He shared the actual answer on twitter. I'm guessing if 1 out of 6 was botched to that extent, the other 5 were as well.

Naughty Dog and SIE were probably not entirely happy with it, which is why it's gone.

You're right though. Nothing was controversial in the edited version they put out, but that's what happens when people already hate Neil, and 2 other developers with apparently shitty reading comprehension skills get on twitter to criticize it as well.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Neil forces out another Sony employee.

Neil's list of victims:
1) Amy Henning
2) Justin Richmond
3) Bruce Straley
4) Evan Wells
5) Christoph Balestra
6) Random Sony blog writer

Hopefully the police will be at the next golden globes to photograph this cunt for his mugshot.

 

[RagnarokIV]

I'm not apologizing to Neil for using bullet points.

Loving the new cat photo mate.

 

[RiccochetJ]

The whole last paragraph can be summarized that way. I think you guys just don't know what redefine means. It means non-gamers have a perception about games, and now there's a window to change that with his show and now his next game, and he specifically talks about non-gamers now looking at him after the show. It's an entirely accurate summary. Sure it may not be a word for word direct quote, but I don't particularly find anything he said worthy of this much hand wringing. The words have the same meaning.

I disagree. I think he meant it that people at large are now aware of how deep some games can be narratively and thanks to TV adaptations like Fallout and Last of Us, there is much more interest in what ND next game and potentially other games are going to do next. And he's excited for what those reactions will be. Not that their next game is going to redefine the perceptions. The redefining already happened with the TV adaptations.

 

[ManaByte]

Hopefully the police will be at the next golden globes to photograph this cunt for his mugshot.

Will they use flash?

 

[bender]

The obvious solution is to fire Neil and allocate his salary to fund the next Everybody's Golf.