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Tekken 5: FINAL JUDGMENT - With THROWS...and MORE THROWS...AND STUFF!
- Thread starter Leguna
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LyteEdge,
I spoke with Leguna about what Vark posted. As I guessed, his response is basically going to say that his review is not meant to supplement/substitute the instruction manual. It is simply to state his opinion and feelings on the game. Nothing more. He says that reviews that go into the detail about the story and the more basic game mechanics are what make reviews boring.
What Leguna fails to realize of course is that this "boring stuff" is the part of the review that is informative to the reader. It allows the reader to more accurately judge the opinion of the reviewer. But again, he is not here to be informative, he's just here to give his opinion/feelings on the game.
Mann
I spoke with Leguna about what Vark posted. As I guessed, his response is basically going to say that his review is not meant to supplement/substitute the instruction manual. It is simply to state his opinion and feelings on the game. Nothing more. He says that reviews that go into the detail about the story and the more basic game mechanics are what make reviews boring.
What Leguna fails to realize of course is that this "boring stuff" is the part of the review that is informative to the reader. It allows the reader to more accurately judge the opinion of the reviewer. But again, he is not here to be informative, he's just here to give his opinion/feelings on the game.
Mann
Leguna, EVERYONE can make their own decision about graphics by seeing a game in motion. These reviews feel like 15 minute impressions. Talk about the game man... You CAN give anecdotes about gameplay and still make the review sound cool.
This final judgement actually makes me hate Tekken, which I didn't think was possible. :lol
This final judgement actually makes me hate Tekken, which I didn't think was possible. :lol
Mr. Rellik
Member
I don't know why I thought of this thread again, but I needed a laugh so I read through it and watched his "review".
Still Hilarious
*Bump* for those that might have missed it.
Still Hilarious
*Bump* for those that might have missed it.
Kabuki Waq
Member
"you didnt get the memo?"
Mr. Rellik
Member
Why the hell not? Its a hilarious review.
I'm sure i've opened the "Its the best fighter evar!!!!!!" can of worms again.
Here's hoping they balance the tiers better in the next upgrade. Top 3 > all else
I'm sure i've opened the "Its the best fighter evar!!!!!!" can of worms again.
Here's hoping they balance the tiers better in the next upgrade. Top 3 > all else
WTF? Tekken 5 (PAL) has the worst AI since Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Fall down or be juggled once and you have absolutely NO chance to win the round anymore. Is THIS supposed to be "balance"? Losing to Panda and Jack-5 with a "perfect" (continuously)?
Namco better fix that for Soul Calibur III otherwise they can keep that crap.
Clearly the worst Tekken on PS2 in terms of gameplay. It seems they've forgotten what's "fun" supposed to be.
Very sad because I really love the rest of the game (except the extremely dumb cut scenes and Jinpachi)
Namco better fix that for Soul Calibur III otherwise they can keep that crap.
Clearly the worst Tekken on PS2 in terms of gameplay. It seems they've forgotten what's "fun" supposed to be.
Very sad because I really love the rest of the game (except the extremely dumb cut scenes and Jinpachi)
Maybe you just suck?
I don't have any problem with retaliating from juggles and beatdowns (on hard mode). Are you rolling away when you land? If not then I wouldn't be surprised but, if not, then what you're saying really doesn't happen from my experience of it (Pal version as well)
I don't have any problem with retaliating from juggles and beatdowns (on hard mode). Are you rolling away when you land? If not then I wouldn't be surprised but, if not, then what you're saying really doesn't happen from my experience of it (Pal version as well)
Of course I roll away after landing. But somehow the AI always manages to start a 5-Hit-Minimum combo. And no, I don't suck, I had no problems beating TTT and T4 on higher difficulty settings. Plus I'm playing with Nina - fast, strong, long range - but it doesn't really help.
Another thing that makes me wonder if there was any QA is that the AI sometimes just lets the enemy stand around and do nothing. I just beat Jinpachi with Marduk at my first try. Next I chose Raven and was beaten by Jinpachi 15 times in a row.
Another thing that makes me wonder if there was any QA is that the AI sometimes just lets the enemy stand around and do nothing. I just beat Jinpachi with Marduk at my first try. Next I chose Raven and was beaten by Jinpachi 15 times in a row.
I'm not sure what to say. I'm not doubting you (and I was only joking when I said maybe you suck) but I haven't had any problems with the AI and this is the first negative thing I've read about the AI. In my experience the AI has been very good, especially in arcade mode.
I hate Jinpachi though...worst boss ever. There's no point trying to be technical playing against because he has so many unblockable moves and projectiles. He just doesn't fit in with the rest of the game tbh
I hate Jinpachi though...worst boss ever. There's no point trying to be technical playing against because he has so many unblockable moves and projectiles. He just doesn't fit in with the rest of the game tbh
People who like rubbishing Vf4~ should take a trip to Japan and see exactly which game is the most popular arcade fighter. Those guys don't spend hours in the arcades day and day for their image; they do it because they enjoy playing VF competitively. Tekken 5 has become relatively popular, but that'll all change again when VF5 hits.
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123rl said:
Yeah, I don't get the AI hate. Of course it's not better than a person, but at least it doesn't feel like it "cheats" you. It's actual pretty good if you want learn how to counter some simple strings and juggle setups, cuz the AI busts them out all the time. They still don't have the AI performing some of the advanced juggles you see people doing though
Jinpachi though....god damn. Seems like every fighting game nowadays has a crappy ass last boss with bullshit unblockables and cheesy AI.
Lyte Edge said:
It's not like we know much, just info from Arcadia and a limited test. It's possible they'll add more stuff when it's time for major testing or release. Even a few extra stages and items would be nice. But even if it is just tweaks it still needs a home release.
OK, now I officially hate this game: After 15 hours into the game it suddenly decides to erase its own memory card data. I got over it, started playing again and - what a surprise - the data was corrupted again (with the other games data still being there and functioning). I'll try it again on my other memory card but if this happens again - every upcoming Namco game: sales -1
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Bebpo said:
Hello, my name is Tobal 2. Please rip off my countering/grappling system, Team Ninja. Thanks!
Turn autosave off altogether; it's evil. Our group has lost data more than once with autosave on even though we definitely don't turn the game off while it's saving. But with autosave off we've never lost data.
I wonder what version tourneys will use if 5.1 doesn't get a home release.
I wonder what version tourneys will use if 5.1 doesn't get a home release.
Mr. Rellik
Member
bob_arctor said:
Hello, my name is Tobal 2. Please rip off my countering/grappling system, Team Ninja. Thanks!
As someone that's never played tobal 2, are you saying that the countering system is like that or that tobal 2 has a worthy system that needs to be copied? Sounded more like the latter
Hi. I started playing as Feng last month. b+1 into b+1+2 is so good.
I hate those dungeon missions where you have to play like 20 matches to get to the end. I also lost my MvsC2 data for DC and just gave up. There's way too many hidden characters to unlock and the one player is just boring. They really need to release button codes to unlock everything a few months after these games come out. It's horrible when you set up a Tekken gathering and nobody thinks to bring a memory card.
I hate those dungeon missions where you have to play like 20 matches to get to the end. I also lost my MvsC2 data for DC and just gave up. There's way too many hidden characters to unlock and the one player is just boring. They really need to release button codes to unlock everything a few months after these games come out. It's horrible when you set up a Tekken gathering and nobody thinks to bring a memory card.
Anyanka said:
Yeah, and he's got so many setups to bait people into getting hit by b+1 counter. He's fun. 5.1 is not going to be good to him, though. -10 b+1 is bad.
Where are the rumors of new characters for 5.1 coming from? Someplace legit? That'd be really cool.
Yeah, they really do. It's even funnier when it happens at a tourney. There was some SC2 tourney I went to, probably one of those awful VGames tournies, where they didn't have a memory card with SC2 data on it and someone was frantically playing through conquest to unlock at least most of the hidden characters before the tourney started. Too good, heh.
In Markman's 5.1 update thread at Zaibatsu he says something like "possible 2 new characters, details coming soon". It's all info from Arcadia and credible sources like DUK so I guess it's possible.
And I see he just updated it, saying it's coming out in Japan on the 11th. There's gonna be a flood of new info then.
And I see he just updated it, saying it's coming out in Japan on the 11th. There's gonna be a flood of new info then.
Finaika
Member
I played Tekken 5 at the arcades a few days ago and this Feng player kept on side-stepping and sweep then juggled me for god knows how many hits. Even when I hit the ground he still can keep hitting me. Feng is such a scary character. I beat him like only 3 times with my Asuka while he owned me about 10 times.Anyanka said:
Damn I must practice more...