Spaceman292
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Lunarorbit
Member
Who was the dipshit from kotaku that said recently that technical issues shouldn't impact a games score?
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
The whole game was made by AI
Spaceman292
Banned
I feel like it would make more sense if it was written by AI.
newtypepilot
Member
DarkArterialGore
Member
The annoying thing is that Gollum's publisher "Nacon" actually own the original Styx developer Cyanide
FeralEcho
Member
This îs what i think everytime i see these sorry ass apology letters...Do they seriously not see how much of a parody they have become?! Pathetic
Emedan
Member
Bing could've made a better game.. Who thought it was a good Idea to make a game about Gollum? I remember the reveal of this and I asked myself that very question in a thread here.
Agent_Nobody
Member
KormaChameleon
Member
This would have been a better game.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
According to the developers, she is the most beautiful elf in the video game
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
I mean... it could've worked.
It could've been a game similar in style to Styx, which was a great stealth-with-little-combat game.
Even the strengths of Daedalic, the generally good writing and quest structure seen in their point & click games (and others like Blackguard), are practically non-existent here.
How this ended up being a complete clusterfuck in every regard and how anyone could've waved this through during any of the internal milestones (did the publisher even do milestones?!) and why anyone thought they needed to sell this at AAA full-price... that will probably remain a mystery forever unsolved.
The artful mincer
Member
So according to some GAFERS this game will sell millions because the Lord of the Rings IP is massive and that's all that matters.
Spiderman and Hogwarts Legacy sold millions on brand strength alone and NOT because there also good games.
Right guys? Right..? Right...? Guys where you gone?
Spiderman and Hogwarts Legacy sold millions on brand strength alone and NOT because there also good games.
Right guys? Right..? Right...? Guys where you gone?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
A license for a game based on Lord of the Rings won't be cheap.
Skifi28
Member
You should create a thread about this.
VenomousCoffee
Member
That ..... looks like a reveal trailer from E3 2010.
Emedan
Member
I mean how could it have? Gollum is not an interesting complex character, he's devoured by the Ring, that is all. He doesn't work in interactions with other characters. It's like making a game about someone with mega autism or something, how would you make that work? You need a character to grow, Gollum never could. If we look past that, what interesting stories can we tell about this creature? He is by chance an important character in the destruction of the ring, but who cares what he did before that? He live like a rat and caress his ring.
Lux R7
Member
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Should’ve modeled her after Lizzo for some easy virtue signaling points. SMH.
According to the developers, she is the most beautiful elf in the video game
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
The ring of wrath
Gollum in Friendzone xD
TLZ
Banned
I wouldn't buy it for $5 even.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
These devs should be exiled from the industry.
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
I was talking about the gameplay.
Gollum as a character is a baffling choice to begin with, yes.
But games are, as the name implies, about gameplay. I could live with a subpar character and story if the gameplay makes up for it.
Styx wasn't exactly the best writing ever, either. But at least there you cared about what was happening somewhat.
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Rocco Schiavone
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
That game was awesome
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Silent Viper
Banned
Best review ever
Lmao
Lmao
MasterCornholio
Member
finally, we have a worthy competitor
www.ign.com
Testament: The Order of High Human Review - IGN
A bland, frustrating, and buggy fantasy adventure that would have been a bad four-hour Skyrim knockoff. At 40 hours, it’s hard to bear.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Game Two have published a video report on Gollum failings. It's in German so hopefully they'll be adding English subtitles at some point in the future.
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
I'm a German native, the auto-translated subtitles seem to be fine.
Not perfect, but definitely enough to get what is going on.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
For example, that the team size was only about 85 people. Not even half the size of usual AAA dev teams.What does it say in the video?
Or that the overall budget was a meager 15 million Euros, because Daedalic did not find any additional investors that had any faith in them. Bear in mind with this one, though, that they also earned 30 million+ € from selling the company to Nacon, so I'm not sure if that was included in the number or not. Either way, we're talking about a VERY small budget here.
Or that a good chunk of them were very likely low-pay (if at all) interns.
Or that crunch in the company used to be normal and expected (incl. of course, unpaid overtime).
Or that their CEO was internally feared for his rather abusive outbursts.
Or that the actual idea for the game did not come from Daedalic, but King Art Games (which was hired to do a bunch of project ideas for them, among them this Gollum pearl) and then Middle Earth Enterprises picked that one for whatever reason. So as guilty as Daedalic is for many things, the vision of the project was not theirs apparently.
Or that the famous Twitter apology was not written by Daedalic, but the French owner/publisher Nacon and according to "anonymous" sources really was written with ChatGPT.
Or that the team itself was shocked that someone would publish the original gameplay trailer based on the state of the game at that point and the reception to it dealt quite a blow to them.
All in all, some things I had no idea about (like the minimal budget and team size), but IMO the video still fails to address some reasons for failure, like even the basic idea being doomed to failure already even if it had all been implemented amazingly.
Or the looks of Gollum himself not yielding a "mixed" reception, but an overwhelming negative one.
German media, especially state-funded one such as ZDF which produced this video, is known to be overly "nice" (some might just bluntly say dishonest) in its reportings, so that's not super surprising. They won't lie to you, but you'll sure find some omissions or "positive interpretations" such as these.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Wasn't there at the time of me posting the video in this thread. But anyway, that was fast!The title even says [ENG SUB] :B
Altough I'm not a big fan of GameTwo no more, this mini documentary was quiete interesesting.
TheSHEEEP summed it up quiete well.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
I think I'm the only one who bought the game on PS5 here on the forum, I did it because of the reviews and and people opinión about this game... I wanted to try it for myself... The game itself is Atrocious!!! As much as I humbly want to see something positive, it's very difficult for me... And I've only been here for 1 hour and 30 minutes!!!
I'll try to finish it.
Stop this song, it's screeching.!!!
I even had to turn down the volume on my headphones.
When I started the game it had many technical errors and I had to download a patch that is almost the same size as the game xD.
But if i finishes the game, it will be a personal achievement.
I'll try to finish it.
Stop this song, it's screeching.!!!
I even had to turn down the volume on my headphones.
When I started the game it had many technical errors and I had to download a patch that is almost the same size as the game xD.
But if i finishes the game, it will be a personal achievement.
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TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
Dazraell
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
As a video game expert, I have tried games with a score of less than 5, such as God Hand and they have been great, or The Callisto Protocol, which I really liked, and since I have willpower, what I started I must finish... It will be a arduous task. I know, but I'll test how far my mind can handle this game.
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
I've seen stranger fetishes, so this one is fine.As a video game expert, I have tried games with a score of less than 5, such as God Hand and they have been great, or The Callisto Protocol, which I really liked, and since I have willpower, what I started I must finish... It will be a arduous task. I know, but I'll test how far my mind can handle this game.
God Hand is rated very highly, though.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
In fact, I never pay attention to video game reviews, for 15 dollars I said... It will be such a bad game?? , but yes indeed... The game is horrible. I even broke this sequence of the game...
I activated the explosions and went to hide.... Nothing happened and the scenario is the same... Until I jumped and the cutscene sequence came out.... Wtf???
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Urrgggg.
This game made me waste an hour of progress, I was in this scene specifically.
A scene where I have to follow a queen, suddenly when loading the checkpoint, my console found the file corrupted and I had to restart the level from the third chapter!!! I lost an hour of progress.
Because that game only has one save file, it's not like other games that let you save several backup files.
This game requires extreme patience, because of how poorly made it is.
This game made me waste an hour of progress, I was in this scene specifically.
A scene where I have to follow a queen, suddenly when loading the checkpoint, my console found the file corrupted and I had to restart the level from the third chapter!!! I lost an hour of progress.
Because that game only has one save file, it's not like other games that let you save several backup files.
This game requires extreme patience, because of how poorly made it is.
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bender
What time is it?
$15 is a lot though. I say that as someone that wants to play this, Kong and that Walking Dead game. I'll give them a dollar for each...maybe.