AlimNassor
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Thank god Texas isn't there. At least there in Houston people are pretty tolerant and diverse.
It's a giant slum for everyone.
It's a giant slum for everyone.
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The Worst States for African Americans
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False Witness
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I wonder how Indianapolis ranks as a city.
From MN, a strange thing I have noticed about Wisconsin folks is a clear differentiation if someone is "mixed" black or not. It's fucking weird and I have never heard a Minnesotan talking about it.
Like the connotation is x person is "just mixed" so they are cool. What the fuck.
And yes rural Wisconsin is a nightmare land of trump pence signs.
I went up near the UP in WI for a wedding in October and was blown away by all the trump support. I knew then that Hillary was not gonna win WI, regardless of Madison and Milwaukee.
Doesn't Arizona really dislike Hispanics/Latinos?
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I like how most of those states are states where I am trying, or was trying to attend college. Lit
theignoramus
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Joe Arpaio seemed like a nice guy. Real humane sort.
Not to be negative, but with these rankings it could just be other places have gotten a whole lot worse rather than those states having gotten substantially better.
If you split the cities off from the rest of the states a whole lot of the states on this list would look a whole lot better, but then that's kind of masking the fact that state policy has a whole lot to do with improving outcomes for people. Can't just sit in our cities and pretend we're all enlightened when that actively hurts everyone around who can't move there.
Yeah, I'd really like to see how the sort of GA/NC/TX urbanized South ranks in this. I have a feeling they'll all be hovering around the midpoint, but I can't be sure.
We do. But don't let that fool you. We still face adversity here too.
Most escaped slaves were delivered to (and settled in) Ontario. Nova Scotia was an important end point to the route on the Atlantic coast but was minor in comparison.
Edit: there's some interesting history involving the integration of freed American slaves in Canadian society.
Andrew Korenchkin
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From the OP website, they used information from their "Black and White Inequality in all 50 states" list from August to help determine the top 10 worst states for black people list in the OP. This source list is for all 50 states, but as the title suggests this list is for "Black and white Inequality" based on incarceration, education, and segregation between black people and white people in each of the 50 states, so the order is different in the top 10 for this list vs the OP:
Segregation is alive and well in the United States. It's enforced via discrimination via real estate laws. In my hometown, there is a white and black part of town separated by tracks despite the local school being one of the first to de-segregate.
The thing that happens most of the time is rich white people send their children to private schools so they don't have to interact with minorities or poor people. They withdraw from the community and isolate themselves completely and the school systems become absolute shit.
These are the same people who pretend to be progressive and liberal, and make sure to remind you how they donate money to the poor, attend fun-runs for puppies, and attend steak dinners for non-profits they can write-off on their taxes. Not only are they entertained, but they can buy peace of mind.
They can live near industry and under-developed, underfunded communities, while completely insulating themselves from any of the pain and difficult work of living in said communities. This is what turning public planning into pseudo-capitalism has done.
It has transformed personal bigots into unaffected, bystanders to how terrible things have become for anyone trying to get ahead, disproportionately impacting minority communities.
I am not surprised at all the North East has these issues. It is an understood, appreciated reality. In an, "oh so that's why it's like that. I didn't even realize. Someone should really change that" way. "We should really talk about this in our next association meeting at the Union League."
The thing that happens most of the time is rich white people send their children to private schools so they don't have to interact with minorities or poor people. They withdraw from the community and isolate themselves completely and the school systems become absolute shit.
These are the same people who pretend to be progressive and liberal, and make sure to remind you how they donate money to the poor, attend fun-runs for puppies, and attend steak dinners for non-profits they can write-off on their taxes. Not only are they entertained, but they can buy peace of mind.
They can live near industry and under-developed, underfunded communities, while completely insulating themselves from any of the pain and difficult work of living in said communities. This is what turning public planning into pseudo-capitalism has done.
It has transformed personal bigots into unaffected, bystanders to how terrible things have become for anyone trying to get ahead, disproportionately impacting minority communities.
I am not surprised at all the North East has these issues. It is an understood, appreciated reality. In an, "oh so that's why it's like that. I didn't even realize. Someone should really change that" way. "We should really talk about this in our next association meeting at the Union League."
You can't blame people for wanting to send their kids to a good school. A lot of public schools are shit these days. Also, buying a house is an investment, so naturally people look for land that will hold value.
It has nothing to do with race (all races do this).
Lord Frieza
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TN at 19 really surprises me. I figured it'd be higher on the list.
Black people moving into your neighborhoods don't bring property values down. No matter how bad they want you to believe it. White flight is real.
theignoramus
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You cant enforce a racist housing policy till the 70s and 80s, then say "welp, nothing to do with race. Its a class issue!" as the fallout unfolds for decades before your eyes.
What lunacy.
Secret Fawful
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Hmm. [snicker]
As someone who lives in Missouri, I'm shocked it's so far down the list, but I guess the cities make up for the rural areas? There's still a ton of racism in the cities too, though...
And those are just the official housing policies.
to be fair, they did vote him out now though
My parents second home is there. Real estate used (still does) cost sub 100,000. It's not bad, but tbh I find NH a little dull.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I can attest to PA. Corbett massively cut school funding to the Philadelphia school district which is overwhelmingly black. It was sad visiting some of those school with super old books and packed classes with a teacher who couldn't control anything
Like that environment set so many kids back it's not even funny. Nothing was being learned
Like that environment set so many kids back it's not even funny. Nothing was being learned
Ravensmash
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What's Wyoming like in general?
As a Brit who loves the scenery when I view it on Google Maps, a state that size with a population that low sounds awesome.
As a Brit who loves the scenery when I view it on Google Maps, a state that size with a population that low sounds awesome.
Mammoth Jones
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Intended.
karasu
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Military. When I was there, I was the only black dude at my school after I transferred from the one with all of the military kids.
LordKasual
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and even if I don't visit somewhere on this list
i still have plenty of fun bathroom rest stop messages to read while taking a piss elsewhere
lets be honest, it sucks being black everywhere in America. It really all comes down to specific communities and silver linings.
also feels great to have the news report on black people as if they don't exist / live in some distant country or some shit
its bad for us, i can't imagine what it's like to be a fucking native american
i still have plenty of fun bathroom rest stop messages to read while taking a piss elsewhere
lets be honest, it sucks being black everywhere in America. It really all comes down to specific communities and silver linings.
also feels great to have the news report on black people as if they don't exist / live in some distant country or some shit
its bad for us, i can't imagine what it's like to be a fucking native american
Except the consequences has a lot to do with race.
mattwhite924
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Honestly this doesn't surprise me.
I grew up in the South (TN to be specific), and was shocked when I moved out of it later in life to find that everywhere else I went seemed more racist.
I mean yeah, the South is racist. No doubt about it, but other places are terrible. And to make it worse, they often think that they're not.
It's just anecdotal I know, but it still shocks me.
I grew up in the South (TN to be specific), and was shocked when I moved out of it later in life to find that everywhere else I went seemed more racist.
I mean yeah, the South is racist. No doubt about it, but other places are terrible. And to make it worse, they often think that they're not.
It's just anecdotal I know, but it still shocks me.
family_guy
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I don't know. After reading it, it seems like if you don't have a college education, then you will have a tougher time in life. That's nothing new. I'd rather see studies based on the people who have earned at least a bachelor's degree and see how they are turning out compared to other races.
BlackClouds
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Kind of an oxymoron to say there's any best states for Black people.
Aeternus Malum
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I'm glad considering I just moved here
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Figured Ohio would be top 5
theignoramus
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Its about damage limitation and its clear the Rust Belt states are the most hopeless, economically depressed areas to be in.
Wow, Colorado at #8, I didn't expect that tbh.
Georgia at #37? Hmmm. When I was a kid (I was born in late '72), they closed down to park pool in my town in Georgia to keep the blacks out, and the place we did go swimming literally had a sign out front that said "No blacks".
My mom was married to a black man in middle Georgia for most of my childhood, so I spent from 9 until around 16 in a pretty much 100% black neighborhood other than the two of us.
We got the burning cross on the lawn when I was 12.
Georgia at #37? Hmmm. When I was a kid (I was born in late '72), they closed down to park pool in my town in Georgia to keep the blacks out, and the place we did go swimming literally had a sign out front that said "No blacks".
My mom was married to a black man in middle Georgia for most of my childhood, so I spent from 9 until around 16 in a pretty much 100% black neighborhood other than the two of us.
We got the burning cross on the lawn when I was 12.
Byakuya769
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What makes it better?
I have a nice post about New Hampshire, but this post is rock to my scissors.
I still think CT is pound for pound the worst and ME can just be avoided.
Velcro Fly
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Would have never guessed Indiana would be the cream of the racial equality crop for the Midwest
Admiral Woofington
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major texas cities are all, if not largely, blue. The issue lies with the counties spanning the smaller towns. I don't see those counties going democrat unless they lose all hope from the republicans to keep their jobs in place.
Kid Kamikaze10
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I am happy CT is on this list. Fucking deserved.
Progressive, a lot of money coming in...
For white people. Only reason my family is doing alright is because my mom is too damn good at her job. And she has an american first name.
If any state was a personification of in state white flight, CT is up there.
Progressive, a lot of money coming in...
For white people. Only reason my family is doing alright is because my mom is too damn good at her job. And she has an american first name.
If any state was a personification of in state white flight, CT is up there.
Hickbilly Deluxe
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As someone born and raised in the midwest, I can honestly say we mostly feel the same way about people from the coasts. I think we all just need to agree that in general, none of us really like anyone else that isn't from our area of the country.
Already Torn
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But everybody hates the Midwest. It's not even nice to visit like the South.
Yeah but took him being under federal civil rights violations to do it.
davidwhangchoi
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There's no real solid -state- for black folks, but there are great cities and ironically enough a lot of them are in shit states for black folk otherwise, where as the 'good' states don't have any particularly great cities. Word up to my ATL/GA folks.
Surprised to see California so low on the list. It's not a bad state in that you have to look over your shoulder for an angry racist when you cross a county line (most of them, there's still those parts) but it's a SHIT state for black people in terms of real prosperity. There's a lot of us, but sectioned off to the other side of the bridge, and I say this as a black man that resides in the bay works in tech, etc.
Nimbyism, dogwhistling, bougie liberalism, faux justice outrage central as they steadily underfund minority counties and have just as many police issues.
I honestly don't know which is worse
Surprised to see California so low on the list. It's not a bad state in that you have to look over your shoulder for an angry racist when you cross a county line (most of them, there's still those parts) but it's a SHIT state for black people in terms of real prosperity. There's a lot of us, but sectioned off to the other side of the bridge, and I say this as a black man that resides in the bay works in tech, etc.
Nimbyism, dogwhistling, bougie liberalism, faux justice outrage central as they steadily underfund minority counties and have just as many police issues.
I honestly don't know which is worse
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