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[HeWhoWalks]

Let it go… Not going to happen.

Mass Effect fans said the same thing.

HiFi Rush fans said the same thing.

on ... and ... on.

 

[nemiroff]

Man Microsoft are ruthless to their fans. They're gonna do it slowly. Give them hope and than snatch it away over and over again.

What the fuck does this even mean. I'm so happy I don't subscribe to the fanboy culture. I for one would be a much bigger fan of MS if they contributed even more to the ultimate demise of exclusive games and systems.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Cook little froggies, cook

Fecking dying here

 

[Sephimoth]

"I understand [imagined] that Microsoft has also previously been weighing up the idea of bringing Gears of War, Microsoft Flight Simulator, and even the next Doom game to rival platforms"

 

[Clear]

The only impetus NOT to port more and more titles would be if the competitive balance between Xbox and its rivals started to tilt in its favour.

Which, realistically, isn't likely to happen. In fact it seems way more plausible to assume that Xbox is going to slide further and further behind, because - unless I'm missing something really impactful - they are out of options.

Any Xbox fan who wants to chime in on this, I'd love to hear why I'm misreading the situation.

 

[Blood Borne]

Why do you guys listen to these so called insiders. They just make shit up. Nothing but educated guesses like the rest of us. Why give them this much attention.

 

[VolticArchangel]

Yeah, Gears is coming to PS5 and Switch 2 lol

Edit: PS5 and Switch 2 instead of PS4 and Switch.

 

[Fake]

22 minutes for 4 games, to in the end 'wait there is more'.

Phil must be the ultimate clown in Earth.

 

[Luigi Mario]

oh god this will now continue for the rest of the generation. And Spencer couldn't even stop the next rumours for like 5 minutes, jesus.

Ironically enough, this is what a lot of their faithful feared would happen this week.
Phil Spencer not being clear with his messaging and every game announcement now coming with questions surrounding its exclusivity.

 

[SneakersSO]

Cook little froggies, cook

Boiled frog strat works every time.

 

[Ozriel]

They haven't ruled out putting Indiana Jones on other consoles. Phil admitted that you can't rule out any game going to other consoles. It's just a matter of time before Xbox puts their bigger games on other consoles. They'll make far more money that way than actually making a new expensive console and playing catch up with Sony and Nintendo.

…but you just watched a podcast where they just confirmed they’re making a next generation console, and talked up new (presumably intermediate) hardware reveals for later this year

 

[TheHTIC]

Sounds to me that they're porting 4 games that basically flopped from what I gather. Their bigger games will stay where they are unless something catastrophic happens within xbox. Everything else seems like people's hopes not being confirmed and a bunch of mental gymnastics to read more into it than needed. Overall most of these discussions sounds exactly like rumors based on wrestling. Most of them made up and then when the predictions(sources) are wrong or partially incorrect then you have to save face by basically starting more rumors.

 

[Hunnybun]

Four are coming definitely. He didn't say they were the only ones coming. Phil uses a very slippery way of expression. You need to close attention to what he says.

He should've been a politician. Basically with him unless he explicitly denies something, you can guarantee it'll happen.

No decisions are going to be made based on how fucking HiFi Rush sells on Playstation. This is just the first phase. If there is still a decision over whether to bring everything, it'll be on something much more significant than how these 4 games sell. More likely, the decision's already been made and it's just a matter of trying to minimise the bad PR.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Sounds to me that they're porting 4 games that basically flopped from what I gather. Their bigger games will stay where they are unless something catastrophic happens within xbox. Everything else seems like people's hopes not being confirmed and a bunch of mental gymnastics to read more into it than needed. Overall most of these discussions sounds exactly like rumors based on wrestling. Most of them made up and then when the predictions(sources) are wrong or partially incorrect then you have to save face by basically starting more rumors.

Considering this, other games might be under consideration. Now whether it happens or not remains to be seen, but I highly doubt these four games are it.

 

[TheGodfather07]

What the fuck does this even mean. I'm so happy I don't subscribe to the fanboy culture. I for one would be a much bigger fan of MS if they contributed even more to the ultimate demise of exclusive games and systems.

I'm already seeing many xbox fanboys saying starfield and indiana Jones will never come to PS5 or switch. Those same fanboys will have another meltdown just like they have been over the last month. Microsoft already know there's more coming but they chose not to reveal that information. Remember I'm talking about the hardcore fans here. Majority of the audience isn't even aware of this shit at all. Microsoft know who they're talking to here.

 

[lefty1117]

Not sure who Tom Warren is or why I should listen to him but he seems to be wrong

 

[Punished Miku]

The truth is finally coming out. Starfield will be on PS5 by the end of this year or early next year.

DLC and mod support. Mod support will make it a "community game." Starfield on PS5 benefits community, blah, blah, blah.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

 

[GHG]

Cook little froggies, cook

Don't forget about the chicken.

 

[DForce]

Phil does great PR work for the Xbox community. He knows they're just going to focus on the "4 games" part and run with it.

Just wait until number 5 or 6 hits. It's going to be hilarious.

 

[killatopak]

DLC and mod support. Mod support will make it a "community game." Starfield on PS5 benefits community, blah, blah, blah.

Honestly, most console Bethesda mods are just ports from the PC side.

If you really want to have more Starfield mods, you have to push Bethesda to make official mod tools for PC and make them better.

 

[GHG]

Yes, i just want to mislead customers on my platform.

That's literally all he's ever done.

 

[KillaJamm]

Does this guy just write whatever pops into his head, like where is he getting this information? It's like he had a template and just inserts franchise names ready to get more clicks Let's see what the first 4 games are, then we need to see if they even sell well. I mean I have an Xbox and haven't even played Grounded, Hi Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves or Pentiment (the presumed games). Says it all really.

 

[Lupin25]

phil did say exclusives are a smaller and smaller part of the industry... makes sense

To whom?

Because it’s certainly not for Nintendo or PS.

This month alone, Xbox is locked out of:

FFVII Rebirth
Helldivers 2
Pacific Drive
Granblue Fantasy: Relink
Foamstars
Mario vs. Donkey Kong

 

[jroc74]

But Phil didnt say this on the podcast!!!

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Phil won't lie to us, would he?

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

This forum goes full retard every time this cunt makes a tweet. Maybe it's time to put the whole "insiders" thing to rest? The joke ain't funny anymore.
Stop giving these folks this "power". Ignore them. Play some games.

Agree with this.

It’s just all too convenient that he knows this “now”

If there’s one thing g we’ve learned about this past week or so is that these insiders are mostly full of clout chasing shit.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Phil won't lie to us, would he?

That was when they had 4 studios, TBF.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

That was when they had 4 studios, TBF.

Oh, now he will tell us the honest truth because his division burned 80+ billions.

Okay.

After FTC leaks I honestly can't comprehend why people are taking anything said by Xbox about everything at face value.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Let’s bring a bunch of niche games that don’t move the needle in order to improve the business.

But oh, we haven’t decided on the biggest games that could actually have an impact on the business

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Cook little froggies, cook

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Flight sim should be on all platforms. Flying should be available to all.

 

[Darsxx82]

the best part of the ‘has been considering’ line of ‘leaks’ from insiders is that nobody can call you out when you’re wrong. You’ll just say they considered and changed their minds.

Warren talked about a big game coming and had a Verge article heavily hinting at a day one port of Indiana Jones.

All wrong.

It sounds like his reaction to save his face after saying that he was clear about the arrival of Indiana Jones on PS5 a couple of months after the XSX version....

It is clear that more XBOX games will come to PS5 and switch. You can't keep all ABK and Bethesda Studios and projects exclusive and expect most of them to be profitable. But it is clear that there are red lines about which games are interested in launching exclusively, which are temporary exclusives, and which are one day one. I believe that in the end the decisions will be made according to the moment and the need.

 

[Bojanglez]

Based off Sea Of Thieves and Grounded coming to Playstation I can see Flight Sim coming as well. They want you guys spending your whole paycheck buying digital airplanes.

I expect they're just busy optimising for PSVR2

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Phil won't lie to us, would he?

Phil Spencer is such a goddamn meme joke at this point

 

[GHG]

 

[reinking]

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Ironically enough, this is what a lot of their faithful feared would happen this week.
Phil Spencer not being clear in his messaging and every game announcement now coming with questions surrounding its exclusivity.

He was very clear:

Games are on the table after at least a year.

The rest was nothing but "stay positive" and "please be excited".

 

[mejin]

Phil won't lie to us, would he?

Today he said just 4 games. Tomorrow only Sweet baby Jesus knows.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

It has been made. They will go to other consoles.

Every game they announce going forward, one of the dominant questions will be about a PlayStation/Nintendo release.

They should of been honest today, I don’t think they were.

 

[TheHTIC]

Considering this, other games might be under consideration. Now whether it happens or not remains to be seen, but I highly doubt these four games are it.

I doubt it too, but I don't think we'll be seeing Halo, GOW, Forza, etc.

 

[CamHostage]

Flight sim should be on all platforms. Flying should be available to all.

Feels like a likely 4th or 5th move-over choice (albeit it'd be interesting to have that name "Microsoft Flight Simulator" on PlayStation Store... though the same thing happened when MS Word/Excel and other apps came back over to Apple hardware way back when.) It'd make more money in its marketplace, it'd extend its tail of audience attachment, it'd port over I imagine just fine, and it wouldn't rock the Xbox boat much (IMO.)

PS could use a flight sim, so it could find an audience there too. Whatever happened with the Dovetail deal for Flight Simulator before MS brought it back in house, they were never able to get off a console version of Flight Sim World or their other flight sims. And nobody else is doing this scale of flight simulator (aside from very specific, niche flight enthusiast companies.) So it'd be nice to see it shared, and I think FS is one of those that never really defined itself by its Xbox branding (albeit it was a nice next-gen exclusive back when Xbox Series needed to show off its strengths.) I think it would weather expansion to other platforms just fine.

 

[kruis]

"Next year"

Your optimism is adorable.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Literally no point in any of these potential console claims they are putting out there.
Outside of a handheld- a powerful next gen console sounds like a waste or just a diversion for now.

It is a waste, one big reason is they hardly ever showcase its capabilities.

Look at how quickly the “most powerful console” narrative evaporated with 1X and Series X.

 

[Pop]

Phil lies every time he opens his mouth.

Just give me Halo on Playstation already

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

That's literally all he's ever done.

People has the memory of goldfish. And bombshell e-mail FTC trial leaks were only last summer, lol.

 

[Moses85]

Via Tom Warren:

The green guy, right on the picture is called Master Chief btw

But

 

[DForce]

Notice how Phil said "4 games" but didn't mention Microsoft releasing As Dusks Falls on PlayStation?

 

[kruis]

Considering this, other games might be under consideration. Now whether it happens or not remains to be seen, but I highly doubt these four games are it.

What did people expect? That MS would announce all of their games to be available on PS5 on day from now on?

The first four games are probably the furthest along in the porting process but there'll be more in the pipeline. But there's no need to announce them now. It will cause panic among Xbox fans, and besides that, studios need time to add PS5/Switch/Switch 2 to their development pipeline. For some studios it will be easy since they're already using a multiplatform 3D engine like Unreal or Unity, for other studios with proprietary 3D engines it's going to take much more time to support other platforms. And then there's the problem of finding the right places on the release calendar for these games so they'll get their chance to shin and rack up sales without being overshadowed by bigger releases. Just look at Sony, they've been porting games to PC for a couple of years now and even now they haven't yet released Ghost of Tsushima (or Bloodborne) yet.

 

[Luigi Mario]

Team probably doesn't even have devkits at this point.

Notice how the games that are supposed to be released for now are from studios that already have PS5 devkits - maybe with exception of rare.

Wouldn't be so sure about it, remember these are the same guys who developed the Plague Tale games.