Hip Hop
Member
But didn't the ESRB confirm the rating of AO to Hatred?
http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/16/7557639/hatred-esrb-ao-rating
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Twitch bans Adults Only games
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But didn't the ESRB confirm the rating of AO to Hatred?
http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/16/7557639/hatred-esrb-ao-rating
Impeccable
Member
Why do people always find either the same streamer that is known for insane milking of their audience (SeriousGaming) or some random girl to make a point about twitch?
No wonder mainstream media does the same to manipulate their audience, this shit works.
Edit: Good decision on Twitch's part.
No wonder mainstream media does the same to manipulate their audience, this shit works.
Edit: Good decision on Twitch's part.
HappehLemons
Member
Anyone who says this is censorship has no idea what that word means. This is a good call.
uNLESS Some dude is shoving his dick into any of her holes, there is no borderline anythingAdults Only games are verbotent, but borderline prostitution is still perfectly cool with Twitch:
bakerbakes
Member
Amen brother.
Theonik
Member
What's funnier is that Mature is 17+ and AO is 18+ which is completely negligible, especially considering 17 is already past the age of consent in most states, so these teens are probably already out there having sex themselves. Yet, a separate rating somehow is needed and must be made a huge deal out of to protect the children for their last 12 months till they can tell their parents to fuck off outright. *shrug*
Messofanego
Banned
If it was confirmed in Jan 2015 (~5 months ago), why isn't the game on ESRB's website along with the other 26 AO games on there? This could just be Polygon's Ben Kuchera not being good at sourcing or showing proof of confirmation.
or like watching people play the likes of manhunt 2 which is AO on the US but is viewed the same as any other 18 rated game in the UK. i'm not sure everyone wins tbh. if all AO games from the US's point of view are barred. then it means some games are being wrongfully censored as a UK viewer/streamer. i should be alowed to watch or stream manhunt 2 in the UK, why am i being punished becasue the US rating board is a more sensitive bunch?
hence why it should be regional.
Boomstompfloppy
Banned
It's fairly ignorant to assume prostitution only involves penetration
Not as ignorant as assuming showing some cleavage = prostitution
Pathfinder
Member
Don't get upset. Own it.
Anyway, the timing is rather suspect. It's called reading between the lines. Subtext.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
ed nvm
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
MAN, now I have to look up porn. Gosh.
Pathfinder
Member
Disagree with me if you want to, that's your right.
But it doesn't take a literary genius to realize they could have made this announcement any other time than when they did.
No, it's got nothing to do with the imminent release of a notorious game that was believed to have an AO rating. Nothing at all. It's all about E3, where this policy will be totally relevant given the number of AO games on PS4 and XBone. Which is zero.
This is probably being enforced because of Hatred, but it's not like Twitch has a monopoly on game streaming. And honestly, if Twitch wants to police themselves into not supporting certain games, they are well within their rights to do so. Honestly, it's their site, their brand and they can enforce it how they want. If you feel that's bad, go to Hitbox, which is a much better streaming site, just without the viewer base.
Should I start streaming with no shirt on to hopefully get the bear and bara loving audience to pay me money?
Should I start streaming with no shirt on to hopefully get the bear and bara loving audience to pay me money?
The Twitchstapo will come into streams and start arresting streamers
Rekki-Maru
Banned
I found out about this a couple of months ago. 1 of my favorite streamers does these funny "fan service" streams for games like DOAX etc. She got gifted one of them dating sim games and started playing it, and someone in chat was all "you'll get your channel shutdown if you play that" she didn't want to take a chance and switched the stream over to hitbox. Fuck twitch if they want to be like that, babysitter's club bullshit.
Diablohead
Member
That's how it seems to happen with other bans, out of the blue.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Hilarious. Remember The Boxcar Children?
I didn't realize PlayBoy: The Mansion had an expansion called Private Party that was AO. I just remember the base game was rated M and I didn't know anyone playing it at the time.
Thrill Kill wasn't even released.
My question is, are they going to watch for which version gets streamed? Indigo Prophecy just had an "-"HD''-" version. I don't know of anyone who'd stream Manhunt 2 at the moment unless they were doing a throwback stream. I've played the obvious games on this Wiki list. I just have to wonder if they're going to watch for the version. You could still play some ports of GTA:SA. Which is BS if they cut out those games just because a selected versions, but they have the all mighty power with choice selection here. An AO is an AO based on its version. It doesn't mean the game is AO. That to me is being a little nit picky.
"Hey let me bootleg this copy of PlayBoy The Mansion, but don't ban me because I didn't install the expansion" or "I can't wait to play Indigo Prophecy, but they're watching for the title screen".
Is HuniePop banned?
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
HuniePop was banned way before this.
Here's the list of banned games:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1992676-list-of-prohibited-games, which was updated yesterday.
Here's the list of banned games:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1992676-list-of-prohibited-games, which was updated yesterday.
lol, Then im an ignorant guy. Unless there is some kind of touching involved, then its not prostituting. Then again, people can just put the line wherever they want to make their point.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Seriously? AO games have been banned in stores forever, but you don't see M/T/E10+ games getting banned.
Stupid slippery slope argument is stupid.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
I'm pretty sure he was joking with that post.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
When it comes to San Andreas I'm not even sure how they would. The Hot Coffee stuff was buried in the disc's files and is near-impossible to activate regularly so other than obviously modded versions of the game the AO and M versions should look identical, right?
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I get flustered when people bring it. An average Joe isn't going to have access to it. It was found by hackers and everyone who was told about it believed it and they still believe that you can control people having sex. The sex in GTA isn't even thought provoking. There's not even nudity. They're just acting it out and you get to see the body's go up and down. Even when you date a stripper you hear them and that's it. I've seen the mod and it's nothing like everyone made it out to be. Wolfenstein: TNO had done more with its sex scenes IMO. Getting a girlfriend in GTA has more nudity and then it's just a fake set of breasts. You have to watch out for a bouncer and wow isn't that better than actually spending money at a strip club? I'm not going to strip clubs because the game is more entertaining.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Coffee_mod - You could play "How do you do it?" and have more control over naked dolls. It's like someone got offended when someone placed two barbie dolls inside a Barbie house, naked, on top their bed.
Even if it was found. It didn't imply it was meant for a user to use. You could hide jpegs and etc under textures right? You could do what programmers do and rename files to say vulgar things. Your average consumer won't see that. IMO parents who make love and create loud noises cause more harm. Video Games are scripted.
People get scared and they think 17+ or 18+ ratings mean their kids are being enticed to play the game. Mass Effect was another example of that. They go beyond the ratings boards and they try to parent it like it's pornography. It's not even close to their ideas. They should try boycotting R rated films or the violence in the books they buy their kids to read.
Banning GTA for that is beyond hypocritical for anyone to say if they're going to allow other games with brothels and the like. Even with God of War on PS2 you didn't see this incredible danger some make it out to be.
Their list is beyond dated. The M replaced AO many years ago. I'm not saying that's with everything, but an M does way more than a lot of games that actually cater to the market inside of AO.
I wouldn't go to an M rated game when the internet is about 100 times worse and kids have more access to it more than they did when I was young. I don't even see why they would be that thrilled when the naked skin is a texture without a real face attached to it.
What sucks even more is that we can't go beyond a ratings system either. We can do it with movies and music, but its like people average the consumer as the rating on the box. That's pathetic to me.
Bububub she shows the tops of her boobs! What a slut! She should obviously be banned and its soooooooooo not far other REAL streamers don't make money.
partyphone
Banned
isn't it banned for not being a game of any kind?
HappehLemons
Member
Why are people saying Manhunt 2 is rated AO?
I've seen it on sale and it's rated M
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=manhunt+2
Am I missing something here?
I've seen it on sale and it's rated M
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=manhunt+2
Am I missing something here?
It's AO and unedited on PC.
Thats weird. Sakurai Spirit has no nudity (though it does get close) and HuniePop has a censored version.
And people have a right to voice their concerns and complain about their policies.
Mindblown.gif
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
The death scenes had a filter applied to them. It was somewhat strange. Years ago they thought the Wii made the game look like a strangulation simulator, thus all that crap happened. I remember playing it and the tint was just weird. The game is pretty good, but they had to edit it because the people complaining weren't going to buy the game to begin with.
PC version is AO. The console versions were rated AO at first, which made the game dead-in-the-water as no first party will license AO retail games for consoles (because no store will carry them) . They edited it down to an M on the Wii so they could sell it.
PC version, not needing to be sold at retail, is basically the original Wii version.
HappehLemons
Member
Ah okay, so just to be clear can people only not play the PC version of Manhunt on Twitch? Since the game is Rated M on other platforms it should still be playable?
Yes.
Backfoggen
Banned
Hatred AO listing is up on the ESRB page
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=10018280&Title=Hatred&searchkeyword=Hatred
So it is likely that this was done to prevent the game (and obviously others in the future) from showing up on the service.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=10018280&Title=Hatred&searchkeyword=Hatred
So it is likely that this was done to prevent the game (and obviously others in the future) from showing up on the service.
Pathfinder
Member
Hatred AO listing is up on the ESRB page
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=10018280&Title=Hatred&searchkeyword=Hatred
So it is likely that this was done to prevent the game (and obviously others in the future) from showing up on the service.
Yup, just as I suspected.
Could see it coming a mile away.
I've run out of faux shocked expressions for today, so I'll simply say I'm not surprised.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Or they do and realize it doesn't just apply to governments.