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Twitch bans Adults Only games
- Thread starter gai_shain
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Palette Swap
Member
it is, which means any current version of the game should be considered M rated as it is hot coffee free anyway.
The AO rating seems very theoretical in this case.
NormalFish
Banned
LOL at people thinking twitch is some open platform that shouldn't be moderated.
This is very reasonable.
This is very reasonable.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
That Ustream is more than just games, if I'm remembering correctly. Pretty sure people just stream whatever on there, weddings and all.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'd wager that most things people do in general are based on agendas.
Why would you do things with no motivation at all?
Why would you do things with no motivation at all?
partyphone
Banned
first they came for our public display of porn games and I said nothing...
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
It doesn't. Hatred doesn't matter at all and anyone insisting it does is just stirring the pot.
mgs2master2
Banned
Psst never enforced especially when twitch admin and staff play favorites and make money off it.
okay.
Pathfinder
Member
Your statement is inherently false, because if it truly didn't matter, then Twitch would have no reason to ban it and other AO games from their service, and we wouldn't be discussing this.
I think you meant it doesn't matter to you at all.
Delusibeta
Banned
A pretty blatant Hatred ban, since their "no explicit sexual scenes" rule covers pretty much all other AO-rated games. I suppose it also gives them something to point to if someone wants to stream, say, Ladykiller In A Bind in the future (although, again, covered by the existing "no explicit sexual scenes" rule).
Hitbox it is then!
guys i wonder if there's a large event coming up
one with consoles involved
consoles with companies that would want Twitch to block AO games since they don't allow AO games on their consoles and also have a Twitch app
maybe this event would be big enough to announce a big Twitch push on console hardware
and they should hold it in LA
nah, it's totally to block one small indie game that isn't even ESRB rated and isn't even affected by this ban
one with consoles involved
consoles with companies that would want Twitch to block AO games since they don't allow AO games on their consoles and also have a Twitch app
maybe this event would be big enough to announce a big Twitch push on console hardware
and they should hold it in LA
nah, it's totally to block one small indie game that isn't even ESRB rated and isn't even affected by this ban
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Hatred isn't banned. It isn't an AO game and it isn't specifically listed in the language in the article.
There is nothing wrong with that stream what so ever.
Pathfinder
Member
Let's see what happens on June 1.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Same reason YouTube doesn't have age gates to watch porn, or GAF doesnt have age gates for "Adults Only" sub forums.
Stiler
Member
partyphone
Banned
*checks*
hahaha. so they're displaying the ESRB logo on their site without permission just to appear more edgy.
sensui-tomo
Member
Ditto, its not like she's having "Donations" to use a sharpie on her body. The streamer is just wearing a comfortable shirt, hell the size of her webcam screen is small enough to not give a shit. At least this game is the huge size versus that other one.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
partyphone
Banned
Nope. Developers can set the ESRB rating on their own on the Steam page.
If you go to esrb.org and search the game, it does not have a rating. It would have a rating by now on their website.
it's a marketing ploy
She zipped her coat up.
Stiler
Member
Yes but it's more equivalent to R vs NC-17, as far as the games mentioned go (GTA: SA, Indigo Prophecy (aka Fahrenheit).
I mean literally these games, if re-released today would get an M rating easily, GTA IV had full frontal nudity and it was rated M, The Witcher 2 had nudity during scenes (Easily surpassing what was shown in the non rated version of Indigo prophecy) and it was rated M.
They could EASILY separate rated AO games from "pornographic" games.
Hatred
Manhunt
GTA: SA
Indigo Prophecy: DC
etc are not rated AO for porn, unlike the other games that (obviously) they wouldn't want to show the same as Wal mart doesn't sell porn, yet they still sell "unrated" and other movies.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Damn, I forgot about Hatred. Curious to see if it gets reviewed anywhere or gets any press.
I saw it before that, but her zipping up even further proves the point that there's nothing wrong with that stream.
Why is there such a big discussion about this? There hasn't been a single AO game of note other than Manhunt, and the brief window San Andreas got slappped with one for content that wasn't even in the game, and those were like 10+ years ago.
It seems like they're setting a policy just so they can say they have one.
It seems like they're setting a policy just so they can say they have one.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
As far as I've seen, nope, no problems. It's a woman with a reasonable shirt that shows some cleavage.
But stuff like that pic from earlier in the thread? Ridiculous.
Delusibeta
Banned
Pretty much guaranteed to get press. Hell, it was the press that made it a thing in the first place. Hatred is the worst case of Dragon's Crowning since, well, Dragon's Crown (and I'd argue it's actually worse since Hatred frankly looks like a bad video game).
Hatred's allegedly out next week. Pretty blatant that's the reason for the new policy.
Exactly. I'm against censorship on platforms that advertise themselves as open, but twitch does not. They are business and they should be able to control their business as they see fit.
I wonder too... at least the game will not receive attention on GAF =D
EDIT: waiT, this legacy post X_x
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Obviously it won't, but I'd laugh if Hatred isn't mentioned because it somehow only wound up being rated M.
Sites still covered mostly Dragon's Crown at least, just there was more of an emphasis on LOOK AT THESE GIANT TITS IN SHAME. If it were my call I'd just do the bare basics of covering Hatred and leave it at that; remove the mystique but not really pimping it out either.
Pathfinder
Member
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Blatant in that it isn't specifically mentioned at all and doesn't fall under this policy, which has been policy for some time.
partyphone
Banned
no this is clearly the work of cultural marxists pushing their agenda down our throats.
f o l l o w t h e m o n e y
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I don't think controversy does well anymore. Everyone wants to fight it before the idea is even imagined or created. Film festivals get away with much more and it's enjoyed to say the least. A banned film has much more ground to it then if say a developer pulls their game or patches it.
Not that R rated movies don't get cut
I'm saying there's this discipline we want to give to developers. That's censorship right there.
Sometimes I felt like we were breaking pin ball machines and burning copies because video games all of a sudden were under fire for ethics and all sorts of stuff. Now the services are trying to get involved. Video games suffer because no one respects the ratings board. Even movies that are rated NC17 are 17, which is an M rated game which is nudity and sex.
It's just a mess after a while. It's not like I'll use Twitch for myself in the near future.
I wonder sometimes if it's even going to matter. New talented artist will create a controversy regardless. If we keep pushing creative talent we'll arrive nowhere because no one gets anything out of the same thing after a while. We'll be like a private school with set rules and uniforms.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'd bet it's an immensely pirated game and a pretty poor seller.
Pathfinder
Member
Oh, I was not aware there was a site-wide ban on the topic.
I hope this thread is able to stay open, because the topic is more about Twitch banning AO games rather than Hatred's content.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
AO games is nothing but censorship. Adult centered games haven't really been groundbreaking. I've heard it been compared to a death sentence before. Rockstar has quality to their work and it wasn't right that they got an AO rating.
Hentai, Loli, etc are all just dark corners of gaming that have never really shined through. You aren't dealing with an expert panel with AO being brought up. It's been known for many MANY years.
Hatred is just another shooter bent on scoring points with controversy. It isn't like it's hurting anyone. It's just a product that's being sold. Some one could very well enjoy it for all I know.
hatred could very well score an 8 or a 9. It's just people are looking at the game's aesthetics and they're backing off. The studio, like many, has done their job already.
Eminen started off doing the same thing. Criticizing censors and just saying what he felt. He ended up being incredibly popular, rich, and continues to make music.
There's probably manga and games that could get people into trouble. It's a giant mess. You can watch digital nudity and portions of sex at 17, but what's so big about being 18 for porn? You have kids watching digital nudity because their parents bought them a game. Then you ban AO because that whole area sucks? There's a lot to consider about this whole thing.
Messofanego
Banned
That seems logical. But Pathfinder followed the money! It's clearly "agenda-driven", Twitch is out to get only Hatred. Pathfinder just really really doesn't like that Twitch is being sneaky about this "agenda".
agendas! he said the secret word!
It's not like the first time Twitch has had rules for certain things like, The Playroom back in 2013...
a dress code...
Could just be a chance to re-iterate their rules on AO games just before E3, like they've done before...
Ragnorok64
Member
I honestly already thought this was the case with Twitch. I guess I didn't consider games that get AO for something other than sex.
Pathfinder
Member
I do believe I've found myself a fan.
Mad Season
Banned
Messofanego
Banned
Apparently quoting someone's posts is considered being a fan. No wonder you jump to conspiracies.
