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Ubisoft was ‘disappointed’ by Assassin’s Creed Nexus VR sales, will not increase VR investment
DaGwaphics
Member
Classic chicken and egg. It ain't growing that much if no one is out there making the necessary investments in software.
Magic Carpet
Member
Damn, Don't want to hear that.
I bought it for the Quest 3. Have only played the beginning so far. It's a decent VR experience from what little I've played so far.
Damn.
I bought it for the Quest 3. Have only played the beginning so far. It's a decent VR experience from what little I've played so far.
Damn.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
See if it can be ported to other systems. Talk with Sony for PSVR2 dammit.
phant0m
Member
bought it day 1, so did my part
Shame, it was a pretty fun experience too
Publishers also expect everything to sell a billion fucking copies these days, but they’re their own worst enemies — they design games to keep you hooked/engaged/invested for dozens and hundreds of hours. Guess what? You’ve eaten up people’s time and they’re not gonna buy shit they don’t have time to play.
Shame, it was a pretty fun experience too
Publishers also expect everything to sell a billion fucking copies these days, but they’re their own worst enemies — they design games to keep you hooked/engaged/invested for dozens and hundreds of hours. Guess what? You’ve eaten up people’s time and they’re not gonna buy shit they don’t have time to play.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Don't keep a console oriented game off the console VR headset . . .
BiohazardX95
Member
Didn't like what they showed, maybe because of the Bad graphics, Port it to PC VR and vr2 first.
dragonyeuw
Member
That's the jist of it. Publishers and consumers are staring across the abyss waiting for the other side to take the leap.
iHaunter
Member
I can't even do it, makes me physically set. Tried my friends Oculus a long time ago. Played for 15 minutes and have been dizzy for 6+ years ever since.
Whatever that Eve tech demo game was.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Gotta take baby steps and build up your VR legs. Eve Valkyrie is not a good place to start.I can't even do it, makes me physically set. Tried my friends Oculus a long time ago. Played for 15 minutes and have been dizzy for 6+ years ever since.
Whatever that Eve tech demo game was.
Oberstein
Member
This. It's a gimmick.
Nobody wants it, most players aren't interested, it's too expensive, it bores the developers to work on it, you feel like puking after 20 minutes, etc...
Speak for yourself. I love VR.
Xtib81
Member
Well, yeah of course some people like it but you're in a tiny minority, so low sales shouldn't come as a surprise.
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dragonyeuw
Member
As do I, but very clearly it's going to mostly be home to AA experiences because the install bases across all platforms can't cover higher tier development. The best hope for AAA experiences is attaching a VR mode to an existing game like RE4/7. Half life Alyx experiences are few and far between.
Sunk cost fallacy?
DaGwaphics
Member
I can't even do it, makes me physically set. Tried my friends Oculus a long time ago. Played for 15 minutes and have been dizzy for 6+ years ever since.
Whatever that Eve tech demo game was.
I'm like that as well. Not to that extent, no lasting effects but my experience with PSVR made me put that back in the box. I was able to finish the game with the little robot guy and the floating islands but that Iron Man demo, that was a rough one for me.
I never tried to work up my endurance though.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Entry cost is the main issue.
willothedog
Member
If they are disappointed with this games sales, wait until the sales figures for Skull and Bones come in
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
There is a vr ac game?!
Crayon
Member
I think it's more, though that is the 2nd biggest one. "B"
A. Not enough game with... And I hate to say this... killer graphics. Kinda goes hand in hand with expensive toys. Main reason I went for psvr2 was things like GT7 and re8.
C. Never having tried it and thinking you know what it is. Many more people have tried it by now, but still a problem.
D. "VRAF" games are not necessarily it. There should be ports of games played with a controller. It's much easier to do and I am not always in the mood for standing or seated VR controls that have me moving around more. Some even get into exercise territory. A seated game with just the headset difference would have me playing much more often. A sort of intermediate mode of play.
Killjoy-NL
Member
You might be right. Makes a lot of sense.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Maybe if they didn’t price it out of the normal VR games. I’m not spending $40 for it when I’m having a blast playing $20 games.
I’ll make sure to take the game out of my wish list.
I’ll make sure to take the game out of my wish list.
StereoVsn
Member
And normally cross-gen games and 1st party support helps there. However we just don’t have them with VR. Meta is the closest I guess, but that’s not enough for large publishers to invest into AAA VR games.
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Romulus
Member
It's a good 8/10 game but without knowing their expectations it's difficult to gauge.
"My expectations weren't met."
"Ok, what did you expect?"
......
It's entirely possible they expected to sell a ridiculous amount. The Quest community jumped on them at launch because the game had performance issues that were addressed later.
You only get one chance at launch to make that impression.
A solid game that launches with widely reported performance issues when Quest 3 just launched?
Sounds like the want to quickly make back the investment superseded logic.
"My expectations weren't met."
"Ok, what did you expect?"
......
It's entirely possible they expected to sell a ridiculous amount. The Quest community jumped on them at launch because the game had performance issues that were addressed later.
You only get one chance at launch to make that impression.
A solid game that launches with widely reported performance issues when Quest 3 just launched?
Sounds like the want to quickly make back the investment superseded logic.
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Might turn out that a big appeal of games is not having to move so much. lol.
IT's that ability to sit on the couch and chill out that helps make games attractive.
Maybe virtually moving around has much less appeal. IT becomes too much like what people are trying to escape from when they play games?
IT's that ability to sit on the couch and chill out that helps make games attractive.
Maybe virtually moving around has much less appeal. IT becomes too much like what people are trying to escape from when they play games?
Magic Carpet
Member
I think this holliday had too many VR games to choose from. I overspent on VR games since I got the Quest 3.
Assasins creed nexus was competing with Freebies Asgard 1 and 2.
Assasins creed nexus was competing with Freebies Asgard 1 and 2.
Svejk
Member
By limited, I hope you mean too restricted still. Tell me you wouldn't want to play CP2077 in VR...
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Best thing for VR gamers (existing or thinking about buying one) is to set expectations low. Look at the best selling games and it's stuff like Super Hot and Beat Saber.
VR goggle makers dont even take it seriously because they hardly make any games and most arent exactly budget busters either. They'll sink tons of money into games meant for consoles (even launch consoles with hardly any sales yet) and PC rigs, but not $500+ VR set hardware. So if the VR maker doesnt really care about making AAA games for VR, why should any gamers amp up and get into the ecosystem when HL Alyx is supposed to be the greatest VR game out that resembles AAA and thats it.
But if you like unique experiences with VR and enjoy those kind of $20 budget games thats totally fine. I like playing games that resemble budget games too (I got my share of Steam, GOG and Xbox indie downloads). But for me, I'm not paying $500+ extra to do it VR style.
its funny because when Wii waving was the rage, everyone core gamer made fun of people waving the hands standing in their living room. VR is ind of the same to me, except with goggles you got a 360 view instead of looking at the TV. But the waggling is totally similar. Slashing a sword in Red Steel is the same as slashing a sword with a VR set and wrist controllers.
VR goggle makers dont even take it seriously because they hardly make any games and most arent exactly budget busters either. They'll sink tons of money into games meant for consoles (even launch consoles with hardly any sales yet) and PC rigs, but not $500+ VR set hardware. So if the VR maker doesnt really care about making AAA games for VR, why should any gamers amp up and get into the ecosystem when HL Alyx is supposed to be the greatest VR game out that resembles AAA and thats it.
But if you like unique experiences with VR and enjoy those kind of $20 budget games thats totally fine. I like playing games that resemble budget games too (I got my share of Steam, GOG and Xbox indie downloads). But for me, I'm not paying $500+ extra to do it VR style.
its funny because when Wii waving was the rage, everyone core gamer made fun of people waving the hands standing in their living room. VR is ind of the same to me, except with goggles you got a 360 view instead of looking at the TV. But the waggling is totally similar. Slashing a sword in Red Steel is the same as slashing a sword with a VR set and wrist controllers.
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Resenge
Member
VR doesn't even need VR specific games. Some of the best VR experiences are flat screen games ported to VR, Resident Evil 4 Remake, Resident Evil Village, Gran Turismo are all way better in VR.
Just add VR options to your flat screen games, then everyone gets what they want.
Just add VR options to your flat screen games, then everyone gets what they want.
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Hot5pur
Member
VR is absolutely incredible. I too was a 2D fanboy at one point, but after getting into VR properly, getting the VR legs, seeing all that is possible, it's really next level.
The game definitely have depth, even more depth because of all the degrees of freedom. In a video game you are limited to a few buttons and the direction inputs, in VR you can move however you want, attack however you want, cast spells however you want, etc.
Then you have simracing, flight sticks, all the sports games, various simulations.....it's so much more than a gaming system
As for ass creed, the game came in at $40, was pretty good but had some flaws, and released during a really busy holiday period with a ton of other stuff releasing around the same time for usually $20-30.
VR gamers are used to fairly low prices and smaller scope games.
At any rate, I think VR devs are some of the most passionate around, just look at freaking Vertigo 2. There's a bright future for VR we just need people to give it a real chance and stick with it until they get their VR legs and get over the hurdles.
The game definitely have depth, even more depth because of all the degrees of freedom. In a video game you are limited to a few buttons and the direction inputs, in VR you can move however you want, attack however you want, cast spells however you want, etc.
Then you have simracing, flight sticks, all the sports games, various simulations.....it's so much more than a gaming system
As for ass creed, the game came in at $40, was pretty good but had some flaws, and released during a really busy holiday period with a ton of other stuff releasing around the same time for usually $20-30.
VR gamers are used to fairly low prices and smaller scope games.
At any rate, I think VR devs are some of the most passionate around, just look at freaking Vertigo 2. There's a bright future for VR we just need people to give it a real chance and stick with it until they get their VR legs and get over the hurdles.
sendit
Member
Baby steps isn't going to help. Most VR games make me dizzy (they make a lot of people dizzy). The only VR game i've been able to play for a prolonged period is GT7. Even that at times made my stomach churn (elevation dips) due to the disconnect between a players physical body.
I want VR to succeed as it provides experiences that are simply unmatched. You literally feel like you're a part of the gaming world. However, I'm not sure what they can do outside of full body movement on a stationary platform like this:
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sncvsrtoip
Member
They should do Far Cry or Avatar proper vr mode like capcom for pc and psvr2 and not waste money on standalone vr games
hybrid_birth
Gold Member
And im "Dissapointed" with most ubisoft games.
