Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
I like Death Stranding. I don't know why, but it's relaxing. It is the equivalent to a good read on a stormy Sunday. I can understand not everyone being into it, but I am sure as hell glad I am not everyone.
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UK: Death Stranding 2nd Biggest Launch of a New IP in 2019, sells 36% less than Days Gone
EDMIX
Member
True. I still want to know whats up with that deal and if Sony will buy the team or not. The fact that it states its trademarked by Sony is what blows my mind, yet no buy. Maybe they are waiting after the holidays or when the official PS5 reveal drops next year or something.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
They gave them the engine and a good deal of time from their engineers in support roles, but also many lead engineers in direct active roles. They had a lot of people from Guerrilla Games working on DS too... :wow.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Not everybody thought this game would succeed, lets not forget that.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Yeah, completely new IP vs the latest and greatest Big Boss story in a very established franchise... hmm hmmm
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EDMIX
Member
Yeah, completely new IP vs the latest and greatest Big Boss story in a very established franchise... hmm hmmm
Exactly, MGSV is also from a deeply established IP releasing on like 5 systems at once.
i don't know, they said the same things about Remedy when Control launched.
JLB
Banned
Sure. Lets not count that Gears 5 was released on Gamepass, and on a platform that is nearly 2:1 on UK compared to Xbox. Or even more important, that is a Kojima game and as usual is overhyped elsewhere.
I dont think these are good numbers. DS would have been the #1 by far worldwide.
Kokoloko85
Member
Well Days gone was pretty decent but Death Stranding is another level for me of game. Its really interesting and im enjoying the game ALOT. A slow experience. I really hope this doesnt turn Sony off from letting developers make there game and they carry on releases amazing solo games.
Please let there be a death stranding 2
Please let there be a death stranding 2
woigemok
Banned
HZD and DAYS GONE are a new IP as well.Yeah, completely new IP vs the latest and greatest Big Boss story in a very established franchise... hmm hmmm
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Bkdk
Banned
Good news, hopefully there will at least be a turbo mode and an option to turn off the whole cargo management thing with strong mod support. Also a mode where all structures would’ve already been built right at the start to reduce the boredom. I sure wish no more gameplay like this next time.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
True and like Days Gone it will likely / hopefully make people eat plenty of crow
.Seriously though, not dissimilar and far more oblique concept to sell people than HZD and Days Gone from a concept and genre perspective.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Fair, but many of the people (I for one) seem to like it because of the elements you would like to have automated. A relaxing, contemplating, and engaging gameplay in a matching setting: I do not want to put it down
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Swipeyowifelike
Member
Robot dinosaurs and zombies are a bit easier to sell than supernatural dystopian futures with unknown origins.
policestationx
Banned
Death Stranding with another historical moment by disappearing completely in December Chart across the globe.
US
Japan(Biggest sales month)
-20k lol
Germany
Spain
PlayStation Store 2019 ranking
FLOP!
policestationx
Banned
Biggest AAA flop that year = Death Stranding
Biggest Indie flop that year = Shenmue 3
demigod
Member
Fixed for you, you're welcome.
The Cartographer
Member
At first I thought Death Stranding was going to underperform, then when it came out people actually made it sound like the game was more successful then what KojiPro originally expected but in the end it actually performed quite badly despite Sony's gigantic marketing push.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
pc port announcement probably didnt help.
the critics trashing it despite giving it great scores didnt help.
the internet outrage machine didnt help.
the critics trashing it despite giving it great scores didnt help.
the internet outrage machine didnt help.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
yes it is a refreshing feeling the game gives me. all the moss and rain is very pleasing. going on these contemplative hikes through such a lush and vivid atmosphere is a very nice experience. personally there is nothing i like more than watching a movie on a rainy day, this game kind of captures that feeling perfectly. very peaceful. (of course, mind the BTs & MULEs).
impressive to see it do so good. i know a lot of that is Kojima's name, but it's also nice to see so many people welcoming to such a radical concept. it is quite the divisive game but clearly it has a lot to offer and people are responding to that, regardless of critical reception.
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ethomaz
Banned
Why do you hate so much good games?Death Stranding with another historical moment by disappearing completely in December Chart across the globe.
US
Japan(Biggest sales month)
-20k lol
Germany
Spain
PlayStation Store 2019 ranking
FLOP!
It is far from flop lol
It is tracking like MGS games tracks.
Enters in the month chartz but not after that.
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policestationx
Banned
Death Stranding Blows Past 2.1 million trailer views in 6 hours. Fastest viewed / liked Game Trailer of 2019
Todays Death Stranding trailer has now become the fastest viewed and liked video game trailer of 2019, surpassing the early metrics set by Star Wars Fallen Jedi. I'm only including the official PlayStation channels in this figure and not uploads from other sources. The main Playstation channel...
www.resetera.com
What will sell more, Death Stranding or Luigi’s Mansion 3?
This is legitimately the hardest question I've ever seen asked on this forum. I went with Death Stranding but I am pretty split down the middle on this.
www.resetera.com
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
can't even beat Day's Gone
well done Kojimbo
well done Kojimbo
policestationx
Banned
Death Stranding Trailer Breaks an Impressive Record for 2019
Developer Kojima Productions' latest trailer for PS4 exclusive Death Stranding manages to break records upon its release and reach some impressive numbers.
gamerant.com
That record
policestationx
Banned
Luigi's Mansion 3 outsold DS greatly and rated higher in metascore but only got 1 goty award lmao.
The Mad Draklor
Member
TBF, it's the 3rd installment of an established, popular series that began back in the Gamecube days. Couple that with the Switch's rapidly impressive sales, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone when it outsold DS.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Not like your post history, that's for sure.
Mikey Jr.
Member
I played it and beat it.
I honestly dont think it was very good. MGS is one of my favourite franchises, and DS was a complete swing and a miss for me.
It starts out fun for sure. You want to deliver all the packages, do the sidequests, get perfect ratings, etc.
But halfway through, I stopped giving a flying fuck. I kept having to go back and forth to places I literally just came from. Climb a mountain, ok now go back down the mountain, ok, now................go back up to that same spot on the mountain!
Fuck you.
And the story "made sense", but it was just complete and utter nonsense. If you want to tell a story like that, build up to it. This game felt like part 3 with the amount of nonsense it was throwing at you.
Thats the genius of MGS. MGS1 was simple to understand for the most part. Then it slowly descended into chaos with each part.
This was just off the wall in part 1.
And the "traveling" across America didn't make sense either. The map is like 4 square miles. How the shit does me walking a mile west all of a sudden have me traveling half way across America. Wut?
I give Kojima a lot of respect for this type of game. A triple A game like this is nearly impossible in this day and age. But yeah, I think the gameplay loop doesn't hold up past 10 hours, and the story was frankly, stupid.
I honestly dont think it was very good. MGS is one of my favourite franchises, and DS was a complete swing and a miss for me.
It starts out fun for sure. You want to deliver all the packages, do the sidequests, get perfect ratings, etc.
But halfway through, I stopped giving a flying fuck. I kept having to go back and forth to places I literally just came from. Climb a mountain, ok now go back down the mountain, ok, now................go back up to that same spot on the mountain!
Fuck you.
And the story "made sense", but it was just complete and utter nonsense. If you want to tell a story like that, build up to it. This game felt like part 3 with the amount of nonsense it was throwing at you.
Thats the genius of MGS. MGS1 was simple to understand for the most part. Then it slowly descended into chaos with each part.
This was just off the wall in part 1.
And the "traveling" across America didn't make sense either. The map is like 4 square miles. How the shit does me walking a mile west all of a sudden have me traveling half way across America. Wut?
I give Kojima a lot of respect for this type of game. A triple A game like this is nearly impossible in this day and age. But yeah, I think the gameplay loop doesn't hold up past 10 hours, and the story was frankly, stupid.
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policestationx
Banned
Did you forget the expectation before it was released?
Many people thought DS will outsell LM3 without much problem.
The hyperbole from kojima fans and kojima's own words ("i've created a brand new genre!" "my game flies higher than what americans are able to understand[paraphrased]", etc)
Freedom Gate Co.
Banned
Lol bumping a thread from Nov just to fail to troll.
Shenmue is not an indie game, it's A at minimum. With some AA elements.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Lol bumping a thread from Nov just to fail to troll.
I didn't bump the thread.
Yet, another failed post by you.
Freedom Gate Co.
Banned
If you post after a necro it's bumping the thread. I only came here because you called me. Clearly you have a thing for me but im not available.
I can hook you up with
brap
if you want, he likes the type of things you do.You should learn definitions of worlds and come back when you understand how forums work lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Death Stranding with another historical moment by disappearing completely in December Chart across the globe.
US
Japan(Biggest sales month)
-20k lol
Germany
Spain
PlayStation Store 2019 ranking
FLOP!
thats hurts to watch. Ouch. Deserved tho. That game is crap.
Lionel Richie
Member
People right here were talking about Death Stranding outselling Pokémon. It was a surprise to plenty of people.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Are those people even worth mentioning in context?
Pokemon can literally offer you a lobotomy, and the fanatics would like up in droves... maybe that would be a good thing now that I think of it.
MiguelItUp
Member
From an unbiased perspective, the game is far from crap, and everyone knew it would be divisive, including Kojima himself. There were even interviews where he didn't plan on the game selling blockbuster numbers, it was just something that he created, and wanted to see out. So, to him it really just sounds like a personal goal he accomplished.
I played it and really loved it, but it really didn't take long to realize that it was something that wasn't for everyone. But I'd recommend people at least give it a shot.
Fans of the game and/or Kojima picked up the game ASAP. Players that don't have a PS4, or prefer PC, are probably waiting for a PC launch.
I also think it's pretty important to mention that this was a brand new IP. Just like Days Gone. But, like others have stated, Days Gone showed gun play and zombies for eons. Where Death Stranding kept a lot of that a mystery up until closer to release.
If anyone is going to say anything about a AAA flop I'd honestly think of Gears of War 5 or Shenmue III considering both are known IPs that really should've performed better. I haven't heard anyone I know talk about either, and it's pretty damn upsetting. Especially from the perspective of someone that really loved both IPs back in the day.
I played it and really loved it, but it really didn't take long to realize that it was something that wasn't for everyone. But I'd recommend people at least give it a shot.
Fans of the game and/or Kojima picked up the game ASAP. Players that don't have a PS4, or prefer PC, are probably waiting for a PC launch.
I also think it's pretty important to mention that this was a brand new IP. Just like Days Gone. But, like others have stated, Days Gone showed gun play and zombies for eons. Where Death Stranding kept a lot of that a mystery up until closer to release.
If anyone is going to say anything about a AAA flop I'd honestly think of Gears of War 5 or Shenmue III considering both are known IPs that really should've performed better. I haven't heard anyone I know talk about either, and it's pretty damn upsetting. Especially from the perspective of someone that really loved both IPs back in the day.
The Mad Draklor
Member
I wasn't one of those people, though.
Investor9872
Member
Got Days Gone day-1, and it was really rough playing through it. Love it still. I haven't gotten Death Stranding yet. A walking emulator? Sure. Why not?
Lionel Richie
Member
Yeah but the point is that acting like Death Stranding selling poorly was a foregone conclusion is misguided. LM3 outselling DS was FAR from a safe bet at the time, it only looks like that in hindsight because LM3 is crazy popular and DS underperformed like a motherfucker.