They point to Minecraft as to how they will handle CoDI’ve always liked Phil but if this is accurate he really is full of shit. I’m sure some decisions regarding 70bn deals are beyond his pay grade but he’s out there saying the exact opposite of this over and over. I really thought they would treat this like the minecraft deal. Sony will lose serious ground in market share if COD ever goes exclusive. Guess they flew too close to the sun with all that timed exclusive shit and MS was tired of getting pushed around by a much smaller company.
I don’t know what’s gotten in the water around here but Christ aliveWhere do you stand on Sony moneyhatting everything they can get their hands on? What about their shady keep away clauses? Funny how you and the media are silent about that. I guess that doesn't bother you.
PlayStation fans already know how this situation feels. Being told over the past 20 years that Sony first-party games would ONLY be available on PlayStation consoles, then Jimbo comes along and blockbusters like Spiderman and GOW make their way to PC. Talk really is cheap.
I don’t know what’s gotten in the water around here but Christ alive
And this is exactly why I fucking hate the market right now. I can't afford to run two consoles, nor do I want too. But pretty soon you won't be able to play any Bethesda or Activision title on PlayStation unless it's way past it's release date and just for extra change. Minecraft too. It's ridiculous. People who think Microsoft are going to keep games and franchises coming to PlayStation are surely not seeing the play here. Microsoft have no obligation whatsoever to release Bethesda or ABK content on PlayStation if their mergers successfully close. Sony, if they want to play Microsoft's game, would have to make some huge acquisitions to really compete if the game is literally to buy the market and give it away for a monthly subscription. You can afford to do that when you make 60-80 billion a year in gross profit. I really hate gaming right now. Picking up the odd studio here and there when you're close partners and you've been that way for years I can get, but this is ridiculous. My only reprieval with Embracer is that they want to stay multiplatform and they're not for sale.
You should've seen the threads here when Sony's push towards the PC market that started about 2 years ago was revealed. Lets just say the majority of long-time PlayStation faithful did not welcome that news with open armsSee to an extent, I disagree here. I think PlayStation fans like myself who've been here since the very beginning have accepted PC ports and what they do for PlayStation. I think you'll see AMD products advertising PlayStation and other PC components. It'll make Sony develop their technology even further and to be honest it doesn't really hurt the platform. PC gamers are a resilient and head strong bunch. They'll play the games but the hardcore PC gamers, of which there are millions, won't touch consoles. I know many of them.
lol Several more years. People here were telling me that MS cant afford to make COD exclusive. Sure Jan.
0 games in 2022 + threatening to take away multi platform games from PlayStation in a couple of years = peak gaming CEO.
This is peak gaming CEO.
You may not like it, but accept it.
I'm curious. They're supposed to spend billions on this shit and then give them to their competition? It's business, they bought the company that makes COD, hence COD becomes their property. IF it was or not a multiplatform game doesn't matter after the deal is done. Same thing if Sony bought From Software for example and Dark Souls went exclusive.How is that gangsta as shit you muppet?
The mask has slipped for a lot of posters now and whilst originally it was all ‘yeah man Xbox is so chill of course they will publish CoD on PS forever Xbox is all about options only Sony cares about muh exclusivity’ and now you’re getting a stiffy over depriving PS players of a multi platform game?
It would be hilarious if you weren’t actually cheering on a mega coorperation. You a wanksta.
I'm not upset, I'm genuinely intrigued by your posts. I've never seen this level that someone goes to defend a brand/product.You need to stop being mad that Xbox is making moves you don't like. You'll enjoy gaming more. Trust me. There is a reason I support all consoles. Try doing the same and stop being such a warrior upset with my opinion and move on. That's what I'm doing by choosing to no longer respond to you or anyone else who has a problem with what I already said. I said what I said.
It's not enough that they feel like Sony should be entitled to every game ever released, but they need to make sure nobody else can play them too.You should've seen the threads here when Sony's push towards the PC market that started about 2 years ago was revealed. Lets just say the majority of long-time PlayStation faithful did not welcome that news with open arms
How is that gangsta as shit you muppet?
The mask has slipped for a lot of posters now and whilst originally it was all ‘yeah man Xbox is so chill of course they will publish CoD on PS forever Xbox is all about options only Sony cares about muh exclusivity’ and now you’re getting a stiffy over depriving PS players of a multi platform game?
It would be hilarious if you weren’t actually cheering on a mega coorperation. You a wanksta.
0 games in 2022 + threatening to take away multi platform games from PlayStation in a couple of years = peak gaming CEO.
Xbox just isn't practicing that strategy anymore. Phil has too much respect for gamers.You can’t play everything man. Its the same with all the TV streaming services. You can’t watch them all.
My stance is that the studios accepting the money and deal must find enough value in it to accept it. MS could have the same terms (as we have seen in the past) but it appears they aren’t sending enough money or the studios don’t see the value in being Xbox exclusive.
You should read the OP, it's quite literally the opposite of what you're saying.
You're naive if you think that's true.They point to Minecraft as to how they will handle CoD
This is satire right? I'm a few drinks deep so I honestly can't tell.Xbox just isn't practicing that strategy anymore. Phil has too much respect for gamers.
It’s funny that Phil can only commit to a few more years
Wasn’t he running his mouth about exclusives not being a thing anymore and how he doesn’t want to close off gamers or some shit?
If he believed his own bullshit he’d come out and say CoD is on PS forever like Sony did with Bungie
Except for all those timed exclusives they have, yeah.Xbox just isn't practicing that strategy anymore. Phil has too much respect for gamers.
But if they do take COD away from PS, which I don't think they will, we are looking at 6 years or so from now. That's a whole new console gen away and who know what gaming even looks like by then. My belief is that MS is going to use COD as leverage to stop Sony from moneyhatting everything, but won't pull it unless they continue to play dirty.
You can’t play everything man. Its the same with all the TV streaming services. You can’t watch them all.
My stance is that the studios accepting the money and deal must find enough value in it to accept it. MS could have the same terms (as we have seen in the past) but it appears they aren’t sending enough money or the studios don’t see the value in being Xbox exclusive.
‘Right now’? it’s absolutely not a recent development for previously multiplatform games to be ‘moneyhatted’ as exclusives. Does Final Fantasy not come to mind?
It really just looks like you’re more upset because there’s the possibility of games not coming to your preferred console and less about being fundamentally opposed to corporations paying to keep multiplatform franchises off competing platforms.
I always advocate owning multiple platforms, anyway.
You should've seen the threads here when Sony's push towards the PC market that started about 2 years ago was revealed. Lets just say the majority of long-time PlayStation faithful did not welcome that news with open arms
it killed Halo back in the day
It was half satire. I don't know if Phil cares about gamers, but his strategy has moved away from paying to keep games off other platforms and his has been vocal and clear about that. After this deal goes through, Xbox won't even need exclusives. Just put everything on Game Pass and dominate.This is satire right? I'm a few drinks deep so I honestly can't tell.
Either way, Phil is held to fiduciary standards, maybe he has respect for gamers, but his actions reflect what will earn Microsoft the most money, not the most fan service, unless that fan service leads to money (see: gamepass)
Come on man.....I was taking the piss.
When was this exactly? Pretty sure no Killzone game has beaten out a mainline Halo at any point (?).
Wouldn’t even surprise me if Halo Infinite have sold more copies than the best selling Killzone game to date, despite being on GamePass.
This will at least give Sony time to bring back the mighty Killzone.......it killed Halo back in the day,COD will be no match!
The optics lolYou're naive if you think that's true.
Minecraft is a children's game, the optics of pulling it would be disastrous.
I've said it before and I'll say it again in my very strong opinion, warzone (including future versions) will remain on playstation in perpetuity, the next couple of mainline entries will come to playstation, with the first exclusive coming the first next gen release, maybe something like xbox series xyz, but only a ps5 release to ease in.
Mainline entries will have unlockable bonuses for warzone, enticing users to switch over, starting at the tail end of this generation.
Of course a lot can happen in that time, like sony developing a legitimate war fps contender, forcing cod to stay, but as it stands, cod was never going to be exclusive in perpetuity.
This will at least give Sony time to bring back the mighty Killzone.......it killed Halo back in the day,COD will be no match!
You're naive if you think that's true.
Minecraft is a children's game, the optics of pulling it would be disastrous.
I've said it before and I'll say it again in my very strong opinion, warzone (including future versions) will remain on playstation in perpetuity, the next couple of mainline entries will come to playstation, with the first exclusive coming the first next gen release, maybe something like xbox series xyz, but only a ps5 release to ease in.
Mainline entries will have unlockable bonuses for warzone, enticing users to switch over, starting at the tail end of this generation.
Of course a lot can happen in that time, like sony developing a legitimate war fps contender, forcing cod to stay, but as it stands, cod was never going to be exclusive in perpetuity.
I think Phil understands gamers more than cares about them, which is fine.It was half satire. I don't know if Phil cares about gamers, but his strategy has moved away from paying to keep games off other platforms and his has been vocal and clear about that. After this deal goes through, Xbox won't even need exclusives. Just put everything on Game Pass and dominate.
Can you please share where Sony said Bungie stuff will be on Xbox forever ?
It was a non-negotiable component of their acquisition. May even be written into the deal specifically, but they've been very upfront about them never being exclusive
Now, you could say that Sony could recant on that, but then piss off all the bungie management and have them leave? that's not what they want. Sony cares more about GaaS than they do exclusivity, and understand GaaS can't be closed off and be successful
Bungie is a completely independent publisher, too.
I'm pretty sure it was Haze that killed Halo.
Sure, BUNGIE has said they'll stay multiplatform. Sony has vaguely said that acquiring bungie is part of their multi platform initiative.
But at no point have either of those committed that they will keep making games for Xbox by name. Multiplatform can just mean PC and PS5 in context as well.
I get that a lot of gaffers don't like Phil for some reason, but he is way more forthright about this subject than anyone at Sony has been about Bungie's future.
Sony has specifically said that they 100% agree with Bungie and were on the same page regarding exclusivity and they never intended to close them off.
"Bungie has said that existing and future games currently in development will not be exclusive to PlayStation platforms following the company’s acquisition by Sony Interactive Entertainment."
It doesn't get any clearer than that
If he believed his own bullshit he’d come out and say CoD is on PS forever like Sony did with Bungie
Claiming Phil is more forthright is a joke. The same guy that says he hates exclusives yet buys a MAJOR multiplatform publisher in Bethesda and then gets them immediately off playstation.
Yes, that's what I said.The optics lol
Releases on pc/mobile/smart tvs day one, I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound like exclusivity to me.Sony has specifically said that they 100% agree with Bungie and were on the same page regarding exclusivity and they never intended to close them off.
"Bungie has said that existing and future games currently in development will not be exclusive to PlayStation platforms following the company’s acquisition by Sony Interactive Entertainment."
It doesn't get any clearer than that
Claiming Phil is more forthright is a joke. The same guy that says he hates exclusives yet buys a MAJOR multiplatform publisher in Bethesda and then gets them immediately off playstation.
He said he doesn't like console exclusives, and with Bethesda all those games will not be console exclusive, they'll also be on PC day 1.
GAF still has a LOT of crazy fanboys, some with an astounding number of livesI don’t know what’s gotten in the water around here but Christ alive
Like I said, nothing but meme level rhetoric. Thanks for proving my point