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[Gaiff]

Or at least a game with good production values, not like that trash on Steam.

Aztecs, Mayas, Incas, Olmecs, hell, I'd also take the ones in North America if we can get something that looks polished and modern.

I just watched Apocalypto and for all its historical accuracy and depiction problems, the sets, costumes, atmosphere, music, and art designs are fucking rad. I would love a game set in this era. Ubisoft are great at recreating ancient cities, but I don't care for their AC games, plus the next few ones will not be set in Mesoamerica so we're out of luck. Doesn't look like anyone else is interested in picking up this setting either. The first Uncharted is set in the Andes for a large part but it's in the modern world.

Thoughts? Y/N?

 

[Mr Hyde]

Would love a game set in this era. God of War Ragnarok hints about Kratos next adventure taking place in Mayan mythology

 

[Elog]

I would love to see a spiritual sequel to Bloodborne in Aztec culture with blood sacrifices and the old ones/gods hovering above. Lovecraft wrote a lot about the old gods of Mesoamerica. It is almost uncanny how well it would fit.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

I would love to see a spiritual sequel to Bloodborne in Aztec culture with blood sacrifices and the old ones/gods hovering above. Lovecraft wrote a lot about the old gods of Mesoamerica. It is almost uncanny how well it would fit.

God damn, what a dream game.

 

[Futaleufu]

Their culture of blood and death would be perfect for an horror game

 

[Gaiff]

I would love to see a spiritual sequel to Bloodborne in Aztec culture with blood sacrifices and the old ones/gods hovering above. Lovecraft wrote a lot about the old gods of Mesoamerica. It is almost uncanny how well it would fit.

I had this exact thought a while ago. This could be absolutely incredible.

 

[amigastar]

Something like this painting from Craig Mullins would be nice

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Vanillaware should make a game of Aztec mythology with elements similar to Odin sphere.

 

[Flabagast]

I agree it's weird we never had a big budget game in this setting. It could turn into a beautiful dark open world with somptuous cities, thick jungles and breathtaking vistas all around.

That says, Shadow of the Tomb Raider comes pretty close and is straight up gorgeous, you should try it if you haven't already

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Their culture of blood and death would be perfect for an horror game

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That comment offends me as a Mexican.


The culture of Mesoamerica is beautiful, it is not blood. It's more beliefs of Gods and culture.

 

[Futaleufu]

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That comment offends me as a Mexican.


The culture of Mesoamerica is beautiful, it is not blood. It's more beliefs of Gods and culture.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlacaxipehualiztli

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlacaxipehualiztli

Mesoamérica: qué es y sus características

Mesoamérica ✓ Te explicamos qué es la región de Mesoamérica y cuáles fueron las civilizaciones que la habitaron. Además, cuáles fueron sus principales innovaciones...

humanidades.com

 

[StueyDuck]

Or at least a game with good production values, not like that trash on Steam.

Aztecs, Mayas, Incas, Olmecs, hell, I'd also take the ones in North America if we can get something that looks polished and modern.

I just watched Apocalypto and for all its historical accuracy and depiction problems, the sets, costumes, atmosphere, music, and art designs are fucking rad. I would love a game set in this era. Ubisoft are great at recreating ancient cities, but I don't care for their AC games, plus the next few ones will not be set in Mesoamerica so we're out of luck. Doesn't look like anyone else is interested in picking up this setting either. The first Uncharted is set in the Andes for a large part but it's in the modern world.

Thoughts? Y/N?

Sometime between now and the future i imagine we might get one

 

[fersnake]

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That comment offends me as a Mexican.


The culture of Mesoamerica is beautiful, it is not blood. It's more beliefs of Gods and culture.

as a Guatemalan and im not offended.

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

I wanted to be an archeologist as a kid and wanted to study these cultures as I find them absolutely fascinating. More games around this subject would be great.

 

[Beer Baelly]

Nah, too fruity.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

A game like this made by a Western studio would be a shitshow. Bad idea, unless it's a dark fantasy based on myths and legends, with no aspirations of historical accuracy.

 

[GymWolf]

Maybe the next tomb raider or unchy is gonna have that location, who knows.

Or maybe ubisoft is gonna make an AC during that period.

 

[Last Hearth]

Their culture of blood and death would be perfect for an horror game

You think any Western Developer would dare go there? The number of warning screens would probably longer than the game itself.

 

[kruis]

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That comment offends me as a Mexican.


The culture of Mesoamerica is beautiful, it is not blood. It's more beliefs of Gods and culture.

Yeah sure.

 

[Gaiff]

Mesoamérica: qué es y sus características

Mesoamérica ✓ Te explicamos qué es la región de Mesoamérica y cuáles fueron las civilizaciones que la habitaron. Además, cuáles fueron sus principales innovaciones...

humanidades.com

Yeah sure.

I think the point being made by Heimdall_Xtreme was that Mesoamerican culture was much more than human sacrifices. Obviously, not a necessary response because the person they replied said "their culture of blood and death," referring to that specific part of their culture and not saying it was the culture as a whole.

 

[kruis]

I think the point being made by Heimdall_Xtreme was that Mesoamerican culture was much more than human sacrifices. Obviously, not a necessary response because the person they replied said "their culture of blood and death," referring to that specific part of their culture and not saying it was the culture as a whole.

Oh, that's true of course. Aztec culture was more than blood and gore of course. I've read a few historical novels about the world of the Aztecs and their first encounters with the Spanish invaders like for instance Gary Jennings 800 page behemoth "Aztec". Or Federica de Cesco's "Prince of Mexico" which I read when I was a child. Aztec culture is very different from anything else and absolutely fascinating.

But you can't deny that the world of the Aztecs was brutal and harsh seen through western eyes. And you could also make a great fantasy action game set in that world taking inspiration from tomb raider and god of war. Or a horror game with Lovecraftian elements. Both ideas could be the basis for great games with a truly original setting.

 

[Gaiff]

But you can't deny that the world of the Aztecs was brutal and harsh seen through western eyes.

Yep, but to be fair, it wasn't all that uncommon in the ancient world and even the Spanish had just come out of their infamous inquisition when they made first contact with the Aztecs. Hell, Roman society was still seen as the pinnacle of civilizational progress and those were the same guys who crucified 6000-something slaves on the Appian way because they dared spark a rebellion lol.

So yeah, I wholeheartedly agree that some aspects of Aztec culture were brutal, but I also don't single them out. Brutality was very on demand back then.

And you could also make a great fantasy action game set in that world taking inspiration from tomb raider and god of war. Or a horror game with Lovecraftian elements. Both ideas could be the basis for great games with a truly original setting.

I would love that but to be honest, I'd prefer if the protagonist wasn't an outsider. Like God of War would be cool but it'd still be Kratos in a different setting. I'd like to play as one of the gods of the Aztec or Inca pantheon instead but obviously, this wouldn't be GOW. As for Tomb Raider, it's Lara Croft and always set in the modern world, long after those societies collapsed so they don't really scratch the itch I have playing IN those ancient cities.

 

[IFireflyl]

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That comment offends me as a Mexican.


The culture of Mesoamerica is beautiful, it is not blood. It's more beliefs of Gods and culture.

You almost had me...

Birds and Mexicans aren't real. Flat Earthers, unite!

 

[justiceiro]

Well, kinda stating the obvious, but you really shouldn't be expecting anything this big while there is no strong game development industry on the region.

 

[Hudo]

Now I kinda want to play as a Spanish Conquistador, obliterating Tenochtitlan.

 

[Three]

Something like this painting from Craig Mullins would be nice

Just reminds me of Horizon Forbidden West.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I would've loved an Assassin's Creed taking place there. Something the size of Mirage but set in Teotihuacan, Tenochtitlan, or even Cahokia.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Would love it as well but honestly, if I had to choose, I would really love also something set in Africa and not only in a jungle.

 

[makaveli60]

There was a rumor not too long ago that an AC will be set there but it seems it was false, sadly. It would have been much more interesting than the Japanese gyme they will release. They are too late with that anyway, thanks to Ghost of Tsushima.

 

[mdkirby]

whenever Ubisoft decide to set an assassins creed game there would be my guess

 

[Badlucktroll]

Maybe a god of war game could be set there??

 

[Fbh]

You'll probably have to wait for some bigger development studios to appear in Mexico and other Latin American countries.
I don't think a US/EU dev is going to spend AAA budgets on an unproven setting and with the risk of being accused of being "too white" to make the game.

 

[Muffdraul]

Could be very cool, but I can't say it's toward the top of my wish list...

 

[nowhat]

I don't think a US/EU dev is going to spend AAA budgets on an unproven setting and with the risk of being accused of being "too white" to make the game.

TBH, the only people that really complained about Ghost of Tsushima and "cultural appropriation" were the usual suspects from Kotaku et al, Japanese players and devs seemed to love it. Hell, the game directors were appointed as permanent tourist ambassadors. You do still have a point though, people can be weird nowadays.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Give me a game similar to Apocalypto

 

[Jinzo Prime]

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That comment offends me as a Mexican.


The culture of Mesoamerica is beautiful, it is not blood. It's more beliefs of Gods and culture.

Well, that's the problem right there. No one wants to be accused of racism if they make a game set in Mesoamerica. It's too risky.

 

[RAIDEN1]

A game based of the Last of Mohicans, would be epic (if done right) hell even Rockstar could have done a different take instead of the usual cowboy story/Wild West with Red Dead Redemption...

 

[Kataploom]

Whenever data tells investors and boards that it will sell, I guess. It's all up to marketing and potential sales.

 

[Flabagast]

Give me a game similar to Apocalypto

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

You'll probably have to wait for some bigger development studios to appear in Mexico and other Latin American countries.
I don't think a US/EU dev is going to spend AAA budgets on an unproven setting and with the risk of being accused of being "too white" to make the game.

We’d probably end up with an isekai like Forspoken but set in pre-Colombian Mesoamerica.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I so strongly desire a big Assassin's Creed game in this geographic area.

 

[Fbh]

TBH, the only people that really complained about Ghost of Tsushima and "cultural appropriation" were the usual suspects from Kotaku et al, Japanese players and devs seemed to love it. Hell, the game directors were appointed as permanent tourist ambassadors. You do still have a point though, people can be weird nowadays.

True.

But I think Japanese settings and concepts sort of get a pass because they've always been popular and they've frequently been used in pop culture (if not the setting itself then at least concepts like Ninjas and Samurai). Also Japanese people aren't really seen as marginalized in the US anymore.

I think "latinos" are still more of a touchy subject, not to mention the history of native american people with "white people".

Without any big precedent of this setting being appealing to a lot of people (unlike Japan) I don't think any AAA studios is going to risk it.

 

[nowhat]

Give me a game similar to Apocalypto

A game with no resemblance to actual history whatsoever?



I think we've had plenty of those already.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

The hard part is that the Spanish did a too thorough job in destroying the local culture. In fact they did it so well, some of them regretted what they did and try to rescue what is left. So what we now know as the Central and South American culture is actually compiled by the Spanish from the bits and pieces that remained, which they published.

The Central and South Americans basically had their version of a mass murder "Chinese Cultural Revolution", to the point that we can probably never rebuild it in a videogame that wasn't mostly guesswork.

 

[Chuck Berry]

A game with no resemblance to actual history whatsoever?

Yup that's what I want. I want to play a game not get a fucking history lesson lol

 

[nowhat]

Yup that's what I want. I want to play a game not get a fucking history lesson lol

It just may be 100% fantasy at that point though, so I don't think it's that relevant to the topic at hand.

 

[Chuck Berry]

It just may be 100% fantasy at that point though, so I don't think it's that relevant to the topic at hand.

Check with the OP. It just might be. They didn't say otherwise.

 

[nowhat]

Check with the OP. It just might be. They didn't say otherwise.

Next you'll suggest I actually read the article before jumping into comments.

(but point taken)

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

When Assassin's Creed has finished doing Edo-era Japan.