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Wired: Next Playstation will be call Playstation 5. More details.
Negotiator
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They use both lossy (H.264) and lossless (LZMA/LZ77) algos for compressing data.
Also: http://egmr.net/2013/10/sony-shrank-killzone-shadow-fall-300-gb/
Vawn
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As much as I love VR, I threw up just thinking of Gravity Rush in VR.
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Nope. Parallelizable tasks don't care about latency or bus width. GDDR6 can go up to 512-bit and still be as fast as HBM2.
GDDR6 is more cost-effective (for now). That's all.
RTX performance will be improved when they'll be able to add more RT cores (hence the need for 7nm EUV next-year).
The RTX cores are used for BVH . I'm not sure how much of that is done in parallel.
This is a quote from a Battelfield V developer from a WCCFTech article.
"One of the optimisations that is built into the BVHs are our use of “overlapped” compute - multiple compute shaders running in parallel. This is not the same thing as async compute or simultaneous compute. It just means you can run multiple compute shaders in parallel. However, there is an implicit barrier injected by the driver that prevents these shaders running in parallel when we record our command lists in parallel for BVH building. This will be fixed in the future and we can expect quite a bit of performance here since it removes sync points and wait-for-idles on the GPU. "
https://wccftech.com/dice-ray-tracing-optimizations-bfv/
Mass Shift
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Omg, memories.
Never had a RROD though, but I felt for those who went through the frustration of it. Especially more than once.
dano1
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II_JumPeR_I
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Hudo
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Can someone who is familiar with market research and product marketing explain when it is better to use an arabic numeral (i.e. PlayStation 5) and when it is better to use a roman numeral (i.e. PlayStation V) for entertainment products (and electronic devices related to entertainment)?
Would love to hear the psychology behind why they went with the regular 5 and not with V.
Would love to hear the psychology behind why they went with the regular 5 and not with V.
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FranXico
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Because they were using arabic numerals until now, and didn't want to risk alienating the OCD audience
. I personally prefer this way too.
Hudo
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Well, going by Occam's Razor, that might actually be the real reason, haha. Also, it doesn't help that the abbreviation "PSV" is already taken as well (even though Sony have seem to forgotten...)Because they were using arabic numerals until now, and didn't want to risk alienating the OCD audience
Airbus Jr
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More comfrtable to read PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5....
Than PSI, PS II, PS III, PS IV....
Bcos its more globally aceptable and easier to understand
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Negotiator
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Battlefield V failed for some reason.
I guess they could use V if they wanted to pander to feminists. V power! Thank god they didn't.
Ar¢tos
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6x layer Blu-rays of 300gb are in the specs (50gb/layer), but those might be double sided.I believe this is the highest currently and I wouldn’t be surprised to see these also in use as they’re both BDXL formats.
TLZ
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DeltaPolarBear
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Market reserch aside, there are many nations where Roman Numerals are not commonly taught because there is no reason to. Many Asian countries don't care to specifically teach them at school, for example.
Roman numeral just doesn't have much reach outside Western countries.
DeepEnigma
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DeepEnigma
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It was definitely planned before RTX cards were publicly announced and released to retail.
Fake
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Playstation One X
DeepEnigma
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Myths
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I thought I’d seen something like this a long time ago younger, just never followed up. Wasn’t there some edgy TV advert for it too? Some guy in the city or am I thinking of something else?They did have a PlayStation X as well, with built-in DVR capabilities.
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DeepEnigma
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I’m not sure, possibly. Maybe thinking of the “PS9” commercial?
Myths
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Actually yeah, that’s the one. WAY BACK, I couldn’t figure out what that one was.
DeepEnigma
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spons
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Indeed. HEVC for video and OPUS for audio compress even better with little quality loss. They're already using the latter on PS4.
alabtrosMyster
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Well, everything is compressed in some way, video files are compressed with either h264 (I hope h265 is more common these days), textures should be compressed with some lossless algorithm otherwise your image quality gets compromised, same for audio if it's overly compressed the quality suffers quite a lot as we have seen in recent Switch ports (you probably won't notice if you output the sound through your TV's speakers, or some cheap sound bar).
Also note that it was noted in one of Sony's presentation that in many games a lot of assets are repeated many times over to mitigate slow loading time of current gen mechanical hard drives (up to 400 times in Spider Man PS4), so some games could save a lot of space there - and probably development time too.
So it's a trade off, I'd much rather have very very big games with high quality assets, than being able to put twice as much on my HDD.
All these issues affect pretty much only the AAA games, smaller indies games don't need more than the PS4 (many would still run well on the PS360, many of the 2D ones could probably be ported all the way down to the PS1 or Saturn with minimal sacrifices).
Hobbygaming
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You guys went from saying they don't have "hardware raytracing" to they dont have "dedicated cores" wow
DeepEnigma
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Journey
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In reality, who's moving goal posts and revising history? Fake news?
-Real news timeline
1. Gears of War dev says he's excited about RT Cores in Scarlett
Gears 5 developer says Xbox Scarlett has dedicated ray tracing cores
Microsoft's next-gen Xbox Scarlett reportedly has dedicated ray tracing cores.
www.tweaktown.com
2. News spreads through forums, OMG, Scarlett will have RT cores, but quickly, Sony defensive fans jump in to say PS5 must have RT Cores as well, there's no way Scarlett will have this, but their precious PS5 won't, it's simply unfathomable to them.
3. Diligent investigative Sony Gaf gets new quote from developer stating they changed their wording about "RT cores" and are now saying hardware ray tracing support, in an effort to negate any possible advantage that Scarlett may have. Whatever it is, it's certainly NOT RT cores, but just as Sony has stated, hardware support for RT.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Microsoft don't have a clue what they are doing 80 percent of the time by this time I think only windows is keeping them alive the rest departments are just wasting Microsoft's money! Azure, office 365 Most businesses fail at most of what they do, so 80% fail rate is not as bad as it seems...
4. You (DeepEnigma) quickly jump on this to say Whelp, we're back at where we started, that is to say, erase what the Gears of War dev said and assume it's just traditional hardware ray tracing and not RT Cores, in other words, you're agreeing that there is a difference here, look at your own post agreeing with this.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Microsoft don't have a clue what they are doing 80 percent of the time by this time I think only windows is keeping them alive the rest departments are just wasting Microsoft's money! Azure, office 365 Most businesses fail at most of what they do, so 80% fail rate is not as bad as it seems...
5. At the end of the thread, we all concluded that there must be a difference between what nVidia is doing and what AMD may end up having anyway, which is in some sort RT support, but from a new patent from AMD, looks to be some sort of hybrid RT solution.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Something, something on XboneX Gears 5 1080p at minimum, something, something 1800p max. during gameplay. Yeah, that's native 4k i presume. NXGamer said under heavy load it's usually 1260p...…...Dips and tears too....
There's definitely ways to have a decent discussion about tech, I get excited about this stuff, but please leave the fanboy crap out of it.
DeepEnigma
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In reality, who's moving goal posts and revising history? Fake news?
-Real news timeline
1. Gears of War dev says he's excited about RT Cores in Scarlett
Gears 5 developer says Xbox Scarlett has dedicated ray tracing cores
Microsoft's next-gen Xbox Scarlett reportedly has dedicated ray tracing cores.
2. News spreads through forums, OMG, Scarlett will have RT cores, but quickly, Sony defensive fans jump in to say PS5 must have RT Cores as well, there's no way Scarlett will have this, but their precious PS5 won't, it's simply unfathomable to them.
3. Diligent investigative Sony Gaf gets new quote from developer stating they changed their wording about "RT cores" and are now saying hardware ray tracing support, in an effort to negate any possible advantage that Scarlett may have. Whatever it is, it's certainly NOT RT cores, but just as Sony has stated, hardware support for RT.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Microsoft don't have a clue what they are doing 80 percent of the time by this time I think only windows is keeping them alive the rest departments are just wasting Microsoft's money! Azure, office 365 Most businesses fail at most of what they do, so 80% fail rate is not as bad as it seems...www.neogaf.com
4. You (DeepEnigma) quickly jump on this to say Whelp, we're back at where we started, that is to say, erase what the Gears of War dev said and assume it's just traditional hardware ray tracing and not RT Cores, in other words, you're agreeing that there is a difference here, look at your own post agreeing with this.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Microsoft don't have a clue what they are doing 80 percent of the time by this time I think only windows is keeping them alive the rest departments are just wasting Microsoft's money! Azure, office 365 Most businesses fail at most of what they do, so 80% fail rate is not as bad as it seems...
5. At the end of the thread, we all concluded that there must be a difference between what nVidia is doing and what AMD may end up having anyway, which is in some sort RT support, but from a new patent from AMD, looks to be some sort of hybrid RT solution.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Something, something on XboneX Gears 5 1080p at minimum, something, something 1800p max. during gameplay. Yeah, that's native 4k i presume. NXGamer said under heavy load it's usually 1260p...…...Dips and tears too....
There's definitely ways to have a decent discussion about tech, I get excited about this stuff, but please leave the fanboy crap out of it.
My whelp comment was a meta commentary (see: sarcasm, as to how these will always go back and forth on both sides).
Example, the meme I used.
Take off your selective goggles. I have always been in the camp that both consoles will have hardware based RT.
Of course it is fun to discuss this stuff, and criticism is not telling one not to.
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Journey
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DeltaPolarBear
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I am actually hoping Sony would employ Lighthouse technology for PSVR. This would be compatible with the patent as it uses cameras/detectors on its headset and controllers, similar to Valve headsets.wonder what wonderfull specs will be on new PSVR 2
The fully inside out without lighthouse is still too expensive and unreliable.
Hobbygaming
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Sony never changed what they said about Raytracing, people tried to run with this narrative that they were talking about software raytracing and Sony came out and elaboratedIn reality, who's moving goal posts and revising history? Fake news?
-Real news timeline
1. Gears of War dev says he's excited about RT Cores in Scarlett
Gears 5 developer says Xbox Scarlett has dedicated ray tracing cores
Microsoft's next-gen Xbox Scarlett reportedly has dedicated ray tracing cores.
2. News spreads through forums, OMG, Scarlett will have RT cores, but quickly, Sony defensive fans jump in to say PS5 must have RT Cores as well, there's no way Scarlett will have this, but their precious PS5 won't, it's simply unfathomable to them.
3. Diligent investigative Sony Gaf gets new quote from developer stating they changed their wording about "RT cores" and are now saying hardware ray tracing support, in an effort to negate any possible advantage that Scarlett may have. Whatever it is, it's certainly NOT RT cores, but just as Sony has stated, hardware support for RT.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Microsoft don't have a clue what they are doing 80 percent of the time by this time I think only windows is keeping them alive the rest departments are just wasting Microsoft's money! Azure, office 365 Most businesses fail at most of what they do, so 80% fail rate is not as bad as it seems...
4. You (DeepEnigma) quickly jump on this to say Whelp, we're back at where we started, that is to say, erase what the Gears of War dev said and assume it's just traditional hardware ray tracing and not RT Cores, in other words, you're agreeing that there is a difference here, look at your own post agreeing with this.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Microsoft don't have a clue what they are doing 80 percent of the time by this time I think only windows is keeping them alive the rest departments are just wasting Microsoft's money! Azure, office 365 Most businesses fail at most of what they do, so 80% fail rate is not as bad as it seems...
5. At the end of the thread, we all concluded that there must be a difference between what nVidia is doing and what AMD may end up having anyway, which is in some sort RT support, but from a new patent from AMD, looks to be some sort of hybrid RT solution.
Dedicated ray tracing cores for Xbox Scarlett?
Something, something on XboneX Gears 5 1080p at minimum, something, something 1800p max. during gameplay. Yeah, that's native 4k i presume. NXGamer said under heavy load it's usually 1260p...…...Dips and tears too....
There's definitely ways to have a decent discussion about tech, I get excited about this stuff, but please leave the fanboy crap out of it.
Also, both consoles will be powerful and have a lot of the same technology, anyone thinking otherwise is just lost in the sauce (no pun intended)
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FranXico
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Creepy patent illustrations though.wonder what wonderfull specs will be on new PSVR 2
Journey
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thelastword
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Succcint…….
Actually I was pretty shocked by the "PS5" naming revelation...….I mean, PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4...…….So here I was thinking, what are they going to name the next gen PlayStation.....
Literally..
When I saw what they named it......
Funny enough, when I first saw his name, I thought he was a huge fan of Journey from thatgamecompany……….The PS3 exclusive.....
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