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Wkd BO 624-2616 - ID4:2 & Deadpool bump (lol) not enough; Dory just keeps swimming~
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Storks looks like trash, so hopefully not that.
Doc Strange, Fantastic Beasts, Moana, Sing, and Rogue One are locks. Trolls, probably. Dreamworks doesn't have that many films under $100M. Passengers is going to depend on reviews, as will Magnificent Seven to some extent.
I don't know about Ms Peregrine's. Time Burton hasn't had a film over $100M since Alice, and that was his only film over the mark in the past decade. No one even bothered going to his last film.
BronsonLee
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Oh cool, thanks ma-*kick to the groin*
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Agreed.
MisterHero
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TRON 3 didn't die because Tron: Legacy was mediocre, TRON died because of Tomorrowland.
so yeah, it's not your fault TRON. It's not your fault...
so yeah, it's not your fault TRON. It's not your fault...
BronsonLee
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THANKS BRAD BIRD
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I bet Magnificent Seven takes off. Everytime I've seen that trailer run, the audience I'm with has reacted, and basically in the same way every time:
1) Oh shit, Denzel is a cowboy
2) Oh shit, it's Chris Pratt
3) Oh shit, this is The Magnificent Seven
1) Oh shit, Denzel is a cowboy
2) Oh shit, it's Chris Pratt
3) Oh shit, this is The Magnificent Seven
Disney was hoping that Tron would be their next POTC series, and that didn't pan out.
I think that Disney has given up on finding a New POTC series though. They'll drive the cartoon remakes/sequels/whatever into the ground, and coast on safe animation, Marvel, and Star Wars for the next decade.
Look at Disney's confirmed release slate in 2017:
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 3/17/17
Born in China - 4/21/17
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 5/5/17
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 5/26/17
Cars 3 - 6/16/17
Untitled Disney Fairy-Tale (2017) - 7/28/17
Thor: Ragnarok - 11/3/17
Coco - 11/22/17
Star Wars: Episode VIII - 12/15/17
Born in China is some Disneynature thing on Pandas that is basically done as a charity write off.
Cars 3 is a $150M toy commercial. Other than the unannounced July film, everything else is as close to risk free as you are going to get. Ironically, Pirates 5 is probably the riskiest film on that slate.
I think that Disney has given up on finding a New POTC series though. They'll drive the cartoon remakes/sequels/whatever into the ground, and coast on safe animation, Marvel, and Star Wars for the next decade.
Look at Disney's confirmed release slate in 2017:
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 3/17/17
Born in China - 4/21/17
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 5/5/17
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 5/26/17
Cars 3 - 6/16/17
Untitled Disney Fairy-Tale (2017) - 7/28/17
Thor: Ragnarok - 11/3/17
Coco - 11/22/17
Star Wars: Episode VIII - 12/15/17
Born in China is some Disneynature thing on Pandas that is basically done as a charity write off.
Cars 3 is a $150M toy commercial. Other than the unannounced July film, everything else is as close to risk free as you are going to get. Ironically, Pirates 5 is probably the riskiest film on that slate.
BronsonLee
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They were battling from way too far back anyway. Tron: Legacy was like Force Awakens in that you were trying to revive an IP, but real recognizing real, Tron was a shit movie and Star Wars is the biggest film franchise in history
PhoncipleBone
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Same feeling. Of course, I thought ID4R would hit big. What do I know?
The real test for Pratt (and JLaw) is Passengers.
I have been getting the feeling that audiences have cooled on Jlaw in the past year. The last one of her films that hasn't come in under expectations was Days of Future Past.
Magnificent Seven does strike me as something that might dethrone American Gangster as Denzel's personal best. Him and Antoine Fuqua have had pretty good success together as well.
Magnificent Seven does strike me as something that might dethrone American Gangster as Denzel's personal best. Him and Antoine Fuqua have had pretty good success together as well.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Fuqua is Denzel's new Tony Scott?
RIP Tony.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
He's gonna get exiled from Disney if Incredibles 2 bombs.
I think it would be funny as shit if it happens.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Even if it bombs, all I care about is the quality of the film. Remember, Iron Giant was a bomb.
BronsonLee
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And it fucking deserved to bomb goddammit
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Gentleman Jack
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Oh my god
BronsonLee
Member
Warner tends to do that
I won't be deterred dammit
I have no idea how that movie got made
Bird used up all his Incredibles + Mission Impossible juice to run over a kid with a truck in a movie
MHWilliams
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Deader than roadkill, my friend.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
On Pirates of the Caribbean 5, I'm thinking lower than $700M
Possibly. It's going to need BvS money to break even. Maybe more than that.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
If ever you said something ban worthy, it is this...
I mean, I think I'd be on friendly terms with the director that directed me to an Oscar, too.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
More. Shit is already $300M+ without tax rebates. Add the rumored $50M extra to production costs due to Johnny Depp's injuries, it's a loss leader theatrically.
I'm thinking Disney's relationship with Jerry Bruckheimer and Johnny ends after this indefinitely.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
He didn't deserve it for that. Training Day, and Denzel's performance in it are overrated. Denzel always did consistently better work under Tony Scott.
Everyone talks about how awesome and scary Denzel was in Training Day, while I think he was much better and infinitely scarier in Man on Fire.
And Disney can't really ride the merchandising train as hard on that one either.
I'm not sure what Tony did that got the Academy so consistently against recognizing him. Yeah, he was much more commercial-minded than his older brother, but who can hate on the guy that directed, among other things, the music videos for Danger Zone and One More Try?
Jackasses, that's who!
BronsonLee
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Doubt it. 4 was almost the top grossing entry in the damn franchise somehow. It'll do alright
Look man I ain't saying it's a bad movie but that concept never had a chance
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Nothing really Oscar worthy from Tony, but the man was always very solid with his output. Hell, half the fun of Crimson Tide was just Denzel and Hackman yelling at each other.
Nobody cares about Tron
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Much like Crowe's win for Gladiator was an apology for him not winning for The Insider.
Malcolm X and The Hurricane.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Hurricane came out same year as The Insider. Russel Crowe deserved it that year, but everyone was blinded by American Beauty.
Much like I am blinded by the cinematic masterpiece that is Divergent.
Ya, the Academy can be backwards like that. Denzel didn't win for Malcolm X because the Academy realized that they never gave Al Pacino his statue back when he really deserved it in the 70s.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I'm betting on currency headwinds, lower domestic ($241M) & Japan ($108M) gross than its predecessor for such a result - which I believe could be the case for Pirates 5, don't think China will save it, but we'll see.
Now about that Tron 3, I WANT IT DISNEY!
I thought that was Prince of Persia and The Lone Ranger.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Hoo ah!
It was every big flop they've had since 2003. Finding the next POTC became their white whale until they realized it was easier to just buy shit that was already successful.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Other fine, successful and profitable Jerry Bruckheimer produced films....
You forgot The Sorcerer's Apprentice
Disney so done with him after P5.
It looks like Me Before You will end up over $150M worldwide on its $20M budget. It's currently coming off a $19.5M weekend with $111M to date. I guess we can expect to see Emilia Clarke in more films.
The Conjuring 2 made $28.7M this weekend worldwide, bring its total to $243M. The first film made $318M. The Conjuring 2 might not make it quite that high but it will be close.
The Jungle Book will end up needing $55-60M from Japan to hit the $1B mark. Last year, Cinderella made $47M in Japan.
X-Men Apocalypse made $6M worldwide this weekend, bringing its total to $525M. It still has an opening in Japan in August, but Japan doesn't give a shit about the X-Men. DOFP made less than $10M there. It's looking like Vinny was on the mark with his $550M forecast way back when.
The Conjuring 2 made $28.7M this weekend worldwide, bring its total to $243M. The first film made $318M. The Conjuring 2 might not make it quite that high but it will be close.
The Jungle Book will end up needing $55-60M from Japan to hit the $1B mark. Last year, Cinderella made $47M in Japan.
X-Men Apocalypse made $6M worldwide this weekend, bringing its total to $525M. It still has an opening in Japan in August, but Japan doesn't give a shit about the X-Men. DOFP made less than $10M there. It's looking like Vinny was on the mark with his $550M forecast way back when.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Japan LOVES X-Men. They gave the cartoon a crazy (great) theme song of their own, Capcom used them heavily in their fighting games, hell, their manga even blatantly ripped off the character designs.
They don't love the Fox-Men, and for good reason. They're decent movies in their own right, but mediocre adaptations of the material. If Fox could be bothered to properly adapt X-Men it would be a massive franchise (as seen with Deadpool, a proper adaptation that creamed every regular X-flick).
I would say Tron died because Legacy only did okay business and then Disney bought Star Wars so they didn't need Tron anymore.TRON 3 didn't die because Tron: Legacy was mediocre, TRON died because of Tomorrowland.
so yeah, it's not your fault TRON. It's not your fault...
BronsonLee
Member
Which is funny to me because I think Legacy was the better revival
But yeah they don't need Tron
They DO need National Treasure
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They don't need either of 'em.
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