WhiteRabbitEXE
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To drive home how much ID4-2 isn't Jurassic World, this opening weekend came in at $13m less than JW's third weekend. Hell, ID4-2's domestic total is looking like it will be smaller than JW's second weekend.
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Wkd BO 624-2616 - ID4:2 & Deadpool bump (lol) not enough; Dory just keeps swimming~
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Yeah, Jurassic World was a different beast. That was greenlit before this 90's nostalgia thing that was making the rounds a while back. Jurassic Park has managed to stand the test of time, so it was reasonable to try again even if the previous sequels were lousy.
It's more the stuff like "Avengers-style movie starring the Nicktoons" that sound iffy. What's next, a "Finding Dory-style movie starring Big Mouth Billy Bass"?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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While it almost certainly would have done at least somewhat better, I honestly don't think it would have done that much better. Especially since they probably still would have focused heavily on the weak "next generation" cast.
Mix Master
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I don't ever want to see Spielberg complain about superheroes ever again when he puts out dumb looking shit like BFG, fuck outta here man.
This is the same dude who directed Saving Private Ryan? What a fucking shame.
This is the same dude who directed Saving Private Ryan? What a fucking shame.
I haven't seen the film, but in general it doesn't seem like actors sell movies these days (at least domestically). Arnold didn't seem to help Genisys, for example. It may have given the film a minor boost, but it may not have even been enough to cover his paycheck. It's not really a star driven business right now, it's about the "event". People didn't care about this event.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Is this a meme or a terrible post
That 63% Sun-Mon drop for Resurgence is the largest drop in the...well, everything reported so far. I'm guessing the drop for next weekend is on that order, as well.
ViewtifulJC
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Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Just to beat that horse a bit more... ID4 made $8.2M on its first Monday, which adjusts to $16M today. It's delirious the gulf between the two performances, but definitely fascinating to watch such a worst-case scenario box office run.
How does Dory's Mon/Mon drop compare to other animation films?
Sorcerer
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I wonder if there is some confusion here. When I see BFG i think of "Big Fucking Gun" not a book by the author of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."
The movie should have just been called "Big Friendly Giant".
Sorcerer
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Everybody I know who saw it loved it. I guess the damage from the first movie was pretty immense. Shame.
Don't have time to check many, but Toy Story 3's second Sun-Mon drop was 52.5%, vs. 53.6% with Dory, so pretty comparable. Their weekend comparison is nearly identical as well - 46% drop for Dory vs. 46.2%.
Frozen was when school was in session, so it's not a good comparison. Finding Nemo dropped 69.5%, but that was early June and most schools were still in session. From those TS3 is the best comp. I'm sure others can find better ones.
So far it's tracking to TS3 tightly. If it ends up with the same OW multiplier, Dory lands around $509m domestic.
Edit: I misread you as asking about Sun-Mon drops. So there's that. :\
MindCollizion
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I thought it meant best friend giant heh.
1st Monday to 2nd Monday drops
Finding Dory - 47.8%
Inside Out -34.0%
Toy Story 3 - 42.8%
Despicable Me 2 - 46.3%
Minions - 55.4%
Last Monday probably had spill-over from Sunday though since Dory had the best Sun to Mon drop and the worst Sat to Sun drop iirc.
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Finding Dory is currently #6 for 2016 domestically.
Dory will pass BvS on Thursday, Zootopia on Friday, The Jungle book on Saturday, and Deadpool on either Saturday as well or on Sunday.
Civil War will fall some time in the following week.
manzoman96
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Take me to the river if you want to live!
Enjoyed the Turtles part of it, Michelangelo stole the show.
Looks like The Conjuring will leg it out to $100M.
The first one did close to $140M, so it's still a decent sized drop.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
James Cameron's opinion of Star Wars: The Force Awakens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJKtPJk3b2M
He right
Edit: whole interview for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLE0QXytO6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJKtPJk3b2M
He right
Edit: whole interview for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLE0QXytO6w
Discotheque
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The salty will jump on this but it is absolutely right. It's also a fact that I don't think Abrams would disagree with too much either. They went back to the OT's aesthetic for the force awakens anyways.
Hopefully rians episode 8 feels more fresh now that we've had our huge nostalgia kick
JC da gawd.
More than speaking what is obvious, it's clear he didn't like it heh.
Discotheque
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Kinda weird how this random youtube channel got such a good interview with him. Did she run into him in the neighborhood or something
ViewtifulJC
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I dont think George liked it either. "The fans got what they wanted". Yes, exactly what they wanted and nothing they didnt know they wanted like Star Wars was originally.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Just finished the full interview, it was fantastic and can't wait for Avatar and Alita. And I couldn't agree more with him on Star Wars. I was left sorely disappointed, but at the same time, I'm eagerly anticipating what Lucasfilm does with Episode 8 and where the story goes.
He's 100% right. He's stating the obvious.
MHWilliams
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Big name actors don't really act as a huge box office draw these days.
That's what I can't figure out. Has to be a relative or friends daughter.
ViewtifulJC
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The real question is how random film class students can now get 20 minute interviews with James Cameron to talk about his filmmaking process. My university film class just had random D-list screenwriters.
Spyder_Monkey
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Jurassic World was clearly banking on the nostalgia of a good movie (Jurassic Park) while ID4-2 was banking on the nostalgia of a bad movie without its biggest star. Box office is more dependent on quality and word of mouth more now than its ever been. A bad movie isn't going to do well no matter what. Look at Terminator, look at Robocop, look at Batman v Superman: Made Less than Deadpool at the US box office. If ID4-2 is bad, then nobody's going to see it.
BvS's $330M looks better now than it did in April, I'll tell you that much.
I'll take the moral victory breh, don't rain on my parade.
I'll take the moral victory breh, don't rain on my parade.
Only salt evident is those so quick to prop up what is a fairly minimal and political statement and proclaim he obviously hated the movie and is right and telling it like it is and just saying what's true and anyone who can't deal with it is an idiot.
ViewtifulJC
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This is the part where I remind people James Cameron liked Terminator 3 and Genesys
Sibersk Esto
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or claimed to during their marketing stages at least
BronsonLee
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Disney's check didn't clear in time for that interview obviously
It is interesting to see a lot of big budget movies either flop or under-perform. Does anyone have a good sense of why that is?
Is it that there are too many blockbuster movies made now which need massive popularity to break even?
Is the fear of people settling to watch most movies at home rather than going to the theater playing out?
Is this year's poor performance just about the individual films more than any significant trends?
Aye. He was descriptive: it was a retrenchment to the visual style in the OT, and made steps in a new direction with new characters, and the jury is still out on where it's going. That's all he said. We can quibble over "baby steps", but otherwise it's a pretty accurate description that both fans and detractors should be able to agree on. I love TFA dearly, but his description is correct.
Saucycarpdog
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It's funny cause Jeff Goldblum stared in both ID4 and Jurassic Park. Unfortunately he choose to be in the lesser sequel.
ViewtifulJC
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Jeff Goldblum's already been in a bad Jurassic Park sequel, to be fair.
The movie itself is bad. Smith wouldn't have saved it as-is, but maybe with him in the movie, the director would've focused on him and his story arc. Might have made the movie better.
As-is ID4 is little more than another high-budget Young Adult movie.
When do people start calling him sexist? Has that happened yet?
Saucycarpdog
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Really? I've never seen Jurassic Park II and III.
Most of the way through, and it's a great interview, despite the interviewer clearly being new to conducting them (every question is from a card, rather than flowing from what Cameron is saying). His comments about shot length are spot on, and there's a great insight into how he reviews his action edits: by flopping the image horizontally and making sure the action can still be followed, to ensure he hasn't just memorized the flow.
"What failures have you learned from?"
"I'll let you know as soon as I have one."
Probably deserves its own thread, TBH.
Why would anyone do so from this interview?
NHarmonic.
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Give me the force awakens over everything blue pocahontas-related , ever. Ups.
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