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Wrasslin' Thread 20XX |OT| New Age WrestleGAF
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eastcoastkody
Member
reminder that we're getting Edge vs. AJ Styles. Basically a 2007 dream match
Classicrockfan
Banned
Georges Chiellins
Member
Crap, really? I liked Cesaro
Naked Lunch
Member
That House of Black vs Penta and Pac was the cheesiest shit ive ever seen. That dork alex dressed like the crypt keeper. House of Black theme song is so bad its not even funny. Bray wyatt seems to be the only modern wrestler able to pull off the supernatural stuff.
I look at AEW as going thru different seasons from one PPV to the next and this season has been the worst one by far. Really losing interest in the product. MJF feud should have ended already. Kenny Omega and Miro are sorely missed. Luckily once the storylines remix it could improve - but right now its crap.
I look at AEW as going thru different seasons from one PPV to the next and this season has been the worst one by far. Really losing interest in the product. MJF feud should have ended already. Kenny Omega and Miro are sorely missed. Luckily once the storylines remix it could improve - but right now its crap.
Dthomp
Member
To me, the big thing holding AEW down right now is Page. He’s not a good champion, his character was the chase. He gets somewhere in the middle to upper middle reaction, and that’s mostly that stupid chant the fans love. Go back to dynamite for his ok baby face reaction going after Red Dragon, then listen to the crowd erupt when Adam Cole comes next. They need to put the belt on Cole at Revolution. He has multiple stories playing out and can have great matches with anyone. Page is young HHH where he could put on good to great matches only when paired with legends or greats.
Im in opposite camp, I enjoy the House of Black, love the addition of Buddy. It’s a little goofy, but Tony draws stuff out too far sometimes, and I think that’s the case here. Add the other member (Julia?) and let them be a different kind of faction. If I could delete a faction from AEW that isnt Inner Circle, it’d be Death Triangle. Three guys who are SIGNIFICANLTY more interesting as singles wrestlers being stuck in a group doing nothing. Alex needs to develop some sort of evil personality and take Penta and run it back to Lucia Underground Penta.
Im in opposite camp, I enjoy the House of Black, love the addition of Buddy. It’s a little goofy, but Tony draws stuff out too far sometimes, and I think that’s the case here. Add the other member (Julia?) and let them be a different kind of faction. If I could delete a faction from AEW that isnt Inner Circle, it’d be Death Triangle. Three guys who are SIGNIFICANLTY more interesting as singles wrestlers being stuck in a group doing nothing. Alex needs to develop some sort of evil personality and take Penta and run it back to Lucia Underground Penta.
eastcoastkody
Member
i wouldn't say thats the biggest problem. But the world champ Page problem does stick out like a sore thumb. When there is like 15 other things going on in AEW that ppl care about more than Adam Page. He's an afterthought. And its not just Page's fault. But he's put on in throwaway segments in the middle of the show. There is just no focus on him.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I wonder if aew will sign the Briscoes? Seems like a no brainer but they're still going around the indies.
Dthomp
Member
I imagine they are holding some surprises for Revolution and following shows. Too many free agents out there not to snag them up.
Dthomp
Member
Sure I can agree there is more then 1 problem, but when your champ isn't a good enough draw outside of a feud with Omega, after being fed Danielson to "make" him, then there is something wrong with your champ. The Champion SHOULD be a major focus, but with his story ending with the Omega win where do you go? His friendship with the Dork Order? It's fine to admit that maybe you pulled the trigger on a title change prematurely and move on. I like long term booking, but having the decision of who was winning the title from who and when should have went out the window when after two years your roster had additions like Danielson, Punk, Miro, Keith Lee now, Adam Cole. Page to me needed more midcard build of his character the way MJF has had. I've said before, I think those two feuding over the TNT title would have been a great 1 year-2 year rivalry before they were both ready to move into the Main Event.
I hope for a title change a Revolution, as it would be a step towards something happening that can involve many parties. So far, AEW has struggled in the way they book most of their champs. They win the belt and then are basically completely untouchable. I mean, Mox still years later has less then 4 losses I think. Only guy to put over others was Jericho, and while Omega didn't lose alot, he made sure the other guys looked credible like Jericho did. Maybe Khan is learning that while long term booking is good, when your roster grows with the talent they have, sometimes things need to change. After Bryan/Omega, I honestly would have put the belt on Bryan after Full Gear. Dude is on another level, and still gets great reactions while being a heel. I'm not a fan of whatever his program with Mox is going, but it's still more interesting then Page being a shitty friend, or fighting Archer in a meaningless "Death Match".
At least it looks like the winner of the Sonic Ring gets a TNT title match, hopefully this leads to Lee or some great worker/speaker combination to take the belt of Sammy.
Kagey K
Banned
I said a few months ago AEW was at risk of falling into the WCW, TNA trap of hiring released WWF performers and losing thier identity.
Seems it's happening. They should have stuck with what was working, and slowly brought in the other talent.
Instead it's looking like Raw .05 right now.
They are going to over leverage themselves in contracts real quick, with nobody getting tv time and everyone getting paid.
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Dthomp
Member
I disagree a bit, WCW was paying dudes crazy monet, but they were rarely dudes the wwf cared about to begin with. I don’t believe Khan is as dumb with the spending that Bischoff was. Hogan, Hall, Nash, Macho? Sure. But then they all got their buddies hired for more then they were worth. For what it seems AEW doesn’t pay anywhere near wwe levels of money outside of Jericho and Punk, dudes just want to work somewhere fun. Only ex wwe guys there I’m personally not a fan of are PAC, Spears (A Cody friend…) and Andrade, but I don’t put that all on him, I love Andrade from nxt and main roster. I don’t like whatever this version of him is.
Kagey K
Banned
I'm not even really looking at the backstage, but AEW just doesn't have the TV time right now to push everyone they have.
Even for enthusiasts that watch Dark and other programming, they just don't have enough time to do anything with most of the roster.
They are going to have to make some choices soon about who is actually important, and I'd hate to see them get rid of a Darby or a Jungle Boy for an ex WWE guy
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Bullet Club
Banned
That could be the worst WM match ever.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Fucking hell VKM has gone and lost the plot. This better be a comedic match other wise nah.
I doubt it'll be as bad as Zayn Vs. Knoxville at Wrestlemania. (Which they're clearly going to have. The only real question is will Knoxville cost Sami the IC title to trigger it or if it will actually be for the title.) Yeah I know, damning with faint praise.
Bullet Club
Banned
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Where did GCW come from and why has it blown up so much in the last few years? I thought it was some garbage death match promotion in Atlanta but they keep drawing in big stars and pretty impressive looking audiences for a promotion with no tv.
eastcoastkody
Member
well WWE released 100 wrestlers in the last 3 years. Thats enough to let every tom dick and harry have someone with a name on their cards now.
I tried to watch 5 mins of GCW once. They had like 3 real wrestlers. And a bunch of ppl that shouldn't even be on a show at a highschool gym let alone on a ppv.
Bullet Club
Banned
GCW started getting bigger when they started doing those Joey Janela shows about 5 years ago. The popularity of those and Bloodsport helped GCW grow.
The Nick Gage Dark Side episode also gave them a boost.
The Nick Gage Dark Side episode also gave them a boost.
Going back to Hangman Page, UK viewer so don't often watch the full shows, he doesn't "look" like he wants to be champion.
When you look at the crowd response too, he just seems like he is booked out of his depth.
Be interesting to see if they pull the trigger on Mox and Bryan as a two man power trip V2, Page chasing a title might work better.
Wrestlemania looks f'ing shocking, how long is it this year?
When you look at the crowd response too, he just seems like he is booked out of his depth.
Be interesting to see if they pull the trigger on Mox and Bryan as a two man power trip V2, Page chasing a title might work better.
Wrestlemania looks f'ing shocking, how long is it this year?
Bullet Club
Banned
2 nights, 3-4 hours per night.
And NXT Stand and Deliver which is apparently at noon on day one of Wrestlemania.(Although apparently not in the same Arena as Wrestlemania but both are in Dallas.) You know in case you didn't get quite enough WWE that day.
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Bullet Club
Banned
Georges Chiellins
Member
Nice promo!
Hinedorf
Banned
Not interested in either Briscos or Hardys at this point. I'm starting to think the EVP's are what made AEW good as TK's bookings the last few weeks have been garbage imo.....
If you got all this talent on your roster and your answer is looking for MORE TALENT, then TK is officially bad at his job. I hope this isn't true but I'm seeing a pattern of boring consistency much worse than even WWE. Maybe I'm just in a rut with AEW right now but it feels highly underwhelming.
Dthomp
Member
I don’t have an issue with any of the signings he’s made. What I think we are seeing is Tony overthinking things. He saw what ruined all the other promotions and a big thing was impact not pushing it’s own talent enough, same with wcw booking. So now we see the push of guys who just aren’t ready to be on tv every week as the promotions champions.
Fox Mulder
Member
It has to be a short thing to put Mcafee over. Vince is like 76 and looks old as shit.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Speculation on what the AEW huge announcement is? I'm guessing a new bigger tv deal. The only other two things I could think of is maybe a stadium show. Maybe their own streaming service?
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Classicrockfan
Banned
That would be cool if Tony announced two new sets of titles the woman’s tag titles,and los trios titles.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
New tv deal.
Women's tag titles would be a huge boost to the division IMO.
Hinedorf
Banned
Fox Mulder
Member
Expanding AEW to HBO Max would be big for them. Like a new show, streaming library, or even PPVs.
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ElRenoRaven
Member
Close. Just made the announcement and AEW has purchased Ring of Honor. Kind of weird seeing as ROH was dead. Dont' really think this was worthy of all the hype to be honest.
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Well I guess that would keep their tape library away from Vince.(Since he owns so many of them already.) Doesn't Vince own WCW, AWA, WCCW, ECW, and GWF?
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I imagine they'll either just absorb the tape library and whatever talent hasn't gotten out already. Or maybe they'll use it as a feeder type of territory like ovw was for wwe.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Yea I mean the tape library is a huge boost for an eventual AEW streaming service. Also it keeps that library out of Vince's hands. That's the only real advantage though. It certainly wasn't an announcement wroth the hype given it.
Dthomp
Member
I’d assume that’s a lot of it. I think having it for an inevitable streaming service is useful having Punk, Bryan, and so many old RoH guys on roster. Did RoH have a tv deal? They desperately needed more tv time before this purchase, but it’s not like we know what he actually bought since everybody was fired.
Dthomp
Member
Yeah, he’s gotta calm it a bit on major announcement stuff. This could have been a press release, it’s not like there was probably more then a couple suitors looking for the library.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Ring of Honor was carried on Sinclair owned stations. They own local stations accross the country.