Deerock71
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These games are new to me. I avoided the RRoD fiasco.It is amazing isn't it ?
You can get 10 or so classic games, which we grew up on, for $20~ now... many with resolution and/or frame rate enhancements.
These games are new to me. I avoided the RRoD fiasco.It is amazing isn't it ?
You can get 10 or so classic games, which we grew up on, for $20~ now... many with resolution and/or frame rate enhancements.
They made an honest statement. Feels better than deliberately lying. They delivered so much, I am 100% satisfied with their effort.
Of course.Was it honest when they said the exact same thing 2 years ago?
Are there that many xbox 360 Activision games out there?The biggest problem with more BC games is licensing, not inability. The moment the ink is dry on the deal I expect a boat-load of Acti-Bizz games going back to the OG Xbox to hit Gamepass.
List of Acivision-published Xbox games.Are there that many xbox 360 Activision games out there?
Mobygames lists 63 Original Xbox games and 538 X360 games. Of course, a lot of those are just duplicate entries based on dlc and addons. Someone else can calculate the real number.Are there that many xbox 360 Activision games out there?
The XBO version is payable still.The Mouse sure as hell doesn't want people playing the Deadpool game for some reason for example.
Hopefully PGR and Blur, if the Car and Music licenses are still valid / not an issue here.was it Activision that bought Bizarre creations? could this mean we could finally see PGR in backwards compat if the deal goes through?
No, a profle needs to be downloaded.I need to know :
If I buy a Series X now, can I insert and play my supported OG XBOX and 360 games out of the box, without an internet connection and without updating anything?
My last Xbox was a 360 (first model with HDMI).
You need internet, for 360 and OG games the disk only acts a check, you download the game completely.I need to know :
If I buy a Series X now, can I insert and play my supported OG XBOX and 360 games out of the box, without an internet connection and without updating anything?
My last Xbox was a 360 (first model with HDMI).
No, a profle needs to be downloaded.
You need internet, for 360 and OG games the disk only acts a check, you download the game completely.
This applies to Series X and Xbox one consoles.
How can you type here if you don't have Internet?Crap, okay thanks for the answers. Then for me is no longer interesting.
They didn't want to, probably thought it was a waste of time if they made no money from it.But MS wasnt even able (or dont want to) to get Forza Motorsport 1-4 into BC
Only Forza game that got the BC treatment is Forza Horizon 1.
I have internet, but more importantly, I don't want to have to rely on providers, updates and downloads. So I just connect the old console to the TV and can play the original games - offline. It would have been handy to have one console for all games. If MS decides at some point to stop offering this BC service, you'll look stupid if you relied on it. Worst case scenario, I want to be able to run my TV and console completely offline via power storage / battery / power unit. Times are fragile.How can you type here if you don't have Internet?
I understand your reasoning, but there's a reason they're making everybody download the games instead of being able to install from the DVD drive. The games they're delivering are custom modified/patched for the emulation method they have in place. If I recall correctly they don't even have the same size as the original DVD's, 7.5 GB becomes a 10 GB download or something.I have internet, but more importantly, I don't want to have to rely on providers, updates and downloads. So I just connect the old console to the TV and can play the original games - offline. It would have been handy to have one console for all games. If MS decides at some point to stop offering this BC service, you'll look stupid if you relied on it. Worst case scenario, I want to be able to run my TV and console completely offline via power storage / battery / power unit. Times are fragile.
And I don't find xbox games from the past 2 generations that important to have to buy a series x just for them.
I have no problem with Microsoft's approach and am glad that they offer it at all. Only for me the feature becomes uninteresting in terms of preservation due to the online only limitation. So it makes more sense for me to keep the old consoles, which I do anyway, and plug them in when needed.I understand your reasoning, but there's a reason they're making everybody download the games instead of being able to install from the DVD drive. The games they're delivering are custom modified/patched for the emulation method they have in place. If I recall correctly they don't even have the same size as the original DVD's, 7.5 GB becomes a 10 GB download or something.
You have no guarantee they'll still offer those for next gen after Xbox Series S/X, but you have the guarantee they'll keep the support this gen and probably a while afterwards even if they eventually drop it.
That's fair enough.I have no problem with Microsoft's approach and am glad that they offer it at all. Only for me the feature becomes uninteresting in terms of preservation due to the online only limitation. So it makes more sense for me to keep the old consoles, which I do anyway, and plug them in when needed.
I remember replacing my 20gb HDD with a 120gb one back in the days. Basically making an Elite out of an Arcade for cheap.That's fair enough.
My only complaint with Xbox 360 in 2022 is that installing a SSD is impossible without RGH/JTAG. I don't like mechanical HDD's at this point, and if it breaks and I can't find a replacement the console is toast. It's probably the only console where SSD is impossible to install as I can easily put one on a PS2, PS3, OG Xbox... Drives me mad.
Only worked on certain HDD's. Microsoft was buying western digital (I think) and punching modified firmwares into them. The community caught wind of it, ripped those firmwares, reverse engineered the different "blocks" and made a list of compatible/patchable stuff.I remember replacing my 20gb HDD with a 120gb one back in the days. Basically making an Elite out of an Arcade for cheap.
So I really only changed the HDD, not the whole unit. I think you had to flash some bios or something on it. It's been a while, but you can teach yourself again. At that time there where no consumer 2,5'' SSDs yet, or at least not that I knew of, but I do not know why that should not work today. Even an OG xbox is expandable with an SSD.
Ah, you're right, now I remember. It had to be a certain one! Ah good times.Only worked on certain HDD's. Microsoft was buying western digital (I think) and punching modified firmwares into them. The community caught wind of it, ripped those firmwares, reverse engineered the different "blocks" and made a list of compatible/patchable stuff. Here it is.
But they were never able to make HDD's from any manufacturer work on it, and by the time SSD's become popular there was never a hack to do the same thing. Probably because they never made a X360 with a SSD. If you do that hack on a SSD and it goes through (dunno if possible) it would just install HDD firmware onto a SSD and brick it.
Like I said, I'm still waiting for a solution that tricks the system and allows me to install a regular SSD with DRAM before they turn off the online support altogether and I lose access to patches and DLC.
Yes! I've been seeing those developments on other platforms and have my fingers crossedAh, you're right, now I remember. It had to be a certain one! Ah good times.
The future will certainly deliver something suitable. Once the 360 is "retro" and new or more lovers deal with it ... a few weeks ago I modded my old gamecube with a raspberrry pi pico to read data from micro sd card, maybe we can hope for a similar solution.
They did allow upto 2TB of USB storage per drive, for upto 4TB storage in total. But even with an SSD you're stuck with USB 2.0 speeds, and on the S models the USB bus is quite congested since bandwidth is shared with the WiFi adaptor and the on board memory unit. The Kinect port supposedly uses its own bus and is USB based, so it might be possible to use that through cable modding.Only worked on certain HDD's. Microsoft was buying western digital (I think) and punching modified firmwares into them. The community caught wind of it, ripped those firmwares, reverse engineered the different "blocks" and made a list of compatible/patchable stuff.
EDIT: Here it is, and yes, they were Western Digital drives. It also explains that Microsoft was charging a 300% premium for drives with compatible firmware.
But they were never able to make HDD's from any manufacturer work on it, and by the time SSD's become popular there was never a hack to do the same thing. Probably because Microsoft themselves never made a X360 with a SSD. If you do that hack on a SSD and it goes through (dunno if possible) it would just install HDD firmware onto a SSD and brick it.
Like I said, I'm still waiting for a solution that tricks the system and allows me to install a regular SSD with DRAM before they turn off the online support altogether and I lose access to patches and DLC.
Like this. I'm on a DoD connection. I don't have access to internet for my personal devices at the moment and won't until sometime next year. There are some of us out there who literally can't download anythingHow can you type here if you don't have Internet?
Its crazy to think if you want to play the best tennis game released in the past 10 years, you still need to plug in the 360 or PS3
FM4 is a real pitty...They didn't want to, probably thought it was a waste of time if they made no money from it.
Forza 4 is/was a pity.
Hmm, I think even further than that.
Guess you aren't a fan of Top Spin 4 then...
And they never even released a complete edition like they did with FM3. So now all DLC is gone for someone who didn’t buy it at the time.FM4 is a real pitty...
IMO still the most complete and best Forza Motorsport game.
I mean even modes like Car Soccer etc. were in the game and the awesome car list including normal everyday cars.. none of the newer titles ever came close..
I still keep my 360 just for Forza Motorsport 4.And they never even released a complete edition like they did with FM3. So now all DLC is gone for someone who didn’t buy it at the time.
All that content lost to time, unless you sail the seas…
I need to know :
If I buy a Series X now, can I insert and play my supported OG XBOX and 360 games out of the box, without an internet connection and without updating anything?
My last Xbox was a 360 (first model with HDMI).
Is there a way to check what DLC I miss etc. without hooking up the x360?And they never even released a complete edition like they did with FM3. So now all DLC is gone for someone who didn’t buy it at the time.
All that content lost to time, unless you sail the seas…
A terrible shame "The Thing"(Based on the amazing John Carpenter movie) and "The Chronicles of Riddick: Attack on Butcher Bay"
OG Xbox discs won't play in my Xbox One X. My brother game me brand new ones sealed and I cracked them open, hoping I'd
be able to play them on my One X through backwards compatibility but yeah...not happening. Sucks man.
How can you type here if you don't have Internet?
I mean - you're obviously familiar with modding consoles, so at this point you're probably well aware that the best option for preservation would be to buy a Series X now and keep it in the box until a system kernel exploit is found. Sure, that might be years after Microsoft phases it out - but I guarantee you that you'll eventually be able to play these games 100% offline. The sooner you do it, the better odds you are of having a low enough firmware to make this possible the soonest.I have internet, but more importantly, I don't want to have to rely on providers, updates and downloads. So I just connect the old console to the TV and can play the original games - offline. It would have been handy to have one console for all games. If MS decides at some point to stop offering this BC service, you'll look stupid if you relied on it. Worst case scenario, I want to be able to run my TV and console completely offline via power storage / battery / power unit. Times are fragile.
And I don't find xbox games from the past 2 generations that important to have to buy a series x just for them.
You need to double check with a list of release DLC, they’ve all been unlisted.Is there a way to check what DLC I miss etc. without hooking up the x360?
If not, then I need to check what DLCs I missed in the past..
"unless you sail the seas"
Probably only possible with a RGH/JTAG 360?
Came here to say this. Specifically, the two Cybertron games. For the love of everything, give me BC on those.I want all of the transformers games to be backwards compatible, including the movie tie-in games. The RoTF game was really fun.
Call me crazy but I did that with the PS5 at release. Got one for playing and one with day 0 FW sitting around untouched even still in it's shipping package. I can imagine that something like this is already a rarity.I mean - you're obviously familiar with modding consoles, so at this point you're probably well aware that the best option for preservation would be to buy a Series X now and keep it in the box until a system kernel exploit is found. Sure, that might be years after Microsoft phases it out - but I guarantee you that you'll eventually be able to play these games 100% offline. The sooner you do it, the better odds you are of having a low enough firmware to make this possible the soonest.
Better yet - buy two consoles. Play one now, keep the other in the box. Buy and play the games your interested in. Worry about Microsoft shutting everything off later, when you don't really care if they do or don't.