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Xbox CEO Phil Spencer - "We have no plans to bring Xbox Game Pass to PlayStation or Nintendo."
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
Two things...
- Didn't MS themselves say something along the lines that Sony stopped gamepass from being on PlayStation and it was something they were actively trying to do?
- No gamepass on PS? Thats it, I am tossing my PS5.
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HawarMiran
Banned
Sheperd Phil consoles his flock....yet again . When is he actually guiding them to the green pastures of great games?
Topher
Gold Member
No, this is about Game Pass on PS or Nintendo. I don't know that I've seen anyone argue that they believe that is actually going to happen.
Yeah....plenty of speculation over MS going third party, but that's different.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's simple, they're the peasant tier users.
Yeah but then again lots of users in the other thread were correlating the "game pass on other platforms news" directly as some kind of admission that they're going third party.
With this topic and Phil's statements here, that puts a pretty big damper on any of that talk entirely. Since whatever they're gonna do, game pass is an essential part of the gaming division at Xbox going forward.
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Topher
Gold Member
I don't recall that. Only thing I remember was emails going back and forth between Phil Spencer and Tim Sweeney mentioning xCloud on PS and Nintendo.
Horseganador
Member
If Phil says it, it has to be "true" xDD.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Im still saying that. They can't sell hardware to save their lives. What makes you think they'll keep producing hardware that nobody wants?
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
But Adam, game pass is for the peasants.It's simple, they're the peasant tier users.
Yeah but then again lots of users in the other thread were correlating the "game pass on other platforms news" directly as some kind of admission that they're going third party.
With this topic and Phil's statements here, that puts a pretty big damper on any of that talk entirely. Since whatever they're gonna do, game pass is an essential part of the gaming division at Xbox going forward.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sub-peasants even.
Topher
Gold Member
It's simple, they're the peasant tier users.
Yeah but then again lots of users in the other thread were correlating the "game pass on other platforms news" directly as some kind of admission that they're going third party.
With this topic and Phil's statements here, that puts a pretty big damper on any of that talk entirely. Since whatever they're gonna do, game pass is an essential part of the gaming division at Xbox going forward.
Was that thread closed? I can't find it now. What "game pass on other platform news" was being discussed? I thought that thread was just about the CFO talking about first party on PS and Nitnendo.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, it's still there.
Platform - Microsoft Wants Game Pass On PlayStation, Nintendo, And "Every Screen" Possible
"It's a bit of a change of strategy," Microsoft admits. Microsoft wants to bring Xbox Game Pass to PlayStation and Nintendo. Xbox CFO Tim Stuart said during the Wells Fargo TMT Summit this week that the goal is to make first-party games and Game Pass available on "every screen that can play...
I'll give one example here, apparently for some users that Stuart interview left no room for ambiguity about them going third party.
I don't think it's happening barring some severe circumstances like Nadella completely cutting off Xbox cold turkey.
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Woopah
Member
There's potential there, but I would imagine that some of the assurances PS would demand (no day 1 third party games, a cut of every subscription) would make it unattractive for Xbox.
kazuyamishima
Member
Did Phil also confirmed that MS spends more than $1 billion/year on 3rd party content for Gamepass??
Interfectum
Member
I'm curious what their next steps for achievements are.
Topher
Gold Member
No, it's still there.
Platform - Microsoft Wants Game Pass On PlayStation, Nintendo, And "Every Screen" Possible
"It's a bit of a change of strategy," Microsoft admits. Microsoft wants to bring Xbox Game Pass to PlayStation and Nintendo. Xbox CFO Tim Stuart said during the Wells Fargo TMT Summit this week that the goal is to make first-party games and Game Pass available on "every screen that can play...www.neogaf.com
I'll give one example here, apparently for some users that Stuart interview left no room for ambiguity about them going third party.
I don't think it's happening barring some severe circumstances like Nadella completely cutting off Xbox cold turkey.
First party experiences on PlayStation are already a thing with many games due to acquisitions. Not really that big of a leap to suggest MS may go further down that road. It is quite another to suggest this means Game Pass on PS and Nintendo. Phil Spencer is only addressing Game Pass on other platforms here. He isn't talking about more first party games going to PlayStation or Nintendo.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
No, it's still there.
Platform - Microsoft Wants Game Pass On PlayStation, Nintendo, And "Every Screen" Possible
"It's a bit of a change of strategy," Microsoft admits. Microsoft wants to bring Xbox Game Pass to PlayStation and Nintendo. Xbox CFO Tim Stuart said during the Wells Fargo TMT Summit this week that the goal is to make first-party games and Game Pass available on "every screen that can play...
I'll give one example here, apparently for some users that Stuart interview left no room for ambiguity about them going third party.
I don't think it's happening barring some severe circumstances like Nadella completely cutting off Xbox cold turkey.
No room for ambiguity, announcement even closer than we think!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think that specific part is a stretch, we can safely say for a fact that IP's like Minecraft and CoD (till some years) will keep getting multi-platform releases.
But we've also seen cases where they've reigned them in like Indiana Jones.
There hasn't been a single example big enough that shows that they're serious in considering becoming a third party like Sega. Especially considering the leaked roadmap from a few months back had their next-gen hardware roadmap planned out already. So at the very least it isn't happening for the next generation as well. Outside of some *extreme* circumstances.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Ok. They are currently no plans from Mc Donalds to release Big Macs in Burger King stores btw.
Meanwhile...
Remember when some ppl were saying the ABK deal was never compared to Minecraft?
Fun times. Brad Smith said this before the whole Phil/Jim CoD inadequate war of words started.
One of these days Phil and [insert MS exec here] will be on the same page.
Remember when some ppl were saying the ABK deal was never compared to Minecraft?
Fun times. Brad Smith said this before the whole Phil/Jim CoD inadequate war of words started.
One of these days Phil and [insert MS exec here] will be on the same page.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The Xbox division was on the chopping block before. Did you forget?No room for ambiguity, announcement even closer than we think!
mayham2199
Member
The one thing we've learned about Phil this year is how much you can trust what he has to say.
Here's Phil discussing the issue with BG3 not launching on Xbox. As you can see this was never an issue with the hardware it was Larian not properly prioritizing their time and has nothing to do with the system.
www.purexbox.com
"In terms of the two platforms, I want games to launch on both platforms. There are feature differences between the platforms. We have an ability to kind of handle that and how it works. Where teams are going to choose to focus their time and their effort is up to them. We're here to support them and what they want to go do. We want to make sure that games when they're launching on competitive platforms are also launching on Xbox.
So we're going to learn from this experience as well because we don't love that. But I don't think it's something that's a fatal flaw in the system. It's partners prioritizing their time, us listening and being a good partner to them. And you see some amazing games doing great work across S and X. Diablo looks great, Starfield looks great. Forza looks great across both. And I want to make sure console gaming is accessible to more people, and we think the price point of the console is a pretty important part of that."
Here's Phil discussing the issue with BG3 not launching on Xbox. As you can see this was never an issue with the hardware it was Larian not properly prioritizing their time and has nothing to do with the system.
Phil Spencer Gives His Thoughts On Baldur's Gate 3's Xbox Series S Issues
"It's a game I want to see on the platform"
www.purexbox.com
"In terms of the two platforms, I want games to launch on both platforms. There are feature differences between the platforms. We have an ability to kind of handle that and how it works. Where teams are going to choose to focus their time and their effort is up to them. We're here to support them and what they want to go do. We want to make sure that games when they're launching on competitive platforms are also launching on Xbox.
So we're going to learn from this experience as well because we don't love that. But I don't think it's something that's a fatal flaw in the system. It's partners prioritizing their time, us listening and being a good partner to them. And you see some amazing games doing great work across S and X. Diablo looks great, Starfield looks great. Forza looks great across both. And I want to make sure console gaming is accessible to more people, and we think the price point of the console is a pretty important part of that."
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Just like they have no plans for a bunch of shit that ends up happening anyway.
Sushi_Combo
Member
"We have no plans to corner the market" - Philip Spender.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Nah. I’ll play their stuff on game pass when MS acquires them, after this grave mistake.
geary
Member
If he says something, its a lie, if he doesnt, has something to hide….
gothmog
Gold Member
It's not that simple. Satya, Brad Smith, and Amy Hood probably have a lot of thoughts on recouping their investments and where things are going. I guarantee Stuart is dotted (indirect but often more meaningful management relationship) to Hood.He is the CEO, afterall. His words weight more than Stuart, who reports to him.
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jm89
Member
In it's current form of course. Neither nintendo and sony will want to let a trojan horse onto their platform.
Heck even if they neuter the shit out of gamepass for other platforms, i can see sony still telling them to take a hike, unless they actually move away from being a direct competitor in the console space then maybe.
Heck even if they neuter the shit out of gamepass for other platforms, i can see sony still telling them to take a hike, unless they actually move away from being a direct competitor in the console space then maybe.
Mowcno
Member
Phil Spencer - "Just as we think of ROG Ally and Steam Deck as part of the Xbox community, we need to think of the many Nintendo Switch and PlayStation users as part of the Xbox community in the future,"
Tim Stuart CFO - "That means smart TVs, that means mobile devices, that means what we would have thought of as competitors in the past like PlayStation and Nintendo."
Then Phil Spencer after some Xbox users get upset online saying how committed they are to their hardware customers and they have no plans! Honest!
Talk about mixed messages!
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I don't want to hang medals on myself, but it seems that I was quite right in my analysis in the other thread based simply on evidences... It is true that with MS it is difficult to apply 100% logic, but the steps taken, the statements and actions known during the court battle with the FTC and CMA, the movements that Spencer made in the organization chart (Sarah Bond hardware boss) and the leaked roadmaps told you definitively (and unfortunately for some) that Xbox console isn't going away anytime soon. Even less so when MS is now in the best possible situation to support its own console hardware where the vast majority of its most loyal and potential users are still located.
That being said, I think we'll now go back to a few months ago where Spencer lied to the FTC and CMA and wants to make everything exclusive to their ecosystem, desire to end PS, monopoly etc....
That being said, I think we'll now go back to a few months ago where Spencer lied to the FTC and CMA and wants to make everything exclusive to their ecosystem, desire to end PS, monopoly etc....
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ah yes, the corporate lie PR spin of Sony and Nintendo both saying to "GFY."
Moriarty1889
Member
Clean up in aisle 3! Get Phil to clean up this mess from another employee! Poor Phil doing damage control yet again. MS execs don’t even know how to be on the same page anymore.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Devastating news so quickly after the bombshell last week that Big Macs won't be coming to Burger King.