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[Rean no Kiseki]

Nobody said it was a remake man.


Dude did you play her game?

Why would he? it's basically "Coomer-core", a game that got buzz not because of quality but because of "such thick, oh muh dick".
Xenoblade on the other hand is a game made with vision and effort not to sell to doujin porn addicts.

I don’t know, did god of War remasters changed the characters models and entire engine? A typical remaster is increase resolution, cleaning up the visuals and running the game in higher FPS.

FFXHD was a remaster with better textures and new models.

 

[Danjin44]

FFXHD was a remaster with better textures and new models.

Not to level of XC DF, FFXHD was still looked very much PS2 game with higher resolution. This one in other hand using new XC2 engine with entirely new character models.

Why would he? it's basically "Coomer-core", a game that got buzz not because of quality but because of "such thick, oh muh dick".
Xenoblade on the other hand is a game made with vision and effort not to sell to doujin porn addicts.

Actually Atelier Ryza was pretty damn good and it was my first Atelier game.

 

[Wunray]

We can meet in the middle and call it the greatest jrpg ever made.

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Not to level of XC DF, FFXHD was still looked very much PS2 with higher resolution. This one in other hand using new XC2 engine with entirely new character models.

You keep repeating 'new engine, engine, engine!'. Do you realize that even if that was the case, by itself it's meaningless? You can use 10 different engines for a game and still have the same end result. We as gamers/cinsumers don't have any tangible advantage simply by an engine change.

And the the rest is true. FFX HD uses new hd-textured just like Xenoblade DE. The character models aren't wholly new, but be honest, that's because the character models of FFX already were fine, whereas the Wii's Xenoblade's models look atrocious.

If, however, FFX still won't conbince you, what about FF8 Remaster that recently released? Characters were total upgraded. plus hd-textures. Same as Xenoblade DE. Nobody called that a remake and for good reason.

 

[Danjin44]

I’m curious to know what changes they might do with core combat and the UI.

You keep repeating 'new engine, engine, engine!'. Do you realize that even if that was the case, by itself it's meaningless? You can use 10 different engines for a game and still have the same end result. We as gamers/cinsumers don't have any tangible advantage simply by an engine change.

And the the rest is true. FFX HD uses new hd-textured just like Xenoblade DE. The character models aren't wholly new, but be honest, that's because the character models of FFX already were fine, whereas the Wii's Xenoblade's models look atrocious.

If, however, FFX still won't conbince you, what about FF8 Remaster that recently released? Characters were total upgraded. plus hd-textures. Same as Xenoblade DE. Nobody called that a remake and for good reason.

I wouldn’t exactly call Xenoblade DE Remake same way as RE2remake and upcoming FFVIIRemake but I would say this Definitive Edition similar to SotC on PS4.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Actually Atelier Ryza was pretty damn good and it was my first Atelier game.

There's your problem, Atelier used to be a proper RPG not a slice of life anime about cute girls doing cute things with occasional combat and yearly releases that can only point to the amounts of care and development the game had.
Atelier Iris 2 and to an extent Mana Khemia was the last good game Gust made before it's descent into full on Otaku pandering.
For the record i played and still own the Arland and Dusk games.

Play these instead.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Why would he? it's basically "Coomer-core", a game that got buzz not because of quality but because of "such thick, oh muh dick".

Such an ignorant ass post. You'd fit right in here.

What is this garbage design doing in my Atelier game?

No seriously, how are people turned on by this shit? This isn't even attractive anymore! And with Atelier Ryza breaking record sales, am I going to have to deal with perverted fanservice infecting another game series designed for women to the point where they feel alienated!?! Because I'm not...

www.resetera.com

Xenoblade on the other hand is a game made with vision and effort not to sell to doujin porn addicts.

How new are you to JRP...no how new are you to Xeno in general?

Did you even play Xenogears? What is up with you videogame history revisionists and saying coom to fucking anything with a tit?

There's your problem, Atelier used to be a proper RPG not a slice of life anime about cute girls doing cute things with occasional combat and yearly releases that can only point to the amounts of care and development the game had.
Atelier Iris 2 and to an extent Mana Khemia was the last good game Gust made before it's descent into full on Otaku pandering.
For the record i played and still own the Arland and Dusk games.

The last good Atelier was Ayesha so who fucking cares? Are you actually mad the series moved from sticks to full figured women? Pamela has existed since forever so ???

 

[Danjin44]

There's your problem, Atelier used to be a proper RPG not a slice of life anime about cute girls doing cute things with occasional combat and yearly releases that can only point to the amounts of care and development the game had.
Atelier Iris 2 and to an extent Mana Khemia was the last good game Gust made before it's descent into full on Otaku pandering.
For the record i played and still own the Arland and Dusk games.

Even tho I didn’t play other Atelier games, I judge Ryza as its own JRPGthat I happen to play and honestly enjoyed what I played the combat, exploration and crafting was pretty fun. Also I’m sorry just because a JRPG has “anime” art style I get mad over it. Since when it became such bad to like anime artsyle in my games.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Such an ignorant ass post. You'd fit right in here.

What is this garbage design doing in my Atelier game?

No seriously, how are people turned on by this shit? This isn't even attractive anymore! And with Atelier Ryza breaking record sales, am I going to have to deal with perverted fanservice infecting another game series designed for women to the point where they feel alienated!?! Because I'm not...

www.resetera.com

How new are you to JRP...no how new are you to Xeno in general?

Did you even play Xenogears? What is up with you videogame history revisionists and saying coom to fucking anything with a tit?


The last good Atelier was Ayesha so who fucking cares? Are you actually mad the series moved from sticks to full figured women? Pamela has existed since forever so ???

Of course i know Xenogears and Xenosaga and that gif isn't representative of KOS-MOS as she was in Xenosaga.
And I've no problem with the design of Ryza, my problem is with it being the main selling point.
As for Pamela, are you telling me this is her in Ryza?

Fuck me the last time i remember her lookimg like this

Coomers win again i guess.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Even tho I didn’t play other Atelier games, I judge Ryza as its own JRPGthat I happen to play and honestly enjoyed what I played the combat, exploration and crafting was pretty fun. Also I’m sorry just because a JRPG has “anime” art style I get mad over it. Since when it became such bad to like anime artsyle in my games.

Outrage culture. They forget anybody that liked Atelier back in the days were either women labeled as pedophiles.


BTW we had a thread on this. (OLD GAF)

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Even tho I didn’t play other Atelier games, I judge Ryza as its own JRPGthat I happen to play and honestly enjoyed what I played the combat, exploration and crafting was pretty fun. Also I’m sorry just because a JRPG has “anime” art style I get mad over it. Since when it became such bad to like anime artsyle in my games.

Who said i hate anime art style? My GOTY is Trails of Cold Steel III and that's as about as anime as you can get.
Please re-read my post.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Of course i know Xenogears and Xenosaga and that gif isn't representative of KOS-MOS as she was in Xenosaga.
And I've no problem with the design of Ryza, my problem is with it being the main selling point.
As for Pamela, are you telling me this is her in Ryza?

Fuck me the last time i remember her lookimg like this

Coomers win again i guess.

Nope this is Pamela.

I brought up Xeno since said game was far from being PG friendly. Sex scene and fucking your mum's clone were the good old days eh? But that isn't coomer shit since it is a classic! Neither is KOS-MOS! R...right!

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Outrage culture. They forget anybody that liked Atelier back in the days were either women labeled as pedophiles.


BTW we had a thread on this. (OLD GAF)

I remember that thread, i began lurking around that time, i wonders if Amir0x posted in it, THAT would be hilarious.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Who said i hate anime art style? My GOTY is Trails of Cold Steel III and that's as about as anime as you can get.
Please re-read my post.

Eh. Also are you mad Ryza sold because it was marketed towards males?

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Nope this is Pamela.

I brought up Xeno since said game was far from being PG friendly. Sex scene and fucking your mum's clone were the good old days eh? But that isn't coomer shit since it is a classic! Neither is KOS-MOS! R...right!

The Xeno series always had fucked up shit since Gears, again my point stand the designs were not the main selling point.
Again you mistake my intention, JRPGs need to be more than big boobs and ass (or thighs in Ryza case) to actually make me give a shit about them.
Xenoblade 1 had sexy girls, but it wasn't the focus, Xenoblade 2 i still haven't played becauseii don't have a Switch but i'm interested in it even though Homura/Pyra's design does nothing for me, i actually don't find her sexy.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Eh. Also are you mad Ryza sold because it was marketed towards males?

The Legend of Heroes Trails series isn't targeted toward males? News to me when big dick Rean can cuck Joshua and Agate in Sen 4 and everybody's after his ashen dick.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Again you mistake my intention, JRPGs need to be more than big boobs and ass (or thighs in Ryza case) to actually make me give a shit about them.

But the old Atelier games were literally popcorn. There was almost nothing to them. So ???

 

[Danjin44]

Who said i hate anime art style? My GOTY is Trails of Cold Steel III and that's as about as anime as you get.
Please re-read my post.

Then I don’t really see problem with Atelier Ryza’s art style then?

Even original Xenoblade Chronicles you have costumes like this

The only difference here is the character models in original XC is blurry as hell.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Then I don’t really see problem with Atelier Ryza’s art style then?

Even original Xenoblade Chronicles you have costumes like this

The only difference here is the character models in original XC is blurry as hell.

He's saying because of Ryza's marketing he was turned off and is calling it coomer...buzzword or whatever. Despite playing older titles of the same series where it was basically "cute girl goes around finding things" and liking Trails of Anime. Yes, I'm also confused.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Then I don’t really see problem with Atelier Ryza’s art style then?

Even original Xenoblade Chronicles you have costumes like this

The only difference here is the character models in original XC is blurry as hell.

Xenoblade 1 had sexy girls, but it wasn't the focus, Xenoblade 2 i still haven't played becauseii don't have a Switch but i'm interested in it even though Homura/Pyra's design does nothing for me, i actually don't find her sexy.

But the old Atelier games were literally popcorn. There was almost nothing to them. So ???

They were fun.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

They were fun.

Moe yearly title with a good soundtrack. It is the same shit now outside KOEI's dlc cancer. (and lack of anime opening)

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

He's saying because of Ryza's marketing he was turned off and is calling it coomer...buzzword or whatever. Despite playing older titles of the same series where it was basically "cute girl goes around finding things" and liking Trails of Anime. Yes, I'm also confused.

Must've missed when Felt and Viese were doing that in AI2.
Yeah i know the name "Felt" was shit.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Must've missed when Felt and Viese were doing that in AI2.
Yeah i know the name "Felt" was shit.

2005 was 10,000 Ateliers ago.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

2005 was 10,000 Ateliers ago.

Ok here's a title for you Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica, good games with a great soundtrack, battle system AND cute girls, 2>1.
Of course NISA had to fuck it up with the translation of 2 so the fan made patch is a must.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

WTF IS THIS COOMER SHIT?

I never played Ar Tortilla but I have Ar Norsuge somewhere in the outdoor shack. Maybe one day I'll play it.

 

[Danjin44]

WTF IS THIS COOMER SHIT?

I never played Ar Tortilla but I have Ar Norsuge somewhere in the outdoor shack. Maybe one day I'll play it.

Her costume is more revealing than all the casts in Atelier Ryza and FE There Houses put together but this one is not considered “otaku pandering” but those two games are? I don’t understand logic behind it.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Her costume is more revealing than all the casts in Atelier Ryza and FE There Houses put together but this one is not considered “otaku pandering” but those two games are? I don’t understand logic behind it.

He said he was bothered by Ryza's portrayal/advertisement rather than what the game was gonna be about. Or rather as if all Ryza is...is fanservice. (I wish) But I feel like we've been other this already. My COOOMER joke was a just a joke though

 

[Danjin44]

He said he was bothered by Ryza's portrayal/advertisement rather than what the game was gonna be about. Or rather as if all Ryza is...is fanservice. (I wish) But I feel like we've been other this already. My COOOMER joke was a just a joke though

I feel like every time rules just change on me somehow, Xenoblade 2 considered “weeb” but Persona 5 is not. I love both games but I kind of lost or never understood meaning “weeb” to begin with.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

WTF IS THIS COOMER SHIT?

I never played Ar Tortilla but I have Ar Norsuge somewhere in the outdoor shack. Maybe one day I'll play it.

My kind of coomer shit
She's not a main character though and not romanceable.

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

I feel like every time rules just change on me somehow, Xenoblade 2 considered “weeb” but Persona 5 is not. I love both games but I kind of lost or never understood meaning “weeb” to begin with.

Weeb = not mainstream basically.
Yeah Xenoblade 2 got a lot of negative buzz by the usual suspects but it wasn't given an award at TGA or got into Smash.

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Every time I read 'coomer', I cringe :/