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Scarlett Johansson offered lead role in Ghost in the Shell live action film

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Do we have any proof that they could?

Yes. Minorities, which are human beings with the same brains as white people, spend billions on movies starring people of different races. Conversely, Slumdog Millionaire made a ton of cash in the US and England. Is this even a question? Because the more I think about it, holy cow dude
 
Or they'll hit you over the head with the themes so hard that all subtlety is gone.

Can't wait till we get a "We truly are just ghosts in a shell" line at an opportune moment to drive the point home, even though the closest any of the incarnations has gotten to that is The Major following her gut/intuition with her classic "My ghost whispered it..." line
 

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I think she would be cool as a Makoto but at the same time whitewashing a Japanese series is never a good idea. <_<;

It would be funny if they just threw in Rinko Kikuchi though. She was in Pacific Rim, Babel, and 47 Ronin.
 

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That list isnt helping though. Only one japanese person and her english isnt perfect.

Plus, she's only on there because Pacific Rim. If not for GDT, there'd be no Japanese actresses on that list. And we're casting ScarJo. It's sickening.
 

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Why couldn't it be the Wachowskis.
That wouldn't help the white-washing problem though (;
 

Akahige

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Rupert Sanders is visually a good director, don't have any problem with him directing this but the constant whitewashing in Hollywood movies is just sad.

Yeah I know the movie could be new take and blah blah blah, but is Hollywood still racist.
 

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Yes. Minorities, which are human beings with the same brains as white people, spend billions on movies starring people of different races. Conversely, Slumdog Millionaire made a ton of cash in the US and England. Is this even a question? Because the more I think about it, holy cow dude

you dont have to get so offended, I thought we were talking about american audiences which are mostly white, black and latino. slumdog made 141 million in america and was a cultural phenomenon for a bit but im asking for some more information here
 

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Did people expect Hollywood to get an Asian lead for this? Not being facetious here either. When I read the title I thought OK, I'd like to see a GitS live action film and of course they'll go after someone like her.

Now I'm reading through and the outrage is off putting. Like this isn't Hollywood we're talking about here.
 
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Is this another "White people can't relate to other cultures so everything has to be whitewashed" excuse? Because I'm getting sick of it and have yet to see any actual proof aside from the ever notorious "screen testing results"
How about its a 30 year old cartoon no one but you has ever heard of and nobody is making risky films these days.

Ghost in the Shell already exists. This is merely the hollow pig-mask version.
 
Did people expect Hollywood to get an Asian lead for this? Not being facetious here either. When I read the title I thought OK, I'd like to see a GitS live action film and of course they'll go after someone like her.

Now I'm reading through and the outrage is off putting. Like this isn't Hollywood we're talking about here.
It being a norm that Hollywood is racist doesn't make it any less depressing
 

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Nope, needs a tall athletic woman. Asian or not doesn't matter. The series has never been about Japan, so it could be set anywhere, and whatever race doesn't matter. Her name doesn't have to be Mokoto either.

The thing is, Mokoto has a very stoic personality, so I don't think this movie can work as a mainstream Hollywood movie. I can't imagine anyone making a good adaptation of this. Akira or Evangelion would be possible, but not this.
 

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Well if this movie is going to happen and they aren't going to cast an asian, I would rather it be Scarlett Johansson. At least she can play the role properly...
 
Is this another "White people can't relate to other cultures so everything has to be whitewashed" excuse? Because I'm getting sick of it and have yet to see any actual proof assign from the ever notorious "screen testing results"
Im saying this is how Hollywood does it.

They sit down and say "hey nobody is going to relate to this stuff going on in Japan"
"Lets change it to NY or LA so Americans can invest"
"OK so now we have this whole team of Asian-Americans, that doesn't really work/make sense"
"Alright as the MC Motoko needs the widest appeal, she will be white and needs a name actor"
"Now lets get some African-Americans in there, Chief & Batou can fit the archetype!"
"Togusa will be a young hearthrob who has relationship potential with Motoko!"
"Ok thats all the characters that really matter but it seems weird with all the remaining characters Asian, mix them up a bit more"

And suddenly you have maybe 1 Japanese character left in the movie.
 

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Nope, needs a tall athletic woman. Asian or not doesn't matter. The series has never been about Japan, so it could be set anywhere, and whatever race doesn't matter. Her name doesn't have to be Mokoto either.

The thing is, Mokoto has a very stoic personality, so I don't think this movie can work as a mainstream Hollywood movie. I can't imagine anyone making a good adaptation of this. Akira or Evangelion would be possible, but not this.

All of that depends on what version this is based on, actually.
 

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It being a norm that Hollywood is racist doesn't make it any less depressing

ScarJo's going to get this movie to sell and GitS isn't mainstream anymore. I know it's easy to throw this into the pile of whitewashed roles but Maggie Q won't bring people to the theater here like Scarlett, especially after Lucy.
 

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All of that depends on what version this is based on, actually.

I am only familiar with the original movie and the Stand Alone Complex series.

Actually, to make it work Batou would have to be the lead. Then I think it would be fine, because you could keep Motoko's emotionless personality. Batou needs a bit more humour to his character though, mainly directed at Motoko, so as to keep the audience on his side and justify Motoko's remoteness to us, her almost alien-character. If they make Motoko the lead, the movie is DOA.

Really, the 95 movie has the best base plot for an adaptation.


Oh yeah, good choice!
 
ScarJo's going to get this movie to sell and GitS isn't mainstream anymore. I know it's easy to throw this into the pile of whitewashed roles but Maggie Q won't bring people to the theater here like Scarlett, especially after Lucy.

A GOOD movie will bring people to the theaters. Are people forgetting Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon? I doubt many people in the US knew ANY of the actors and it was fucking subtitled yet it was hugely successful despite that.

A well realized GiTS, playing off as being this generations Matrix (where none of the actors were that big really), ignoring the irony, could definitely work
 

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ScarJo's going to get this movie to sell and GitS isn't mainstream anymore. I know it's easy to throw this into the pile of whitewashed roles but Maggie Q won't bring people to the theater here like Scarlett, especially after Lucy.
Thus begins the cycle
 

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Nope, needs a tall athletic woman. Asian or not doesn't matter. The series has never been about Japan, so it could be set anywhere, and whatever race doesn't matter. Her name doesn't have to be Mokoto either.

Not that the movie will cover this ground anyway, but SAC is completely about Japanese politics and society.
 

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A GOOD movie will bring people to the theaters. Are people forgetting Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon? I doubt many people in the US knew ANY of the actors and it was fucking subtitlted yet it was hugely successful despite that.

A well realized GiTS, playing off as being this generations Matrix (where non of thr actors were that big really), ig oring thr irony, could definitely work

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All I see is another Aeon Flux happening. I hope you're right though.
 
ScarJo's going to get this movie to sell and GitS isn't mainstream anymore. I know it's easy to throw this into the pile of whitewashed roles but Maggie Q won't bring people to the theater here like Scarlett, especially after Lucy.
Should I be happy that scarlett johanssen is going to make a bastardized version of gits sell?

It's easy to throw this on the whitewashed pile because thats what it is and always will be

Everything is manufactured in hollywood. The propopgation of the status quo is on sleazy execs. Minority actors and actresses won't bring an audience because they don't ever get the chance to begin with. having leading roles for even ones that are made for them being taken by white dudes and dudedettes, it's hilarious
 

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Not that the movie will cover this ground anyway, but SAC is completely about Japanese politics and society.

It's not something that you couldn't transpose to other countries at all. It's about politics, it just happens to be in Japan, it's in no way core to the story.
 
On the topic of Ghost in the Shell, is the recent blu ray release of the original, or that ugly 2.0 shit?


I've still got my Special Edition dvd, but would upgrade.
 
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