It's definitely an inherent part of what makes MK what it is.
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Fighting Games Weekly | Apr 13-19 | This Netkode Is An Injustice
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lol i used to have this.
petran79
Banned
3/10 for Death Cargo is much too high!
1/10 and you're doing them a favour for accepting to review such a game in a popular site
What I understood from the comments, is that some readers were confused since you rated the animation system of MKX as a 3D game, while the animation system of GGXrd as a 2D game. So they think that one is inferior to the other, while they're completely different. That video game relativism is toxic!
"God's Beard!"
Member
Then why is everyone's stance that slightly feral but breathing heavily wiggle? Look, I play Virtua Fighter and that's a martial arts-styled fighter where every single character's silhouette would be immediately apparent by their stance. I have real trouble telling MK characters apart by their normal moves and chains.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Shao, what do you mean by arcade style? You mean exaggerated or stylized?
I agree with Beard on this one.
I agree with Beard on this one.
Thomasorus
Member
Death Cargo was playable! 1/10 is for games that barely work, 2/10 for really, really shitty games. 3/10 is for games that are playable but shit anyway.
Some are talking about the animation but that's not really the problem. The real one is that some vocal and followed players in France are culturally biased into thinking that Japan > anything else. There was a time when some of them where shitting on MVC3 because that was "a game made for US players" so it could not be good as japanese players were not going to play it. You see the mentality?
The 7/10 for Xrd was like blasphemy in this situation as it was Guilty Gear and it was more anime than before so that could be only good in their eyes. But that's just stupid. Players that are now angry at me were guys taking Hokuto no Ken seriously back in the day. And they think MK is a game that does not deserve to be played. I mean... what do you want to do with these guys?
Oh god, it loops perfectly.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";160760326]Then why is everyone's stance that slightly feral but breathing heavily wiggle? Look, I play Virtua Fighter and that's a martial arts-styled fighter where every single character's silhouette would be immediately apparent by their stance. I have real trouble telling MK characters apart by their normal moves and chains.[/QUOTE]
I am pretty confident if we could compare the fighting stances and moves of a MKX character and a Virtua Fighter 5 character the majority of people would say they can tell the MKX characters apart easier. That's just a hunch though.
I am pretty confident if we could compare the fighting stances and moves of a MKX character and a Virtua Fighter 5 character the majority of people would say they can tell the MKX characters apart easier. That's just a hunch though.
sixteen-bit
Member
You had options.
CPSF has a Sanwa JLF lever and microswitched buttons. Great stick for the time.
Champion Joystick with Happ parts was the alternative if you prefered American style.
I am up to this challenge. I think the two most similar stances are wolf and goh. but even those are worlds apart.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Karsticles
Member
Does T7 still have rage?
Osu 16 Bit
Member
You are a Virtua Fighter fan though.
I mean, half the MKX cast uses weapons. come on now.
Says the guy who worked on MKX
Professor Beef
Banned
MK has brand value.
Rage gives you access to rage arts (supers), but no longer gives a damage boost.
Karsticles
Member
Let's all argue about which of these fighting games with mostly-the-same characters has characters that are more alike. Then go back to Street Fighter.
Ah, so it's more like Ultras and other desperation attacks, then. Can the rage arts be combod into?
Please do, it would go viral lol
That and not censoring yourself, if you want sponsors, gotta clean it up. This should be a lesson for ants trying to take on bigger things.
EGM from '94
I wonder what their GAF handle is.
Even in the 90's people were complaining about Capcom lol
Wow some french players are accusing me of corruption because I gave MKX a 8/10 and GGXrd a 7/10. They are posting parts of my Xrd review in the comments of my MKX review to prove me I'm... I don't know? Having bad taste? Corrupted? Where's that NRS money I'm supposed to have by the way?
French players are japanese suckers beyond reason (DON'T YOU DARE CRITICIZE AN ANIME GAME OR SHONEN SHIT) but it's quite tiresome to have to deal with a backlash each time you review a game because you dare having some criticism. There's a guy I travelled through Europe with to play GGXX, he came to my house on vacation several times and now he acts as if he didn't knew me and goes nuts each time I post.
I'm quite jealous about the US FGC for it's open mind about different types of games.
The standard is set so low its almost appalling.
Brand value that existed a long time ago and is just a hollow shell of what it is in my opinion. I wanna like to the game but god damn it isn't reminiscent of the older MK games on the SNES, in my opinion of course.
It was the same in Australia when I was going to tournaments. A new game was immediately thought of as something that would split the community, take up setups, take up physical space etc, and people would immediately campaign for it to be considered shit and not worth playing. Basically everyone was Ricky Ortiz.
direct_quote
Member
I'm surprised someone else feels the same way I do about the new MK. Just doesn't feel as appealing as the older games, and I was a huge fan of MK back in the day. Instead looks like a 2d version of Tekken with MK paint on it..
SquirrelSoup
Member
Yes, but damage scaling right now doesn't seem to make it a very valuable proposition.
FormallyFamicom
Member
Yes, but currently the scaling on them is so heavy that it's barely worth it to use them in combos.
twozerotwo
Member
Jesus Christ.
I Plasti-Dipped my plexi and it smells like chemical bananas in my living room/kitchen.
I should've done this shit outside.
I Plasti-Dipped my plexi and it smells like chemical bananas in my living room/kitchen.
I should've done this shit outside.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
So like all other fighting games.
WesternHeretic
Member
Yea but you know what? In 94 we could of went to the arcade and play for a lot cheaper (If you didn't lose...)
We're in the minority quote. I loved the older MK games and trying to figure out the inputs for the fatalities. Favorite one was babality lol
I don't know, SF games tend to break the mold and add in new stuff and new art style in each iteration like SF1 to SF2 with meter, SF2 to SF3 with parrying and SF3 to SF4 with focus attacks and FADC's. However, each game maintained its integrity as a series. I guess its in the detail of how the characters move which I find Capcom being excellent at doing. MK just feels like a cluttered mess, each time I hit someone, it feels like I'm punching/slashing into a wall for every hit that I get. Hell, the older MK games felt like you were actually hitting an actual character. The one thing I'll give MKX are the fatalities cause damn, its the first time I wasn't able to stomach them.
Karsticles
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";160767781]Ryu
Ken
Sakura
Dan
Sean
Akuma
Evil Ryu[/QUOTE]
That was my point.
Ken
Sakura
Dan
Sean
Akuma
Evil Ryu[/QUOTE]
That was my point.
Thomasorus
Member
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Wow some french players are accusing me of corruption because I gave MKX a 8/10 and GGXrd a 7/10. They are posting parts of my Xrd review in the comments of my MKX review to prove me I'm... I don't know? Having bad taste? Corrupted? Where's that NRS money I'm supposed to have by the way?
French players are japanese suckers beyond reason (DON'T YOU DARE CRITICIZE AN ANIME GAME OR SHONEN SHIT) but it's quite tiresome to have to deal with a backlash each time you review a game because you dare having some criticism. There's a guy I travelled through Europe with to play GGXX, he came to my house on vacation several times and now he acts as if he didn't knew me and goes nuts each time I post.
I'm quite jealous about the US FGC for it's open mind about different types of games.
There's quite a bit of history between France and Japan which goes far beyond videogames.
Your country was already craving anime in the early 70's and you embraced Dragonball a couple of years earlier than us in NA. Even around 1870, french painters were strongly inspired by japanese art and culture (the term used to describe the phenomenon is japonism). In some ways, MK X is on par with most well known japanese FG and also a notch below in some ways. Like GB said, it's still weird as fuck to see a character jumping in the air and having his momentum stopped when he connect with a kick. I am not a fan of the dial-up combo system or the weak normals, but it's a "trademark" of the series at this point.
Not to mention this is less apparent in MKX than any other fighting game save for SSB.
irfaanator
Banned
mkx if fun. ill drop money on it when it goes down in price. i actually should be getting 25 back from the vita fiasco thingy so maybe ill get it when i get that money
First fighting game since SF4 vanilla I've truly had a blast with learning.
Its mechanics make me feel like I'm back to learning SF for the first time, which for me was vanilla, and it's great.
Game is super deep. It'll be interesting to see it at high level play at Evo this year. I feel like every match will be worth watching whereas SF4 now I just care about top 32.
CountBlack
Member
basically: Game looks really good, plays really bad.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I want to play MKX but unless they fix the netcode I'm gonna pass. Buttcheeks netcode was pretty much the only reason I didn't play much MK9.
I think MK9 is still worth getting as a single player game, especially now that its so cheap for the komplete edition. Way more fun than I was expecting.
Scrub Mcgrubb
Member
So there's no official ESL stream for MKX? I see Art is streaming his match on his channel... I thought this was going to be a big E-sports thing?
Scrub Mcgrubb
Member
... and Art just choked and is out of the tournie... single elim. WHOMP WHOMP
Thomasorus
Member
There's quite a bit of history between France and Japan which goes far beyond videogames.
In some ways, MK X is on par with most well known japanese FG and also a notch below in some ways. Like GB said, it's still weird as fuck to see a character jumping in the air and having his momentum stopped when he connect with a kick. I am not a fan of the dial-up combo system or the weak normals, but it's a "trademark" of the series at this point.
Yup I know about all this since I studied art (I remember going to a japonism expo in Paris that was great!) but the thing is these people aren't that fan of japanese Culture, they basically grew up with Club Dorothée et never evolved, staying 15 years old in their brain with Saint Seiya and DBZ as the greatest invention ever made. I already explained it but Redbull Kumite having anime openings as entrance is exactly the consequence of this: a guy in his thirties organizing a tournament for Redbull sees anime songs in his repertoire as the thing to use without giving it a second though. :|
I don't think AC+R is still played at this point, most of the players went on Xrd. The online was bad for most people but I was able to play it as offline with a specific friend that also had a very strong cable connection.