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Ronda Rousey wants to be cast as Captain Marvel, Kevin Smith and Thanos Agree.
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I assume many MCU fans have never read the comics the movies were based on. Or follow any book.
I didn't say all MCU fans, just pointing it out there.
Well, his first job was in a feature film so if we're going the 'before all that' route he was a film actor first THEN a TV actor.
But my point is that he was never one or the other. Dude was acting in films like Moneyball at the same time as he was in Parks and Recs. He was balancing both TV and film, until GOTG sent him supernova.
Clinton514
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No. What`s she getting all this hype for these days
Are you seriously asking this
timetokill
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Because she can beat the shit out of pretty much any other woman in less than a minute. Probably most men, too.
Mr. Pointy
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This. I'm batting for Emily Blunt, but she might be too old for the timeframes a Marvel contract can lock someone down.
Maybe Brie Larson?
I don't know how old Carol is. Or how Marvel want to portray her in film..
Well, that whole movie is terrible, even by the ultra low standards of that series. She was probably the best thing in it honestly, if only because she got like 30 seconds of non-shooting, armbar action in there (as, IIRC, Couture did back in Expendables 1).
That's not really a defense of her as an actress or anything, just to point out that no one in that movie looks good in terms of acting ability, even the professional actors. It just ain't that kind of movie.
Always thought it was some sort of dumb ongoing joke from that whatever show Community. If it was meant to be a joke, boy did it get old a long ass time ago.
gutter_trash
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GSP wasn't even able to mimick a Parisian accent or a standar French accent when speaking in his native French.
That is lousy acting.
It's like Kevin Costner playing Robin Hood unable to mimic an English accent
Finaika
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Captain Marvel is not known for her looks.
Angelus Errare
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Emily Blunt is the only logical choice guys.
Nappuccino
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I have to agree. As much as I'd love to see Rousey do things other than UFC, acting school might be the right first step.
Emily Blunt, however, has got it all.
Finaika
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Is she even blonde?
Batista was already an actor in the WWE.
tkscz
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Doesn't mean he had good range in his acting ability. When he was chosen he immediately got himself an acting coach. So if she can do the same thing, then I'd be ok with her being Carol.
bobawesome
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He'll always have Chasing Amy and the first Clerks.
Anton Sugar
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There are...ways...to get around this.
Absolutely this.
For me, the biggest test an actress in an action film cast as a heroine has to withstand is that of credulity. If I can't "buy" the character being a bad-ass, like Uma Thurman as the Bride in Kill Bill, then the whole thing falls apart. With Ronda, there's no question. She's believable. I like Emily Blunt too, a lot, but Ronda looks the part and is three years younger. She can learn how to act well enough for a comic book movie and she's only going to get better with time.
Let's not have another Scarlett Johansson stinking up the MCU. Give us a ass-kicking superheroine we can root for.
Batista didn't have to carry the movie by himself.
Not a knock on him, as his performance worked very well in the ensemble and he got the most laughs out of me, but it wasn't exactly dynamic. He will likely improve, but he does have background in performance that Rousey doesn't. After seeing Expendables 3, I'm not convinced anything short of divine intervention will help her act.
I'm also confused as to why anyone would think Captain Marvel of all things only needs a tough woman for action scenes with actual acting talent as a secondary concern.
Because the MCU is lacking on the superheroine front? It is, in a big way.
Anton Sugar
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This kind of thinking would have led to some shitty, shitty MCU movies, and I say this as someone who thinks these movies sometimes waste their actors.
Yes it is. Which is why Rousey would be an awful choice. They need someone with the acting talent to carry a tentpole film, so we don't wind up with another Elektra or Catwoman, not just looking the part or being good at action.
The Broken Ska Record
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The difference being that Carol would be the only main character while Draxx was a supporting character.
Anton Sugar
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The fights/action in Haywire were by far the best part of the movie, and that's due to Carano's physicality/fighting ability AND how they were shot.
However, that didn't make Haywire a great movie, nor did it make her character memorable. I don't even remember the character's name and I liked Haywire.
However, that didn't make Haywire a great movie, nor did it make her character memorable. I don't even remember the character's name and I liked Haywire.
This is where I'm confused. I don't know where that idea is coming from, because she isn't. If it's about an actress just being able to do action, then any actress can be trained to do action scenes.
I think that's unfair. Both Elektra and Catwoman had experienced, good actresses. Those two movies sucked and bombed for a lot of reasons, the actors and actresses being the least one.
Exactly there are whole industries designed to make people look cool.
the actors for that movie was the least of the problems. With the exception of Fantastic Four we are past bullshit like that
superdeluxe
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This. Carol is not a Hulk, Thor or even a Cap. You don't need someone that has a large physical presence that can look like they can man handle anyone.
Wrong. Johansson sucks in the MCU movies despite having access to what I assume are top-tier choreographers and trainers.
Hollywood has got to up their casting game when it comes to female superheroes. Captain Marvel has super strength. To some degree she's a bruiser. You need an actress who can at least look physically capable. Not as much as Wonder Woman (who is absolutely a bruiser and her casting is a travesty!) but to some degree.
my name is ed
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That's an impressive level of acting talent misjudgement haha wow
Captain Marvel? A bruiser? Please, when does she ever...
... Oh yeah. All the dang time. Yeah, she's definitely in "bruiser" territory.
A lot of the action they have Johansson doing is pretty stupid to be fair. If they don't choreograph anything brutal and awesome for her to do, she doesn't get to do it. I'm sure she could.
What the Widow really needs is a proper knock-down, drag-out martial arts battle to the death with someone she can't just put down in 30 seconds. Steve had several in Winter Soldier, but even in that movie of fairly good choreography, Widow mostly just got to pounce on people and shoot guns.
But at any rate, you don't have to be a trained martial artist to sell fight choreography. Truth be told, given how fight choreography works, we'd be better off trying to find a professional dancer than a professional fighter.
Just look at Gal Gadot. Some CGI and stunt doubles and bam, Wonder Woman.
My apologies, I was referring to how those movies killed the idea of a female-led superhero franchise for awhile. They are both indeed fine actresses (though Garner I felt was miscast regardless).
I'm not a fan of Johansson as Widow really (though I liked her a lot in Winter Soldier, but only in WS), but that's always been due to her acting. What is it that you don't like about her stunt or action work? More often than not it's likely a double anyways when it comes to the crazy flips, so I don't quite get the criticism on that.
Again, it's more vital that Carol Danvers is able to act than to look like she could armbar someone. Regardless of appearance of toughness, if the acting is serviceable at best or bad at worst, nobody's going to take that character seriously. Bad acting is distracting.
Ganzlinger
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I have nothing against her but I don't find her attractive. But what should matter is her acting skills.
We all know it should have been Hogan
She wins. A lot. Quickly and efficiently.
And she says less morally reprehensible things than her peers, so it's easy to scrub her name clean in the press and make her a media darling.
In what universe is this true? Are you talking about the same Ronda Rousey who goes around claiming the parents of the kids murdered in Sandy Hook are liars and it was all a cover-up by Obama to take people's guns away?
She has said some HORRIBLE things that there is no coming back from. Enough that Disney would never wan't be associated with her to this major degree.
I mean look at the AMA she attempted to do a few months back that got instantly derailed with constant questions about her calling the parents of the Sandy Hook victims liars. It'd take a lot to come back from the stuff she has said. Too much for a family friendly brand like the MCU.
She can also absorb the energy of a star, where can I find an actress that looks like she can do that?
Less. She says LESS reprehensible things. In volume.
She hasn't said that any of her peers should have their families commit suicide yet. She hasn't said that all gay people should be cleansed from the earth. She hasn't said that Donald Trump is right in wanting to deport "non americans". Other people said that. Said those things this week in fact.
She says LESS reprehensible things, to which I have to remind others that people who make their living beating people into bloody pulps usually have a pretty skewed sense of social behaviors. But yes, Rousey sticks her foot in her mouth about 80% less often than the average MMA fighter or professional boxer, which makes her more openly marketable to other people, especially when most of those people don't even watch her fights.
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