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UFC 205 at MSG |OT| Conor McGregor vs Eddie Alvarez | Who Da Fook Are These Guys

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McGregor is never gonna defend the 145, is he? I am curious if Dana will actually make him drop it or just leave it on him.

But then again...

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Chumley

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The Conor haters have no credibility now though, for real. They were SURE Eddie would make a fool out of him because he's "never faced a real fighter at 145/155 till him".

And he made Eddie look like a bum fighting for the first time.

Cannot wait to see Chael Sonnen defend yet another one of his absolutely dumbass predictions.
 
Still wondering wtf Alvarez was thinking.

He got rocked early, and frankly like Joe said, when dudes get hit by McGregor they actually seem shocked, like they aren't used to that sort of power. You can see it in almost all of his fights other than Diaz. When they take those first punches they suddenly realize, oh shit this is real.

I think that massively threw Eddie off, and so did Conor shrugging off his takedown attempts. Frankly Eddie just had nothing for him

Damn, jumped back on the Conor boat with the quickness.

I only left for like a second but this reassured me. Feel free to read my fight analysis back on pages 1 and 2.
 

The Beard

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It's still such a mindfuck that he's never defended his Featherweight title from 2015.

Dec 2015. Who even deserved a title shot in that time? Instant rematch for the guy that got KO'd in 13 seconds? Frankie, who recently got destroyed by Aldo? He should have to defend it for his next fight or give it up though.
 

Agent Icebeezy

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Not just that but he had a ridiculous reach advantage in this matchup. He took a page from rigondeaux and nullified Alvarez' jab with his right hand. In boxing the jab is the most important punch as it sets everything else up. It is also used as a defense in order to close the gap.

Conor constantly tapping Alvarez' jab hand he never allowed him to get too close and left him open with his ridiculous range to set up his left crosses.

I know.

Watch how he paws the jab about Canelo

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Then catches him with the right.

Watch him throw a half-hearted jab to get Guerrero to commit

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Then the right struck him almost instantaneously.

Conor is a natural counter puncher and if people are willing to stand in front him, we we continue to see the same result because he understands distance better than his opponent. The tapping of the jab is also a measurement of distance. Conor is smart and currently, I don't know if the current pool of MMA fighters around him can match up if they can't get him to the ground.
 

Ithil

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I just realized that Weidman got knocked out and horribly bloodied on both shows where Conor won a UFC title. He should keep well away from Conor in future, he's bad luck or something.
 

sirap

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Eddie has always relied on brute force when it came to clinches and takedowns. It's just surprising how ineffective they were against Conor @_@
 
Dana just let Conor hold the LW title for a year so that he can take money fights at 155 and 170. It's clear Dana is fine making matchups based on PPV buys rather than what's "fair". They'd have no qualms about leapfrogging Nate over Khabib for the title shot if they thought that's what would make the most money and if it's what Conor wants. This is sports entertainment.
 
The only threats to Conor in the UFC at his weights imo are Ferguson and Khabib. I favor McGregor in both those match ups, but those are dudes that at least have a shot at doing it

New threats, sure. But Nate still has Conor's number. The second fight was extremely close, and if Nate was really injured going into it, then I see him winning that fight at 155, which is where he's at home. He just needs to work on his wrestling and checking kicks. He showed tremendous adaptability to Conor's reads but shit, he needs to approach that fight the same way Conor did with a long and dedicated camp.

I think Ferguson is an even worse threat than Nate due to his crazy style, movement, wrestling and kicks.

Khabib though, man, Khabib is a monster on the ground, but he exposed some seriously holes in his stand up game.
 

BadAss2961

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The only threats to Conor in the UFC at his weights imo are Ferguson and Khabib. I favor McGregor in both those match ups, but those are dudes that at least have a shot at doing it
I think they have more than a shot. Ferguson is a better Diaz. Khabib is a monster grappler who demoralizes people and eats them when he takes them down.

People are on the high of Conor just dominating Eddie, but remember, we both expected this outcome (I think it was you earlier in the thread.) Eddie was the perfect matchup for him to get the lightweight strap -- he's almost liike fighting another Featherweight.
 

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Realistically, at this point, how much bank would the Diaz trilogy make? Like, biggest buy ever or what?
 

Oscar

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Lando Vanatta dropped Ferguson a bunch ... pretty sure Conor would too. Let Tony fight Khabib and then they get Conor.
I doubt the UFC would pair Conor with a nightmare matchup like khabib. WME-IMG is gonna take calculated risks like tonight.

Ferguson is a safer risk than Khabib. Unfair for Khabib, but that's show business. Rankings don't mean shit.
 

3N16MA

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Dana just let Conor hold the LW title for a year so that he can take money fights at 155 and 170. It's clear Dana is fine making matchups based on PPV buys rather than what's "fair". They'd have no qualms about leapfrogging Nate over Khabib for the title shot if they thought that's what would make the most money and if it's what Conor wants. This is sports entertainment.

I don't think anyone would be shocked by that. Conor wants Nate at 155 and called for it after the 2nd fight.

What is fair is taking a back seat to what makes money.
 
Thought Eddie would win, but god damn what a performance. I want Connor to fight Nate, Khabib at 155 and Aldo or Max, but idk if he would drop back down to 145 again. Nor would I want to see him at 170.
 

MG310

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Bisping on FS1 just now about Yoel - "When he cheats he acts like he can't speak English, but now he can speak perfect English"
 
Looking at the highlights, Diaz ate shots that floored Alvarez.

Granite chin.

It helps that with his reach advantage he often had Conor working harder to land those punches as well.

You absolutely cannot charge in on Conor early on. It felt like Eddie had zero game plan, like not enough circling, leg kicks, etc. He win and got fucked for it every time.

Bisping on FS1 just now about Yoel - "When he cheats he acts like he can't speak English, but now he can speak perfect English"

"Perfect"

That mumbled shit talk had me dying. I LUH YOU!
 

Eanan

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Why are people talking about frankie? He would pose no threat to Conor

Same thing after every Conor fight.

The haters spout about how a certain fighter would "demolish" or "wrestlefuck" Conor, until he beats them, they make excuses, pick a new fighter and rinse and repeat.
 

The Beard

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It will make a lot, but I think they waited too long. Probably not as much money as Diaz II.

Wut?

It was only 3 months ago. As a Conor fan, I don't know if I ever want to see Conor vs. Diaz again tbh. I was a nervous wreck last fight. Diaz's chin and cardio are too damn good.
 

MG310

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They blurred the middle fingers on the FS1 replay but made sure to include Bisping injecting the needle into his ass at the end.
 

Macattk15

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Is Conor really this good where he makes his opponents look like theyre not even trying or what? Alvarez looks like he wanted to fall at every chance he got. Or is it just the slow-mo effect?

Look at Eddie's eyes ... those were legit "knocked into the shadow realm" shots. He didn't want to fall lol ..... Conor fucking ROCKED him.
 
Why are people talking about frankie? He would pose no threat to Conor

People still assume Conor is the same fighter that got manhandled by Chad Mendes - who is a phenomenal wrestler with some freakish strength, but that's simply not accurate at this point. Conor has made some tremendous strides, he still won't be able to hang with wrestlers over whom he doesn't have the size advantage, but if he can take them out standing, that won't matter.

Conor is a different dude at 145 though, so maybe Frankie could crack him. I still have no doubt Aldo would probably wreck him at 145 and 155, but Frankie is arguably undersized for 145 so who knows.
 

dlauv

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Wut?

It was only 3 months ago. As a Conor fan, I don't know if I ever want to see Conor vs. Diaz again tbh. I was a nervous wreck last fight. Diaz's chin and cardio are too damn good.

Yes, but the fight wouldn't happen tomorrow. Conor wants time off and there's less mystery aka less hype surrounding the match-up. Last time it was a five-round near-draw. How do you sell the follow-up to that? "Best 2/3, let's go." It would be a title match, so I guess it has that going for it.
 
Is Conor really this good where he makes his opponents look like theyre not even trying or what? Alvarez looks like he wanted to fall at every chance he got. Or is it just the slow-mo effect?

He has pin point accuracy. In a sport where most guys' (even the good ones) standup is fairly sloppy that's a huge advantage.
 

The Beard

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Is Conor really this good where he makes his opponents look like theyre not even trying or what? Alvarez looks like he wanted to fall at every chance he got. Or is it just the slow-mo effect?

It's just the slow-mo. After that first knockdown though, Eddie already looked defeated, and it was early.
 
Is Conor really this good where he makes his opponents look like theyre not even trying or what? Alvarez looks like he wanted to fall at every chance he got

He had Alvarez seriously hurt and demoralized at that point. Try that shit on someone who you've gone even with (like Nate) and you're asking for trouble.

I'm sure we'll eventually see opponents give him trouble, it's never just a matter of who is "better", it's what options does a fighter have and what solutions does the other fighter bring to them, and vice versa. It's possible that someone who beats Conor could lose to someone Conor has clowned on, fighting is weird like that.
 
Why are people talking about frankie? He would pose no threat to Conor
Because people have been chirping for over a year about how Frankie would be a nightmare matchup for Conor. Or that Conor didn't want to defend his 145 belt against Frankie and was a ducking him.

Meanwhile Frankie looked like 2 weight classes smaller than Stephens tonight.
 
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