That's why Hiei has a good record and Vegeta doesn't, Hiei will do anything to get that W for the squad. That's why the whole squad has a good record, they do it for the squad and not their egos.
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Is there a cocky character with a worse fight record than Vegeta?
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That's why Hiei has a good record and Vegeta doesn't, Hiei will do anything to get that W for the squad. That's why the whole squad has a good record, they do it for the squad and not their egos.
Hiei actually loses less than Yusuke throughout the series
It's pretty eyeroll worthy, but what do you expect from a series that trumpets a massive buffoon as its main hero.
Chie Satonaka
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Nah. Most of the Prosecutors are legitimate legends, it's just that Mia, Phoenix and his proteges are demigods of the law.
Hiei has 3 losses: Yusuke, Sensui, Mokuro
Yusuke has 2 losses: Sensui, Yomi
The Jiin loss doesn't count since it was a fixed fight.
look man, if you wanna make a Saint Seiya thread, go right ahead.
NipplesAndToes23
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Doesn't he only have one loss and that against his first fight with Yusuke right?
IDK if I'd count Sensui as an L for Hiei.
Hiei, Kurama and Kuwabara accepted their loss shortly before Yusuke returned. And if you didn't count Sensui, then you can't count it against Yusuke either.
I mean, he didn't get the W.
Joey rarely legitimately loses, unlike bitch ass 'stand on a ledge I dare you to blow me off' Kaiba
Yusuke loses to Raizen too.
I wouldn't count it as a win, but Yusuke literally dies against Sensui.
flintstryker
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Shishio's no coward brah, he was fighting with a huge disadvantage as well so I can't fault him for what he did
His whole shtick is "only the strong should survive ggrarrrr!" yet he's a total coward
He forces all his enemies to go through the gauntlet so they would be completely fatigued by the time they reach him while also having his wife relay to him all their fighting techniques.
And he still got bodied.
Trunks 2.0 would be more starved for attention then normal trunks is considering how awful of a parent Goku is to his own sons.
Are we going to take away Vagetas kills on Napa, Kui, and Goldo?
I mean, he kinda had a crew.
Kenshin would have bodied him if he fought him fresh and without Shishio knowing ARnH
How does he lose to Kid Buu? He literally acts as a sandbag so goku can charge the spirit bing to kill his ass. That means that he WON the fight...
Oh damn, I forgot that guy. He worked damn near the whole squad.
flintstryker
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And was smart enough to use them, I mean what's the point of having a crew id you're gonna do everything yourself? Infact maybe I am remembering incorrectly but I think the main reason he formed the Juppongattana was to compensate for the fact that he couldn't fight at full potential for more than a few minutes anymore.
The true hero of earth.
To this day no one knows gohans "mystic" powerlevel.
STILLethal
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He takes mad Ls cause of all the innocent people hes killed at the beginning of DBZ, you dont get to be the bad guy at the beginning, turn good, and end up with Ws like Goku does
Blackleg-sanji1
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Now i greatly prefer vegeta but uh he technically didn't win that second fight with goku either. Goku was holding back
This is why Vegeta stays winning. The most beautiful thing about that relationship is how similar bulma and vegeta are. Both come from very powerful families (vegetas was literally royalty while bulmas was money), both have ego issues, both get pissed super fast, both are super emtional, and both are very passionate about their craft. One of the best better written romances in shonen imho.
In a world where you can erase peoples deaths you can. Hell ask piccolo or dragon ball super Majin Buu.
Both Hiei and Kurama had dark pasts as well.
STILLethal
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Ok then its his ego and personality that gets him Ls, hes changed somewhat in Super (only watched Black arc, best DB episodes since Buu saga imo)
Goku isn't a great parent, but he still comes ahead of Vegeta. Who never seems to do anything, but train. While Goku provides for his family(Vegeta is a gold digger too). And let's not forget the amount of times he put his ego ahead of his family.
Crippled Napa, Goldo, while he was busy fighting someone else. I'll give you Kui.
He beats someone in the Jinchu arc, I wouldn't really call his personality cocky either.
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Vegeta killed Perfect Cell. Gohan never would've gotten over the hump without Vegeta saving his ass.
Joey beat Yugi fair and square at the end of battle city
Gohan lost the use of his arm during that fight to save Vegeta. Vegeta was out after his arm was broken. Gohan defeated Perfect Cell with 1 arm. Hell, Goku defeated Piccolo with only one working limb and a softball sized hole in his chest.
Most of vegeta's kills/wins come from attacking them from behind. Don't find any of it impressive.
Jamie would aprove for sure.
Losses against women don't count since he refuses to fight
What? No he doesn't. He lost to Gin, Kalifa, Eneru, Bluno, and Kuma. I believe that's his entire loss record.
Piccolo is far more developed, same for Tien. Vegeta does not develop. He is evil. Then he is the evil product of an even worse even, robbed of any chance of a normal life. Then when he is free from his oppressor, he is just a cocky asshole. Then he is a cocky asshole with a family. Then he is a cocky asshole with a family that he abandons to become evil again. Then he finally takes the L.
He also developed a staggering amount of L's.
Guy can't even acknowledge himself as the king. We know who the real king is.
Vegeta should've taken this stance. He would've had a slightly better record.
Also lost to Pearl.
psynergylover
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got his girl stolen from a person of equal joberness....
also started watching super and he treats Bulma like shit(he does have some redeeming moments)....I'm still surprised how he ended up with her....must lay the pipe well.
Goku was holding back Super saiyan 3 during their majin fight so Vegeta's pride didn't get completely shattered.
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