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4Chan Rumor: The Last of Us Part 2 is rumored to be a story of revenge...

I get that, but it’s a little annoying they are going with a religious angle if true.
I’m just saying let’s say it was set in a Muslim country ( just using as a example you can insert any religion you choose )
they would never go along with a storyline like that.

Which only shows that if true, it is done in bad faith. They know they don't have to resort to that other "religion" because their objective is to put in a bad light white christian males.

This is done with ill intent.
 

hunthunt

Banned
First it was dear white people.

Now we have dear christians.


I believe the rumor and was totally expecting something like this.

What the hell some of you?

In the first game literally the girl is saved by 2 rude white straight man, even 2 black guys and a gay character are killed :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Some of you are kinda nutdont you?
 

Paracelsus

Member
What the hell some of you?

In the first game literally the girl is saved by 2 rude white straight man, even 2 black guys and a gay character are killed :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Some of you are kinda nutdont you?

No, they just have good memory.

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I don’t care about the lesbian storyline but the It grinds my gears seeing a religion specifically Christianity being used as the villain, would people be OK if they used an other religion?
I doubt they would use a different religion for example Muslims , if true instant no buy.
It's crazy if this this true regarding TLOU II targeting Christianity especially considering the director is Jewish himself.

Would seem odd to attack a religion for something that exists in all Abrahamic religions.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
*cough, cough* Have you played the first one? Brave girl killing bad white men.

Well most games are people killing people....

Did you play the first game?
Its 90% mostly a white guy killing post apocalyptic USA survivors and gangs and infected people.

Dont know what game you played mr offended by anything else lol.
and Im the least SJW or whatever you call them but the other side can be deluded.


Hope this isnt the true story but will play regardless, naughty dog ha
 

Jonsoncao

Banned
Is there any IRL homophobic Christian cult?

Just curious, my Christian friends are mostly pretty decent people, showing very inclusive attitude toward my pantheistic worshipping alt-dimension alien god who designed the physics of our current universe (which sounds much more heretic than homosexualism).
 

M1chl

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Well most games are people killing people....

Did you play the first game?
Its 90% mostly a white guy killing post apocalyptic USA survivors and gangs and infected people.

Dont know what game you played mr offended by anything else lol.
and Im the least SJW or whatever you call them but the other side can be deluded.


Hope this isnt the true story but will play regardless, naughty dog ha
I am not offended, I explained myself in here:

I know that was exaggerating, I am well aware of that. Back in 2013 I was pure soul, which does not suspect anything wrong with the story, however...looking back with current climate in mind, I can help but feeling sarcastic over some things.

2013 was a good year.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
pretty stupid if true but like i stated in previous post, i don't care about ND story and chara, i just want to bash heads with their gritty and violent combat system.

dina sound like an absolute cunt but i already sniffed that during the kissing scene when he bash the asian guy to favour ellie.

days gone has basically the same plot point with on of the main religious nut villain who thinks that sinners brought the zombie plague on earth, who played the game knows who i'm talking about.

can't wait for poeple to cheer for that stuff while days gone was bashed to no end with basically the same plot...
 
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LED Guy?

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Why? because I have no issue if it's true, and can completely see this being not only realistic irl, but even in any other medium (film, book etc)

So now because its In a game, its SJW zombie shit.

Grow up, it's a revenge story, and it's been done before and will be done again, even if the characters are gay.
The hypocrisy in your reply is so damning I don't know where to begin.

If it is a video game, then why are they doing it and why are they targeting a group?

Neil Druckmann would DISAGREE with what you said, he was writing and commentating about how "video games are ObJeCtiFyInG WoMeN" and how we need to fight back against it, but what did he do? He is using his agenda (or what he thinks is true) and doing it in video games (which you call "it doesn't matter they are video games"....), and he is doing the same hypocritical shit but in his politics and agenda, he didn't do anything right.

I'm sorry, but targeting a group like that would make the story feel unnatural and filled with unnecessary politics which would make the story bad, BUT I do not think the story will be like that, this 4Chan rumor is bogus, because it would laughable if it was like that.
 

docbot

Banned
D docbot Bartski Bartski

I'm going to assume you're just trolling. If Naughty Dog is doing the rumored story, then it's purposefully made to provoke this kind of reaction. People are reacting as expected, and you're like "LOL Y U mad?"

Honestly if true, it seems like an a story from an american point of view that is concerned with some of the fundamental forms of christianity existing in the states and the social issues it's causing in the country. And like all stories it's amped up to make a point and it's actually interesting to have such tales in video games now. People have to accept that with video games evolving, it's narratives will too and most great movies except die hard are about societal conflicts and the power dynamics of systems/people and not just Russian fucking shit up. And of course people who would not play this game just because it's a gay revenge tale are boring. And as a european, it's just plain out weird to read about all this SJW name calling, some guys really seem to have their head stuck up their butts. And yes, of course all of this is intended by Naughty Dogs.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Over the last 2 years I've gone from day one to meh, probably pick it up cheap. I never thought that would happen when I finished it in 2014. Why can't ellie just be a daughter instead of a vehicle for diversity showcasing.
Like all SP games, no rush. Buy it later for $30.

It's not like these kinds of games are sports or shooters where if you're competitive, you got to get in on day one to make sure you level up, learn the maps and rise up leaderboards with everyone else.

When I got Oblivion on 360, I got it about 6 months after it launched. Who cares. Even better, I bought it used for $40.
 
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Some you are just plain boring, a lesbian revenge knifing some gay hating fundamental christians sounds refreshing compared to just knifing some random bad guy that just happens to be evil. I mean some of you are rolling your eyes like every game out there is about lesbians brutally killing fundamental Christians.

I just watched a couple very popular docs on netflix and right now, the gay community doesnt really need another killer out there.
 

Azurro

Banned
Honestly if true, it seems like an a story from an american point of view that is concerned with some of the fundamental forms of christianity existing in the states and the social issues it's causing in the country. And like all stories it's amped up to make a point and it's actually interesting to have such tales in video games now. People have to accept that with video games evolving, it's narratives will too and most great movies except die hard are about societal conflicts and the power dynamics of systems/people and not just Russian fucking shit up. And of course people who would not play this game just because it's a gay revenge tale are boring. And as a european, it's just plain out weird to read about all this SJW name calling, some guys really seem to have their head stuck up their butts. And yes, of course all of this is intended by Naughty Dogs.

As a European? Not all european people think the same dude. Yes, of course there are a few crazy SJW countries like Sweden and also Germany (and it has to be, because of obvious reasons) but a lot of countries in South, Central and Eastern Europe have a very different way of thinking. Not everyone is a rainbow t shirt wearer man decrying the evils of white people.
 
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Arkam

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Making the main plot point about homophobia against ellie's romantic choice takes all the focus away from what makes last of us the last of us.

I totally agree and dont see this as likely true. But I do remember the I AM Legend movie taking the entire "I am Legend" out of the story..... so guess we will wait and see.
 
I remember similar bleating about The Punisher season 2 which turned out to be false.

Westboro baptist church
I honestly struggle to call them "Christian" as they reject most of Christian doctrine. They're more a group of crazy people wrapping themselves in religious trappings as some sort of shield. Even some of the most hardcore "Fundamentalist" groups have counter-protested them more than once.

EDIT: And, in fairness, that Punisher bit was actually due to comments by one of the actors about his own character. Whether that was just some weird internal headcanon or something cut from the show, idk, but the dude did say some weird stuff.
 
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Dabaus

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If you understand Drucker, this wouldn’t be a surprise at all. With that said I was never interested in last of us 2. I haven’t played the first one either.
 
That sounds a bit boring and generic, especially coming from the cannibals in the first game. Let's hope it's not something that boring. I wouldn't trust a 4chan rumour on this.
I don't mind a revenge story, but a revenge story against a cult of homophobes in a post-apocalyptic setting, seems like the most dull thing ever. Remove the zombies, put it in a Rambo 1 like context, then it's a good revenge story, asking questions on how society treats people, mental health, etc. A cult of homophobes would spend time going after the small percentage of gay people that might be found in various small communities spread around a big area? Nah, calling this rumour fake. Wouldn't even say something interesting about "the last of us", like the first game, so definitely calling fake. More so, focusing overly on her sexuality would just dull the game down further. Was the focus of TLoU, Joel's heterosexuality and Ellie's homosexuality? Nah, it was barely a part, mostly mentioned as context of their relations to people.
Such a contrast would be like going from Rambo 1 to Rambo 2. Rocky 1 to Rocky 2. Going into more typical campy ways.
 
if so, naughty dog can go fuck themselves.

im not religious but to conflate christians with a cult is bullshit. thats a group of people more moral than than most, even naughty dog employees. they are far from “homophobic”. Being against gay marriage isnt even a mainstream part of christianity anymore and was never “homophobic” to begin with. They, as a people, are more accepting of other people than any other group. In fact, i guarentee more christians would welcome gays into their homes than naughty dog employee would accept conservatives into their homes. Thats what really makes my blood boil if this is all true.

if they wanted to make a statement on religion and homophbia then why the hell isnt Ellie facing off against Islam? A religion that still throws gays off rooftops and punishes homosexuality with death in most nations that it occupies. But they wont, because they are cowards, thats it.
 
If you understand Drucker, this wouldn’t be a surprise at all. With that said I was never interested in last of us 2. I haven’t played the first one either.


He seems like the sort to adopt a black kid while posting about how white people cant identify with the trials and tribulations that minorities face.

who is this triggered dude?

oh, thats Muscle Glasses from Epic Meal Time.
 
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Dabaus

Banned
He seems like the sort to adopt a black kid while posting about how white people cant identify with the trials and tribulations that minorities face.



oh, thats Muscle Glasses from Epic Meal Time.
Something like that but there’s a little more going on here. That’s all ill say about it.
 

TheStruggler

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Is there any IRL homophobic Christian cult?

Just curious, my Christian friends are mostly pretty decent people, showing very inclusive attitude toward my pantheistic worshipping alt-dimension alien god who designed the physics of our current universe (which sounds much more heretic than homosexualism).
Theres was a woman in the states who wanted to defer her vote for buttigieg because after voting she found out he was gay.....
 

Keihart

Member
i'll bet on Ellie's friend/romantic interest, being a bait and switch.
Ellie is definetly going on a revenge rampage going by the trailers, but i think they are probably misleading to hide a twist.
 
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mortal

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Posters on 4chan have a raging hate boner for this game. So I'd be hard pressed to take any story rumor from there seriously. Although it is plausible, another corroborating source would be better.

People should already be skeptical of rumors posted on /V/ to begin with. Just because some legit news will occasionally get leaked on there doesn't negate that 90% of the rumors the get posted are bullshit. Even when leaks have validity, some details are often mixed up or end up being incorrect altogether.
 

TheStruggler

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if so, naughty dog can go fuck themselves.

im not religious but to conflate christians with a cult is bullshit. thats a group of people more moral than than most, even naughty dog employees. they are far from “homophobic”. Being against gay marriage isnt even a mainstream part of christianity anymore and was never “homophobic” to begin with. They, as a people, are more accepting of other people than any other group. In fact, i guarentee more christians would welcome gays into their homes than naughty dog employee would accept conservatives into their homes. Thats what really makes my blood boil if this is all true.

if they wanted to make a statement on religion and homophbia then why the hell isnt Ellie facing off against Islam? A religion that still throws gays off rooftops and punishes homosexuality with death in most nations that it occupies. But they wont, because they are cowards, thats it.
I mean we have had this in a ton of games eso after 9-11 where every brown person was evil and part of a terrorist organization apparently....just because it happens to a differebt group now poeple decide to call foul....I want consistency so Ill allow it. Evil takes the face of ant person regardless or race, culture, religion etc.
 
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Bartski

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D docbot Bartski Bartski

I'm going to assume you're just trolling. If Naughty Dog is doing the rumored story, then it's purposefully made to provoke this kind of reaction. People are reacting as expected, and you're like "LOL Y U mad?"

It's just kind of funny, on one hand, to see all the very well justified piss-taking at some attitudes omnipresent in far-left SJW-madness infested places, which often goes on here, like Kotaku, RE, etc, while at the same time here is a game about a gay revenge on Christians and people are losing their mind getting so worked up about it, calling this the reason to boycott the game.
Have you seen the gameplay? It looks FUCKING AMAZING. Why would such a plot ruin it so much for anyone is beyond me.
 

TheStruggler

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Yeah but that's a far cry from "lets hunt them all down and kill them even though we can barely keep ourselves alive". lol
This is a post apocalyptic game where society has collapsed. Its not unreasonable to think something like this could/would happen
 
4chan spoiled quite a few things over the years, like Verum Rex KH4 and Bloodborne, on top of some Pokemon and Smash leaks.
The timing is also accurate with the video leak and Druckmann soiling his pants.
Plus, the story is so stupid I can see it being exactly that, especially because of the ending.
They also claimed that at the end of DmC:Devil May Cry Dante and Vergil turn into dinosaurs and fight it out, and that Atreus wasn't Kratos's son.

These are just a few examples off the top of my head and I've been a 4chan reader since 2010 - 2011.

It's a hell hole that slowly makes you hate video games, anime or any other thing that you enjoy and went over there to discuss.
 

docbot

Banned
As a European? Not all european people think the same dude. Yes, of course there are a few crazy SJW countries like Sweden and also Germany (and it has to be, because of obvious reasons) but a lot of countries in South, Central and Eastern Europe have a very different way of thinking. Not everyone is a rainbow t shirt wearer man decrying the evils of white people.

Dunno for most Western European Countries like Spain, France, Germany, Austria, Sweden, Denmark, Portugal, etc it's just not a thing. It's not like everybody is wearing rainbow shirts and hating evil white people, they just don't get worked up like that about other peoples lives at large and the Catholic Church is just seems more symbolic here. It's different in Serbia and other Eastern European countries, but those are all still in shambles from multiple wars between each others and very poor, so not the best comparison. Of course there is still great social injustice in the world, you'd have to be blind not to see it. I don't even know what a crazy SJW Country is supposed to be? Like it's crazy if people feel free to do whatever the fuck they want, everybody has a pension, free healthcare and there's good public transportation. It's just the way things are here, so when I read this SJW stuff it's just puzzling from my perspective.
 
This is a post apocalyptic game where society has collapsed. Its not unreasonable to think something like this could/would happen
It actually is, especially that a group with priorities that misaligned would rise to the implied level of power and prominence.

A cult? Sure. A specifically homophobic and racist cult dedicated to hunting non-straight, non-white people in the wastelands? Not so much. If anything, they'd wanna figure out where they live and raid their supplies more'n that, whether they hate gay people or not.

TL;DR the scenario isn't, but the motivations and priorities are.

And I swear, if we have an arena full of clickers and/or bloaters where they're touted as "angels of judgment" or some shiz I will howl at how stupid that is. lmao
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
Fugly girl with a giant nose shaped like the prototype PS3 controller is the object of everyone's obsession? Lol get the fuck out of here.

I hate that this sounds entirely plausible. This is Cuckmann's game after all.
yu can see how scared ellie is when dina point that massive destruction weapon close to her face
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during an interview the actress who made the real life model for dina said that his role in the game was a bit on-the-nose, so yeah.
 
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cryogenic7

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Wouldn't surprise me. The reprobates are having their time now. Eternity awaits and it won't be pretty for them, so like any snake with their head cut off, they are violently writhing.
 
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