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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Sinthor

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Killer Sakoman said:
China is a threat to AAA western developers. It is fucking cheap.
Sony should invest there and make 10 AAA games for the cost of TLOU.
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Ugh. No...DON'T support China. I swear...horrific stuff going on in that country and nobody cares, because of that sweet $$. I'm pretty sure if the events of 1938-1945 were happening today people would be like 'well, Germany is a little rough on it's own people...but those trade agreements and getting cheap Mercedes cars! Wow!'
 
MasterCornholio

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Wraith Phantom said:
This suppose to be truth & tech breakdown thread. We just want correct data, Nobody cares what flag you wave.
What wagon your in. End of the day. You buy what you want to play. That's all that matters really. You first.

Once Again. Its good to see that now your on the same page as everyone else despite how long it took. There's great breakdowns in here. Read absorb ,learn. Its all good.
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I mean I understand the Sony side of it because Mark did a great explaining how the I/O works and the I/O complex diagram was a huge aid int he explanation.

But with Microsoft we had the speeds but then the Velocity Architecture marketing just added a ton of crap. Things like how 100GBs of days would be instantly available or how SFS would allow it to catch up to the PS5 (some people were saying that here). I just wanted to separate the BS from the truth. It's one of the reasons why I have the velocity architecture thread on ignore because there's alot of BS being made on the I/O systems.

So in short I understand Sonys I/O system pretty well but with all the marketing BS I had some questions about Microsoft's Velocity Architecture.
 
Gamerguy84

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The answer IMO and as far as I can see is the same. SWWS.

I lol when I see people demanding HW teardown from Sony and spouting wait for DF comparisons because 3rd party isnt where its at. 1st party, where there cannot be direct comparisons, are who show you how capable your box is. Most recently TLOU2 and GoT. I still pause in GoT to admire the view in HDR.

The vault of stuff they can pull out is huge. But they give us new IPs and mix a few older ones in and I love that strategy.

Another advantage is VR. Its a whole other console in its own right, the jump is as big as 2d to 3d games if not bigger.

So in short its content for Sony and value for MS.
 
Mr Moose

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Vae_Victis said:
So he says he signed an NDA, then he immediately goes out to reveal not only that Sony showed him a video (the fact itself, considering the insane level secrecy they have been maintaining so far, would most likely be covered in said NDA), but even exactly how long that video was (which would DEFINITELY be covered by the NDA).



Then 20 minutes later he tries to toot his own horn and hype it all up again. It's not a reply to somebody mind you, it's a completely new Tweet that adds nothing other than exaggerating his previous claim even more.



Then he realizes a lot of people are not going along with his story and call him a fraud, so he immediately throws a pity party for himself. Including a dramatic vow to never talk about PS5 again because people are so toxic. Immediately after having reiterated that he's going to post a video about PS5 as soon as the NDA terminates.







All the while he keeps spamming a sad pointless hashtag of himself. If you click on it, the second very thing you see after some gameplay segment is somebody calling him out for saying retarded shit in a past occasion.



What the fuck am I supposed to make of this? Laugh, cry, despair...?
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Why does he keep putting a . at the start of every Tweet? :messenger_hushed: It's triggering me for some reason.
 
MasterCornholio

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Suited up and ready to go
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I wonder when the party is going to start?

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Finem Orientis

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JonnyMP3

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MasterCornholio said:
I mean I understand the Sony side of it because Mark did a great explaining how the I/O works and the I/O complex diagram was a huge aid int he explanation.

But with Microsoft we had the speeds but then the Velocity Architecture marketing just added a ton of crap. Things like how 100GBs of days would be instantly available or how SFS would allow it to catch up to the PS5 (some people were saying that here). I just wanted to separate the BS from the truth. It's one of the reasons why I have the velocity architecture thread on ignore because there's alot of BS being made on the I/O systems.

So in short I understand Sonys I/O system pretty well but with all the marketing BS I had some questions about Microsoft's Velocity Architecture.
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If you have questions that are difficult to find straight answers for... That's 'marketing bullshit' right there!

That's how not to fall for it next time, okay? 👌
 
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Anyone seen xbox store going a bit crazy with relisting formerly delisted XBOX/360 games, allowing people to purchase and play them, but then MS refunding them and taking away access again. Also 360 purchases and GWG purchases disappearing from people's ready to install libraries?

MS are up to something.
Really hoping that Sony follow suit.
 
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Shmunter

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ksdixon said:
Anyone seen xbox store going a bit crazy with resisting formerly delisted XBOX/360 games, allowing people to purchase and play them, but then MS refunding them and taking away access again. Also 360 purchases and GWG purchases disappearing from people's ready to install libraries?

MS are up to something.
Really hoping that Sony follow suit.
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Phil’s drunk in the server room again
 
saintjules

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3liteDragon said:
www.gamesindustry.biz

PlayStation: Launching a console during a pandemic “is a massive challenge on every front”

PlayStation has debuted its first PlayStation 5 ad, which makes the pitch that the next generation is all about how gam…
www.gamesindustry.biz www.gamesindustry.biz
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We will launch this year -- that will happen -- and from my end we will absolutely make sure that we will bring all of the magic and all of the excitement of launches that we have had in the past.
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Eric Doubling down on release window for sure.
 
user1337

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"One I like is blocking the triggers when your weapon jams, to give to the player an immediate feedback even before the animation plays out, which prompts the player in a physical way that they have to unjam their gun." –Dinga Bakaba // Game Director, Deathloop

I have 1 issue with this. Rocket fricking league has given my trigger finger repetitive strain injury. Now if I have to press the trigger for long or harder than usual, my trigger finger starts to hurt a little. I can only image this is going to persist if the dualsense is going to force resistance into the trigger.

Will be worth it though..... no pain no gain right....RIGHT?!
 
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Sinthor

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If Demon's Souls is a launch title, I’ll jump on board day 1.
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If Demons Souls is a launch title, not only am I on board, but I'll make sure all the friends I play with online have a copy as well! That would be AMAZING. Although, I really hope they upgrade the movement and combat mechanics and it would be great if they changed around some of the content or even added some of the areas initially unfinished. The original Dark Souls remaster was great but it reminded me of the flaws in the combat. That HUGE hotbox and the "magical backstabs" that you could lock people in. Hilarious...as long as you're the one pulling them off! :)
 
Sinthor

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MasterCornholio said:
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Nice I just hope nothing gets delayed. Well I mean I know about Deathloop hopefully nothing else.
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I dunno.... I'm starting to think that the consoles themselves might be delayed. If we get into September with no pre-orders or price announcements....I don't think that would bode well.
 
sircaw

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Sinthor said:
If Demons Souls is a launch title, not only am I on board, but I'll make sure all the friends I play with online have a copy as well! That would be AMAZING. Although, I really hope they upgrade the movement and combat mechanics and it would be great if they changed around some of the content or even added some of the areas initially unfinished. The original Dark Souls remaster was great but it reminded me of the flaws in the combat. That HUGE hotbox and the "magical backstabs" that you could lock people in. Hilarious...as long as you're the one pulling them off! :)
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ArcaneNLSC

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MasterCornholio said:
I'd be more worried about Xbox getting delayed then PlayStation to be honest. Just basing this off the fact that we haven't really seen games running on the XSX yet.
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Also the fact their big first party titles are at least 2021-2023 releases the earliest

Fable - still hiring main lead roles like script writer and more
Hellblade 2 - waiting on Unreal 5 engine so fine tuning and final development suggests 2022 release
Halo - I suspect they'll either delay it one more time or will just wait 3 weeks before release to announce a release date
Forza - maybe the closet to release but still not likely until late 2021
Avowed - trying to remember if this is expected to be an Unreal 5 engine game too so if so again 2022+ release
 
MasterCornholio

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ArcaneNLSC said:
Also the fact their big first party titles are at least 2021-2023 releases the earliest

Fable - still hiring main lead roles like script writer and more
Hellblade 2 - waiting on Unreal 5 engine so fine tuning and final development suggests 2022 release
Halo - I suspect they'll either delay it one more time or will just wait 3 weeks before release to announce a release date
Forza - maybe the closet to release but still not likely until late 2021
Avowed - trying to remember if this is expected to be an Unreal 5 engine game too so if so again 2022+ release
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I'm not saying the hardware isn't ready but the games might not be. And you really can't launch a console with any working games even if you do have BC running on it.

We have to wait and see what happens though.
 
BGs

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Handy Fake said:
Is it good? That'll do us.
On a scale of 1-10, how good?
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sircaw said:
On a scale of 1-10 Is the PlayStation awesome, can't answer fuck it ok let's try another way.

On a scale from 1-10 am I the sexiest fish you have ever SEEN.
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Don't worry so much about "numbers". You will enjoy what is important. My opinion is no worse than before.

Vaztu Vaztu
 
SSfox

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Mr. PlayStation said:
Gawd I envy all these chinese game developers, they are so skilled at what they do and they are straight up making games based out of their rich culture and mythology. Why aren't we getting anything on Indian mythology, so much potential is there in Indian folktale and mythology :(
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Dhalsim in SF and Shiva in FF are cool indian inspired stuff imo

You remind me that i wanted long time ago to see an AC game happening in India because i wanted to climb and explore Taj Mahal.

But i don't want this much anymore since AC lost its appeal with last games, maybe a new IP around the subject would be nice, like GOT did with Japanese/mongolian history
 
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edotlee

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3liteDragon said:
www.gamesindustry.biz

PlayStation: Launching a console during a pandemic “is a massive challenge on every front”

PlayStation has debuted its first PlayStation 5 ad, which makes the pitch that the next generation is all about how gam…
www.gamesindustry.biz www.gamesindustry.biz
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"Once you get beyond all of the features of the PlayStation 5, which makes it a true next-generation product, It's about the content," Lempel concludes. "The content that will be in the launch window and beyond is incredibly exciting. I would say that this is the best line-up that we've ever seen in the history of PlayStation, between our Worldwide Studios groups and our partners from all the different publishers around the world. We've revealed some of that content, and naturally there will be more to come, but the way that the developers can engage with this platform, and create these new experiences with known IP as well as unknown IP, is incredibly exciting."
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Just show us, Sony!
 
Sinthor

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SSfox said:
Dhalsim in SF and Shiva in FF are cool indian inspired stuff imo

You remind me that i wanted long time ago to see an AC game happening in India because i wanted to climb and explore Taj Mahal.

But i don't want this much anymore since AC lost its appeal with last games, maybe a new IP around the subject would be nice, like GOT did with Japanese/mongolian history
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As far as story lines and mythology, I think I've seen enough of Greek and Roman for a while. I'd like to see some things based on real Norse mythology (kind of like Hellblade was), Middle-Eastern mythology would be cool, as would more of the Japanese...well, really lets just say Asian mythology in general. India would be a cool source of storylines as well. Hell, I even studied Hawaiian mythology for a while...you could do a lot of cool things with that as well! There's a TON of source material out in the world. I'd like to see a bit more of those areas explored. I get that Greek and Roman is more 'safe' perhaps....but I'd just like to see a bit more variety at this point before playing another "Olympian Gods" type of game.
 
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"Best lineup in the history of PlayStation." they say.

That's a BOLD ass claim. They better be holding back some killer titles, not including I would contest things like R&C, Spidey, GT7 and Demon's Souls would have to be launch or very short launch window titles to even make such a statement.


C'mon Sony, don't be a Phil "Suggestio Falci" Spencer. Back it up.
 
Sinthor

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Moridianae said:
"Best lineup in the history of PlayStation." they say.

That's a BOLD ass claim. They better be holding back some killer titles, not including I would contest things like R&C, Spidey, GT7 and Demon's Souls would have to be launch or very short launch window titles to even make such a statement.


C'mon Sony, don't be a Phil "Suggestio Falci" Spencer. Back it up.
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Well, from how things look I think it's safe to say that this at least WOULD have been the case, prior to Covid-19. Now? It's still possible if the games were really that close to being done, but it's also possible that EVERYTHING gets moved to "launch window" instead of "launch." Hopefully not further than that, but it's really anyone's guess at this point.
 
sircaw

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gamechanger87 said:
He was trolling the MS Flight Sim thread claiming that the game does nothing special, nitpicking that not every single spot in the WORLD looks perfect and that next gen didn't arrive with this game but with TLOU2 and GOT. They are more impressive than Flight.
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Have you seen Gamernyc 76 biceps, where the hell do you think they got the body frame for Abby from?

Can't blame him defending that.
 
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Sinthor said:
Well, from how things look I think it's safe to say that this at least WOULD have been the case, prior to Covid-19. Now? It's still possible if the games were really that close to being done, but it's also possible that EVERYTHING gets moved to "launch window" instead of "launch." Hopefully not further than that, but it's really anyone's guess at this point.
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If it *would* have been the case, I doubt such a statement would be made, considering how violently Microsoft fell onto the pavement.

That being said, exaggeration from a marketing guy isn't surprising.

Could be a legitimate statement, especially if they've been slinging all that money around as has been rumored.
 
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Moridianae said:
"Best lineup in the history of PlayStation." they say.

That's a BOLD ass claim. They better be holding back some killer titles, not including I would contest things like R&C, Spidey, GT7 and Demon's Souls would have to be launch or very short launch window titles to even make such a statement.


C'mon Sony, don't be a Phil "Suggestio Falci" Spencer. Back it up.
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Basically all the games you've mentioned should be in launch window (6 months) but due covid all bets are off. Still i think all those games will be released till end of 2021. And i don't see anything able to compete with that lineup from MS.
 
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