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Returnal - Combat | PS5

The voice acting is surprisingly good so far - the tone fits the atmosphere, and the lines are delivered on point. Art design nailed too and combat looks fresh. Level design and how it all comes together is what's left to judge at this point. Wanna see a boss/or mini-boss fight breakdown if the story is being kept tightly under wraps.

The stealth concern rush in the first page from the usual suspects is unfortunate and not subtle either. Don't be crying Sonygaf later when folks repay in kind for games on your preferred platform.
 
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marcincz

Member
I like Housemarque games, Resogun and Nex Machina was fantastic, but Returnal? I completely don't get it. 70E for next rogue-like game?
It seems like most of newest games = rogue-like or sandbox.
 

kingpotato

Ask me about my Stream Deck
Somehow had missed this trailer and thread. The more I see the more I like. Pretty hyped that this isn't a cross gen or cross platform title. No excuse not to focus on PS5 features and capabilities.

The only question is.... Do I go for the digital copy or physical edition?
 

renzolama

Member
Cmon guys, don't show a massive damage sponge with almost zero impact visibility as the first enemy encounter in your combat video. Sometimes you watch these AA studio video ads and have to wonder if they let Danny the intern produce/edit them, reminds me of the Godfall videos where they're just fighting 1-2 enemies at a time in tiny boxes for 30 seconds straight.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Idk... Seems like kinda just a shooter? Like twin stick type of shooter but with 3rd person.
Depth of a 20usd game. For sure not 60 or 70
 
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Tschumi

Member
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This is one of the games they built their reputation on. Called Resogun... It's an arcadey shooter in which the projectiles themselves are part of the gameplay. Shouldn't be surprised that Returnal is hitting the same notes.

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Very, very excited for this title.
 
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Not a fan of the visuals. Every gun seems to go overly sci-fi on the effects. Let me just have a shotgun to blow these aliens into gibs or a heavy LMG to lay down fire, not sparkle up the entire screen with special effects.
While your comment is focused on this game in particular, ive been complaining about this issue for like the last two generations; developers skimping on substance and instead making everything hella shiny/explosive in an attempt to overstimulate the player and 'wow' them has been an issue. It seems like a lot of creative bankruptcy.
 
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Why are people still acting like their decision not to buy the game is still due to the character at this point? It's a third person shooter and it's not like you're gonna see the character's face during most gameplay. And about cutscenes? Probably wont be much of that since it's a Housemarque game.

Talk about the underwhelming gameplay at the $70 pricepoint instead, because bitching about the character's face in a third person shooter is tired by this point. It's "But that jawline" all over again.
 

Tschumi

Member
A general message to everyone saying, in short, "the girl looks like a karen so i believe this game is poor"...

I'm not trying to establish a rep as a mouthy poster, but you guys are... Textbook shallow and really should have just not typed your post in the first place, for all the relevance it bears on the game or this thread.

I just can't wrap my head around someone who tries to make a thoughtful post out of "I'm butthurt that someone is trying to force an unattractive main character on me", neogaf deserves better reasoning than that.

As far as i can tell, valid criticism of the game at this stage:

- this is the first time that company is making this kind of game, so they may stuff it up
- any horror realism that might have been in this game seems to take a hit from the big bright resogun style projectiles.
- bullet sponge enemies might not translate from shmups very well.
- it's cyclical, difficult gameplay is derivative of From software et al, and maybe we've had enough of that (probably not though, because Hades)
- the gameplay doesn't seem to fit the weight of the story as has been presented.

Is saying the character is offensively unattractive valid? Shit no.

Peace =)
 

OnionSnake

Banned
The people screaming about the character looking like a "Karen" are making very lazy paint by the numbers responses. Disappointing from a site with repute such as NeoGAF. The $70 price tag for the developers past history is a much more worrying sign, personally.
 

saintjules

Member
Why are people still acting like their decision not to buy the game is still due to the character at this point? It's a third person shooter and it's not like you're gonna see the character's face during most gameplay. And about cutscenes? Probably wont be much of that since it's a Housemarque game.

Talk about the underwhelming gameplay at the $70 pricepoint instead, because bitching about the character's face in a third person shooter is tired by this point. It's "But that jawline" all over again.

Haha indeed. Reminds me a bit of people arguing about the Nemesis' nose in RE3 Remake.

 

Guilty_AI

Member
A general message to everyone saying, in short, "the girl looks like a karen so i believe this game is poor"...
Why are people still acting like their decision not to buy the game is still due to the character at this point?
Honest question. Who in this thread said they aren't gonna buy the game because of the main character? Most i've seen about her are some jokes here and there, otherwise its legit complaints like price, gameplay or overall visuals, the things you yourselves pointed out.
 
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Concern

Member
I was looking forward to this but wow this looks bland af. I'd rather another Resogun, Aliennation, or Nex Machina over this shit.

I hope its not $70 cuz its doa
 

kingpotato

Ask me about my Stream Deck
Nah, I'm out. Design a better player character and I might have given it a second look. But Meh gameplay and a Karen do not make for a fun time, sorry bois.

Honest question. Who in this thread said they aren't gonna buy the game because of the main character? Most i've seen about her are some jokes here and there, otherwise its legit complaints like price, gameplay or overall visuals, the things you yourselves pointed out.
If you go to other threads about this game there is a lot more of that talk.
 

Moogle11

Banned
Not a fan at all of roguelike titles.....they've overstayed their welcome, IMO
People like them and Hades just won a ton of awards. So I wouldn’t say they’ve overstayed their welcome by any means.

I’m tired of them and was never the biggest fan, but I can just accept they aren’t for me. I’m always drowning in games to play. Not next gen games mind you, but I’ll grab Kena next onto if that turns out good to have something to play on my PS5. I bought the new consoles knowing my PS5 would have some gaps the first year or two where I don’t use it much (just like PS4 did) and my XSX would mostly get used for better running/looking versions of last gen games on Gamespot for the first year or so.

I’m good with that and have tons I want to play, so I’m not going to begrudge this game that intitially looked promising to me for likely not being my cup of tea given the genre. House Marque is a solid studio and I hope it does well for them and that fans of the genre love it and enjoy having another new game top lay on their PS5s.
 

Concern

Member
Sony rarely, if ever, puts first party titles on plus. Maybe you’re thinking of ps now.

Bugsnax and Allstars??

If this game sales flop, it definitely will. I'd easily buy something like their other games or sequels to them. But this looks bland and more like a $20 title rather than $70.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Unfortunately it coming in a very bad month.....Monster Hunter Rise is going to consume most of my gaming time.
 

wisozp

Neo Member
Looking forward to this game, looking very busy at times and hopefully HM can nail the controls down.
Hoping it run at 120 fps at some point.
 

Pedro Motta

Member
A general message to everyone saying, in short, "the girl looks like a karen so i believe this game is poor"...

I'm not trying to establish a rep as a mouthy poster, but you guys are... Textbook shallow and really should have just not typed your post in the first place, for all the relevance it bears on the game or this thread.

I just can't wrap my head around someone who tries to make a thoughtful post out of "I'm butthurt that someone is trying to force an unattractive main character on me", neogaf deserves better reasoning than that.

As far as i can tell, valid criticism of the game at this stage:

- this is the first time that company is making this kind of game, so they may stuff it up
- any horror realism that might have been in this game seems to take a hit from the big bright resogun style projectiles.
- bullet sponge enemies might not translate from shmups very well.
- it's cyclical, difficult gameplay is derivative of From software et al, and maybe we've had enough of that (probably not though, because Hades)
- the gameplay doesn't seem to fit the weight of the story as has been presented.

Is saying the character is offensively unattractive valid? Shit no.

Peace =)
Oh look, a brain in this forum.
 

kingpotato

Ask me about my Stream Deck
Bugsnax and Allstars??

If this game sales flop, it definitely will. I'd easily buy something like their other games or sequels to them. But this looks bland and more like a $20 title rather than $70.
Bugsnax is a timed console exclusive and is already on PC, but otherwise I think you're totally right about it potentially being offered on plus. It would still be a 12~18 month wait I imagine. Just look at the ps+ collection on ps5 for what Sony is willing to give away lol.
 

Tschumi

Member
Honest question. Who in this thread said they aren't gonna buy the game because of the main character?
I guess we'd have to be willfully blind to say that hasn't been said.. anyway i didn't want to tag anyone so i didn't. I think a post 4 or 5 above mine was one, but yeah I'm not gonna get any further into it than that ^_^v
 
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Guilty_AI

Member
I guess we'd have to be willfully blind to say that hasn't been said.. anyway i didn't want to tag anyone so i didn't. I think a post 4 or 5 above mine was one, but yeah I'm not gonna get any further into it than that ^_^v
I honest to god haven't seen anyone saying this as their main complaint. If someone does, its alongside stuff like seemingly boring gameplay, uninteresting visuals, etc. You don't need to tag anyone, just quote what they said.

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Nah, I'm out. Design a better player character and I might have given it a second look. But Meh gameplay and a Karen do not make for a fun time, sorry bois.
There it is. Not that hard is it? That said, he also complained about gameplay, and he was the single person i've seen putting focus on the MC.
 
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Tschumi

Member
I honest to god haven't seen anyone saying this as their main complaint. If someone does, its alongside stuff like seemingly boring gameplay, uninteresting visuals, etc. You don't need to tag anyone, just quote what they said.
Check 4 of 5 posts above my original one
 

FranXico

Member
So many people shitting on this when HM regularly makes some of the best controlling games (great visuals and audio too) out there
I mean, the reason there's so many trolls shitting on this game has nothing to do with the game itself, it should be obvious.
 
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Concern

Member
I mean, the reason there's so many trolls shitting on this game has nothing to do with the game itself, it should be obvious.


Omg nooooss.... another conspiracy against Sony. You guys are embarrassing yourselves. Gameplay looks bland and not worth $70. Stop crying conspiracy over everything.
 

Pedro Motta

Member
Omg nooooss.... another conspiracy against Sony. You guys are embarrassing yourselves. Gameplay looks bland and not worth $70. Stop crying conspiracy over everything.
One thing about Housemarque games is that gameplay is never bland. So you're wrong.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
They haven't let me down yet so I'm sure this will play great. I can't say if I'll get it on day one but I almost never get games on day one anyway.
 

CAB_Life

Member
The more we see the worse it looks. Much better PS exclusives out and in the pipeline to be excited about. The first God of War trailer and no one will remember this exists.
 
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